To me, all this "time glitch" thing is just a way of people not admitting that they were wrong. :P
To me, all this "time glitch" thing is just a way of people not admitting that they were wrong. :P
One theory based on principles of quantum mechanics holds that people who experience the Mandela Effect may have "slid" between parallel realities (à la the science fiction TV series Sliders). After growing up in a universe where it was "Berenstein" Bears, for example, some people one day woke up to find themselves in an alternate universe with "Berenstain" Bears.
Another theory posits that unbeknownst to ourselves, we all exist within something resembling a "holodeck" (a device in the world of the Star Trek series that creates a virtual reality experience for recreational purposes). On this model, apparent memory glitches are actually software glitches that cause inconsistencies in our perception of reality. Can you prove this isn't the case?
There's nothing inherently wrong with this sort of speculation — it's fun, in fact — but it yields no practical explanation or testable hypotheses. Nor is it necessary. We don't have to conduct thought experiments about the ultimate nature of reality to explain why we misremember things — or even why we misremember some of the same things the same way.
To me, all this "time glitch" thing is just a way of people not admitting that they were wrong. :P
Sorry Colin, but I disagree. Ghosts don't pay bus fares. This sounds more like a time glitch or something....
What do you think Z?
I have a brief anecdote that happened many years ago, but still disturbs me. Call me crazy if you like. I know what happened in my life.
I trace these timeline issues back to the night Obama was elected - November 5, 2008. This was the night things started to go all wonky.
My best friend, overnight, went from being a very nice, understanding person to a completely nasty, hostile cynic who clearly despised me. For the record, I did not vote in that election as I did not like either candidate, so it wasn't politics. It was like she was a completely different person.
The following month a photograph taken in the driveway of my home appeared on my cellphone. It showed a yellow extension cord laying on the driveway. There was nothing else in the picture. I did not take it. Where did it come from?
I forgot about it and when I remembered it, roughly a month later, I looked for it and it was gone.
Third, my house was brand new. I hadn't yet cleaned out the line from the dryer to the roof. I left for a week. When I came back, the dryer hose had been cut and duct-taped back together? Who the hell was in my house, or, was this an alternative timeline?
Fourth, one evening I'd made a quick run to the store. When I returned I found a juice glass containing a white, milky liquid floating in a clear liquid on my kitchen counter. It had been placed on a circular pink hotpad that I'd knitted. Who put it there? WTF was it?
This notion has guided my thoughts for well over a year but I can't find any trace of it.
Without going into too much scientific explanation, all matter has a frequency, or an electro magnetic “pulse.” Schuman Resonance measures that of earth. When this resonance was first measured in the 1950’s, the earth’s frequency was 7.8 hertz. Apparently recently it has been recorded at 12 hertz. This means that a 24 hour day now feels as if it’s just 16 hours.
Is time speeding up? | Life Energy Designs
www.lifeenergysolutions.com/blog/is-time-speeding-up/
Einstein proved that it isn't, that time is in fact speeding up. ... confirms this, he says that the rotation of the Earth is slowing down, and time is speeding up.
Schumann Resonance And The Time Speeding Up Phenomenon - In5D
in5d.com/schumann-resonance-and-the-time-speeding-up-phenomenon/
Jul 24, 2016 - Compiled by Gregg Prescott, M.S.. Editor, In5D.com. Time is actually speeding up (or collapsing). For thousands of years the Schumann .
I thought I was going crazy in my old age, but maybe not! Hhhmmm
Zorgon, is that the same Exxon we stopped at that night on the way over to see John? and that was when, in 2013? If it is the same store, that metal contraption was not there.
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On 1/31/2017, for the first time in recorded history, the Schumann Resonance has reached frequencies of 36+.
This is a big deal. In 2014, it was considered anomalous for the frequency to have risen from it's usual 7.83 frequency to somewhere in the 15-25 levels.
Here is what it looked like in 2014: http://imgur.com/a/KNaw2
And an article discussing how strange this was back in 2014: http://www.trinfinity8.com/why-is-earths-schumann-resonance-accelerating/
Now it is spiking at well over 30 for the past two days.
Proof: http://imgur.com/a/KUnqq
Site where this info is from (where you can track in real time): https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=auto&tl=en&js=y&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&u=http%3A%2F%2Fsosrff.tsu.ru%2F&edit-text=
Then click on "Schumann resonance" on the left. The site needs to be translated.
According to Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schumann_resonances), the Schumann Resonance "are a set of spectrum peaks in the extremely low frequency (ELF) portion of the Earth's electromagnetic field spectrum. Schumann resonances are global electromagnetic resonances, generated and excited by lightning discharges in the cavity formed by the Earth's surface and the ionosphere."
It has long been suspected that human consciousness can impact the magnetic field and create disturbances in it, particularly during moments of high anxiety, tension and passion: http://sedonanomalies.weebly.com/schumann-resonance.html
According to the above article, "As human beings we have extraordinary potentials we have hardly begun to study much less understand. Creative gifts, intuitions, and talents that are unpredictable or emergent may become stabilized in generations to come. Hopefully, we can learn to understand both our emergence from an essentially electromagnetic environment and facilitate our potential for healing, growth and non-local communication."
Many have been reporting the feeling that time has been speeding up. Could the increased frequencies have something to do with this?
People on YouTube are actively discussing these anomalies: https://www. youtube.com/watch?v=urF_u3DpWw0
For more info on global consciousness and the "science of interconnectivity," here's another good resource: https://www.heartmath.org/research/global-coherence/
It includes a link to the Global Consciousness Project (http://global-mind.org/gcpdot/), which seems to correlate to the increase in the electromagnetic frequencies in the past 48 hours.
As the previously cited article (http://www.trinfinity8.com/why-is-earths-schumann-resonance-accelerating/) states:
"For many years this resonance frequency has hovered at a steady 7.83 Hz with only slight variations. In June 2014 that apparently changed. Monitors at the Russian Space Observing System showed a sudden spike in activity to around 8.5 Hz. Since then, they have recorded days where the Schumann accelerated as fast as 16.5 Hz. (The graph is usually blue with some green, and no white.) At first they thought their equipment was malfunctioning, but later learned the data was accurate. Everyone was asking, what’s causing this intermittent spiking activity?"
"Is the Earth’s frequency speeding up? Since the Schumann frequency is said to be “in tune” with the human brain’s alpha and theta states, this acceleration may be why it often feels like time has sped up and events and changes in our life are happening more rapidly."
"These emerging resonances are naturally correlated to human brainwave activity. So this means, we are changing. Many years ago I was trained in EEG Neurofeedback, so I looked at what these accelerated frequencies might be telling us about human evolutionary change. A 7.83 Hz frequency is an alpha/theta state. Relaxed, yet dreamy—sort of a neutral idling state waiting for something to happen. A 8.5 – 16.5 Hz frequency moves one out of the theta range into more of a full calmer alpha state with faster more alert beta frequencies starting to appear. (This correlates with slowly waking up cognitively). Since the Schumann Resonance has had sudden spikes between 12 – 16.5 Hz (see pic’s white areas), I found this even more interesting. In Neurofeedback, 12-15 Hz is called Sensory-Motor Rhythm frequency (SMR). It is an ideal state of “awakened calm.” Our thought processes are clearer and more focused, yet we are still “in the flow” or “in the know.” In other words, Mother Earth is shifting her vibrational frequency and perhaps so are we. This may be one of many signs that we are AWAKENING."
"Scientist’s report that the Earth’s magnetic field, which can affect the Schumann Resonance, has been slowly weakening for the past 2,000 years and even more so in the last few years. No one really knows why. I was told by a wise old sage from India that the magnetic field of Earth was put in place by the Ancient Ones to block our primordial memories of our true heritage. This was so that souls could learn from the experience of free-will unhampered by memories of the past. He claimed that the magnetic field changes are now loosening those memory blocks and we are raising our consciousness to greater truth. The veil is lifting. The blinders are coming off. If true, it raises even more intriguing questions."
"Whatever is happening, it’s clear that this acceleration may make you feel more tired, exhausted, dizzy, depressed, and even strange as you raise your own frequencies to be more “in tune” with the New Earth. Adaptation is not always an easy process, but keep in mind it’s all part of your own unique AWAKENING."
What are your thoughts on what will happen if we maintain spikes of 30+?
2/2/17 update: we are now in our 3rd straight day of 30+ resonance, and it seems like it is getting more constant / stronger! http://imgur.com/a/UPAVh
https://www.reddit.com/r/Retconned/comments/5rezz5/humans_are_waking_up_for_first_time_in_recorded/
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Some people are more susceptible to time's fluid nature. You seem to have a more linear mindset, from what I've read in your posts. That may account for your lack of bizarre experiences in that particular area. Just a thought.Either that or I just accept that I may be wrong and don't say that the rest of the universe changed around me instead. ;)
So this is NOT a case of mistaken memory... they simply were not built, nor even planned in my previous time line... while in THIS one they were operational in 2012That's why I don't like that "explanation", as, like the "aliens did it", it's just a kind of "deus ex machina" to solve a problem we do not understand. In this case of "shifting timelines" or "Mandella effect" or whatever we want to call it, to me, it looks like a variation of the "facebook mentality" that makes people want to be the centre of attentions, particularly by implying that everything changed around them but they are still the same.
Berenstain Bears??? WTF! They were the stein bears that I remember.
Either that or I just accept that I may be wrong and don't say that the rest of the universe changed around me instead. ;)
to me, it looks like a variation of the "facebook mentality" that makes people want to be the centre of attentions, particularly by implying that everything changed around them but they are still the same.
Also, saying that "I don't have a horse in this race" is not exactly true, when people say that those that have not experienced something like this are, somehow, on a "lower league", like when people say that they "know" things because they are "awaken" or something like that. It's the same as saying that they are special and the others are not.
I'm sure everyone here on this site has seen the thread's on ATS about Past Live's. If not check out Past Live's on Youtube. I mention that in relation to this thread because anyone could be running their own subroutine without even knowing. Yeah I am saying it's quite possible that we are not directing our program... we still have means to act within it though! Kinda a no bad no good.. it is what is kinda thing!
Well that may work for you but it is sort of an Ostrich reaction :DIt's not, it's one of the possibilities, one that people that talk about the "Mandella effect" or whatever they may call it appear not to accept.
Why would you accept that you MAY be wrong, when you can access an immense knowledge base to help discover that you may NOT be wrong and there really is something going on?Because those two things are not mutually exclusive. The fact that I accept that I may be wrong doesn't mean that I don't look for other possibilities, it means that I don't deny that possibility.
No I disagree. If the conversation is about ORANGES and what they taste like, only those who have eaten an orange have "a horse in that race" Those who have never eaten an orange can onlt add what they THINK but cannot offer and real input.That's not what was said, what was said was that it seems like I have a "more linear mindset", so if people are talking about me, how is that not my race?
Armap, Joe Sixpack has a tendency to muddle thru his day at his sucky job, glad to go home, staring at the ground until he walks in to his safe haven, content to listen to the dribble on tv while drinking a cold beer and not really interested in anything but trying to relax...And all that is irrelevant to what I was saying. :)
Then there is that small percentage of us peeps that are very curious about most things in general and actually pay attention to the world around them; and for some of us there will be some event that not only causes our ears to perk up but will push the envelope to the point that you have to look for answers, have to find a rhyme or reason for what just happened...
some put forth minimal effort and it fades quickly for them; for some of us, there is enough evidence or an event of such magnitude that there is no going back, for you are past the point of no return...
I hit that point just about 40 years ago when myself, my boss, and my best friend watched Darth Vader's superstar destroyer fly over us and then zoom off into the night; the problem was, when we saw what we did, I don't think Star Wars had been released yet and I know damn well that none of us had any clue that anything like that existed outside of a Hollywood movie; so yeah, there was no going back to the mundane world for me after that...
Shasta is being kind. I'm not. You are no gymnast, ArMaP. You are a locomotive welded to the rails.You don't know me. :)
You don't know me. :)
Then maybe you should consider dispensing with the old rancid.Sorry, I don't understand what you mean. ???
Sorry, I don't understand what you mean. ???
Expand your horizons. Embrace the surreal.I do, just because I think one theory is little likely to be the real explanation doesn't meant that I am looking for a common explanation, although I always look for those first, as they are often disregarded.
Dali did. It made him a household name and no one thought he was crazy.Not really, many people did thought he was crazy.
Interesting, the times my phone chooses to malfunction. It crashed during my first attempt to reply to your message, something it has never done before.Twice in this thread, when I came back and refreshed the page, my post appeared to move to the previous page. Did it really? I can't really say, as I wasn't looking for references to see what would happen, but it did look like it. :)
Welcome to the Twilight Zone.The original black and white version from 1959 or the colour version from 1985? ;)
There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio,
Than are dreamt of in your philosophy.
Regarding your statement on Dali, no one with any brains thought he was crackers.Unfortunately, many artists are considered crazy by the ignorant because they don't do things like they are supposed to do.
There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio,True, but I think we need an updated version: :)
Than are dreamt of in your philosophy.
There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio,
Than are dreamt of in your philosophy, religion and science.
I was thinking about that very thing. There was a young boy that could remember his past life very clearly. It consumed him so much that he talked his mother into taking him to his old old home which was on an island not too far from where they lived.
Once they arrived there was many things that were exactly like he described. However there were some things that did not fit. Parallel universes would help explain the differences.
http://topdocumentaryfilms.com/the-boy-who-lived-before/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Wh0OsVtdeE
20 Examples Of The Mandela Effect That’ll Make You Believe You’re In A Parallel Universe
Good to be talking to you Soma! It has been a while.
So .... What happened to the matrix? What caused the glitch?
The Dejavu Effect Should be considered here as well.. as I'm sure it's all interlinked somehow! :)There was a time when I had relatively frequent deja vu, so I decided to look at them with more care, and I started noticing small differences between those occasions and the previous, so while they were very similar situations they weren't exactly the same.
Retired aerospace engineer, William Tompkins, has just given his most detailed account yet about the operations of secret space programs on the September 27 episode of Cosmic Disclosure. Many of Tompkins’ revelations corroborate the earlier testimony of the show’s primary whistleblower, Corey Goode, who first publicly came forward in late 2014.http://exopolitics.org/aerospace-engineer-reveals-operational-details-of-secret-space-programs/ (http://exopolitics.org/aerospace-engineer-reveals-operational-details-of-secret-space-programs/)
Previously, Tompkins has described in his book, Selected by Extraterrestrials, and in subsequent interviews, his involvement in two space programs. First came his assignment in intelligence operations on a German/Nazi led secret space program during the World War II, much of which was relocated to Antarctica. This space program evolved into what Goode later described as the “Dark Fleet.”
After the War, Tompkins became directly involved in the development of a U.S. Navy secret space program called “Solar Warden,” where he provided the early draft designs for kilometers long spacecraft and non-terrestrial bases, while working at the Douglas Aircraft Company from 1951 to 1963. Solar Warden, according to Tompkins, became operational in the early 1980s.
Tompkins’s role in these space programs is supported by a number of documents provided in Selected by Extraterrestrials, and others provided in a March 2016 interview. In addition, FOIA documents have just been made available (to be described in an upcoming article), which confirm key details about Tompkins involvement in a Navy led espionage program aimed at infiltration of Nazi antigravity research projects during World War II.
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Minutes of Meeting discussing Special Projects Committee. Click to Enlarge
Tompkins’ revelations about the current operations of secret space programs derive from two periods in his life. First is his time at the helm of the Rogue Valley (Medford), Oregon chapter of the U.S. Navy League from 1985 to 1999. During this period, he was given briefings about operations of secret space programs and extraterrestrial life, and shared some of this information through a “Special Projects Committee”; with retired Navy, Marine and USAF officers and their children.
Corroboration for Tompkins’ statements about the Navy League Special Projects Committee comes both from related documents and two retired Navy officers who confirmed key aspects of his testimony. Furthermore, Tompkins says that Admiral Hugh Webster, who ran the U.S. Navy League chapter in San Diego and was an executive officer for it nationally, was initially briefed about the Navy’s secret space program by Tompkins in 1985. Webster subsequently began a similar operation in San Diego, and became part of the Navy’s covert operations.
The second period in which Tompkins learned about the operational details of the Navy’s secret space program began in 2000, when he moved to San Diego, giving him more opportunities to work directly with Webster. It was Admiral Webster who gave Tompkins permission to write his autobiography and reveal all he knew about the Navy’s secret space program.
Tompkins has further disclosed that he is a participant in the Navy’s annual “West” meetings in San Diego, where leading aerospace companies come together to share their research and development findings. Among the purposes of these meetings is the goal of finding the latest technologies that may be of use for the Navy’s secret space program.
Tompkins says that he has attended all of these Navy West meetings since the year 2000, and plans to attend again in 2017 because he still has clearance to be present at classified meetings. Tompkins is currently 93, with a sharp mind, excellent memory and still physically healthy. It would be fair to say that he is considered to be a “wise elder” among those running current operations with the Navy’s secret space program.
Given Tompkins’ background, and continuing involvement with the Navy’s Solar Warden program, his statements about its current operations bear special significance.
These are some of the highlights of what he revealed during his Gaia TV interview.
Thousands, thousands, not just a few, thousands of people have joined the Navy here in the United States. They joined the Space Navy. They signed up for a 20-year tour. So these folks, men and women, were given a lot of examinations and a lot of information on what they were going to need.
Many of them went to the Moon, our Moon, and facilities there and got checked out and organized and established where is the best place they’re going to go, what their criteria is going to be, what major area they’re going to develop, like what class in the university. And then they get sent to a Mars facility for a short time.
Tompkins’ comments here are especially noteworthy. They corroborate the testimony of Goode, who asserted that there are thousands of personnel involved in the Navy’s secret space program. He and another alleged whistleblower, Randy Cramer, spoke of an operations center on the Moon called Lunar Operations Command, and both claim they were taken there in 1987 for their formal inductions.
lunar-operations-command
During his interview, Tompkins describes how secret space program personnel are assigned after the induction:
And then they get assigned to a specific base. And they work for a short time in the base before they’re assigned a naval cruiser, or a naval attack vehicle, or even a naval spacecraft carrier, which are one, two, and four kilometer long class. And we have eight of those battle groups out there. So there’s plenty of room for new people to come aboard….
The above statement corroborates what Goode claims he underwent after his induction at Lunar Operations Center. He was assigned to the research vessel, the Arnold Sommerfeld, where he spent six years performing a number of science and exploratory missions in the solar system.
Tompkins next corroborates Goode and Cramer’s claims, along with a third whistleblower, Michael Relfe, about what happened at the end of their 20 and back programs:
So at the end of the 20 years, they have an option for another 20 years. They could go for another 20 years. Or they have the option to come back to Earth where they were born and where they entered the Navy.
And then they make this decision they want to come back. So they age regress. They’re now 20 years older than when they joined the Space Navy, okay? And so they take several weeks or several months, and they reverse their age back to 21 when they joined the Navy….
And now, during that several weeks returning, their minds, not painfully, but their minds are played with to where 90.99 [likely meant to say 99.99 percent] of their memory for the last 20 years out in space is removed.
In the book, Insiders Reveal Secret Space Programs and Extraterrestrial Alliances, a chapter is devoted to a comparative study of the testimonies of Goode, Cramer and Relfe. Tompkins’ testimony adds a significant level of credibility to what each of these individuals had to say about how they were treated at the end of their secret space program 20 year tours of duty.
Before the close of the interview, Tompkins revealed his knowledge about a corporate run space program that emerged to rival the Navy’s Solar Warden program:
But the corporations, at the same time they were doing the military mission programs, they were doing other programs which could possibly allow them to nullify the space programs of the military, like Solar Warden.
And these people, then, utilizing all the advances in space systems, military wise, developed the capability to move off the planet and mine materials on other planets in the solar system and/or continue on out into the galaxy through the 12 closest stars, Alpha Centauri being the first, and mining or extracting materials, or whatever, and making money.
This same group of top corporate people of all these companies that are doing the jobs, that they are getting paid for, were paralleling the space missions for industrialization – making money… We’ve got corporate operations operating parallel to missions to solar system planets and other stars’ planets, doing the same thing.
Tompkins testimony here corroborates what Goode revealed in early 2015; that there is a corporate run space program he called the Interplanetary Corporate Conglomerate. Previously, in April 2014, Cramer claims he was assigned to a Mars military base from 1987 to 2004, to protect five corporate run colonies there he described as the Mars Colony Corporation. Similarly, Relfe says that during his time on Mars, from 1976 to 1996, he was part of a military operation to protect Mars colonies.
Tour Flyer SSPsBill Tompkins’ detailed knowledge of current operations of the Navy’s secret space program, a corporate run program, and his willingness to now relate this information is a significant development for all who have been closely following his testimony. It is a major scoop for Cosmic Disclosure that Tompkins chose to reveal his knowledge there first, and it certainly helps substantiate the earlier testimony of Goode and others concerning Solar Warden and parallel secret space program operations.
[Note: To watch William Tompkins on Cosmic Disclosure, click here. For transcript click here.]
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There was a time when I had relatively frequent deja vu, so I decided to look at them with more care, and I started noticing small differences between those occasions and the previous, so while they were very similar situations they weren't exactly the same.That is quite interesting mate!
I haven't had a real deja vu since then.
They also did one in either the new twilight zone series or the outer limits, just watched it this summer right after my surgery, can't remember which program it was now; but this lady scientist had developed a time portal and was going back in time and selectively murdering serial killers and rapists,etc., and it showed the paradox the cops were having to try to deal with as history and their leads in the case disappeared in front of their eyes...
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Hey good to see you Seeker! ;D
Do you ever recall seeing a Twilight Zone episode in the 1980's which was about what happens between time as we know it?
Unfortunately, many artists are considered crazy by the ignorant because they don't do things like they are supposed to do.I know several artists and I'd say they are borderline crazy. Genius and madness are close bedfellows.
I never watched it either, but the name has always been "Sex and the city", as I used to see it advertised.I remember seeing adverts for it, and I do believe it was for sex and, not sex in...
I dont know guys; I will just post this little yt.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l7BjyMBf1SM
Calling it the mandella Effeect because one person named it that based on her experience is all well and good BUT it doesn't help us find the CAUSE of this Mandella EffectCalling it anything else doesn't help either.
I suppose though it willmake it harder to research, because all the people with no life :P will jump in and claim it happened to them and soon it will be as bad as the UFO stuff is todayToo late for that, it already happened. :)
Proof is in the pudding, right? Going to have to dig on this one; but I am also willing to accept that it might be my memory of this one that is flawed, because, as far as I can remember, I never watched the program, just remembered the ads for it; I just don't watch much television... always been too busy working until now, and I still don't watch but very little ;DThat's exactly the situation I'm in, the difference is that I remember both the original title ("sex and the city") and the Portuguese version ("sexo e a cidade"), which is a direct translation of "sex and the city".
On Facebook, Zorgon and I participated in a convo about the Mandela Effect recently.I saw that. :)
I saw that. :)
One question: is your son an Iron Man fan or a general comics fan?
That was my first thought, that a child had appropriated it.That's not what I'm thinking. :)
That's not what I'm thinking. :)
And the plot thickens..........
With wiki, it is "Sex and the City" -
I, too, remember it being "Sex In the City".
Okay. So what are you thinking?I'm thinking that, if Sgt.Rocknroll's son is not a Iron Man or comics fan then it may have easily forgotten about giving the book to his father, so the "missing" book was only a result of his son forgetting about it and Sgt.Rocknroll not seeing it. Sgt.Rocknroll's recollection was correct in this case, as he was right in remembering that he had the book.
The MEMORY is strong... but the change effects everything physicalThe memory is strong but may be wrong. :)
Question, bear with me on this -All electric machines or mechanical machines with magnets and metal parts.
What kinds of machines generate electromagnetic fields?
I saw that. :)
One question: is your son an Iron Man fan or a general comics fan?
Question, bear with me on this -
What kinds of machines generate electromagnetic fields?
Me also, :o. Weird
The memory is strong but may be wrong. :)
One question WHY do you think it may be wrong?Because it's possible. :)
To me it makes more sense that when so many people have so many clear memories that it becomes time to search for a real answer, not just assume they are having faulty memories, are delusional or are crazy...In this "Mandela effect" case, what we see just a yes/no situation. When we ask someone "what was the name of that show, was it 'sex and the city' or 'sex in the city'?" we are already presenting them the possible answers, limiting their answers (if they don't really remember). Some people, when faced with two choices always choose the last one they heard, so someone like that, when hearing the above question would choose the second choice, 'sex in the city'. Also, many people (or most, I haven't really make a statistic, even informal), when asking something to other people present the choice they think are right in the end, maybe because they know (even without noticing) that other people tend to choose the last option.
Most scientific discoveries have happened because people dare to look beyond what is the accepted answer Scientists told the Wright Brothers that flying is not posible :PSaying that the universe changed around them is not really looking for an answer, as they are choosing something completely unproven. Also, accepting unproven theories while disregarding known facts is not the best way of making scientific discoveries, as science should be based on facts.
Sounds like the majority of scientists and especially archeologists in general ::)
PS: if scientists at the time told the Wright brothers that flying was not possible then they didn't know about the previous work from other people, in which the Wright brothers based their work, like Otto Lilienthal, so those scientists were the ones ignoring the facts.
It would appear to me that the Mandela Effect has 2 "in common " things going for it. 1. It is personal 2. It is random.It appears to be a tad bit of both, Phedre;from my own personal experiences and beliefs, we do travel together in "soul" groups, and it does appear that when something wiggles in the continuum, we experience the same change; now the thing is, everything we have noticed that catches our attention is a periphery event not tied directly to us,and I wonder just what we would notice if something directly affecting us did occur, or if we could notice it; paradox at work would probably also be pulled out of our memory
My Mandela Experience(sorry) was Mandela him self, I read and heard on the radio, he had died in prison. It did make an impression on me. My utter Shock was when it was announced he was the leader of South Africa. It made me feel like I was falling from a great height. After awhile, I chalked it up to my feeble mind. Then as I did my forum browsing. The same experience started to pop up a very times, from others. It made me feel better, that I was not alone, with the "Experience", but still one with no explanation? :o
Is it an Experience attached to the person, or the "event" or both? It seems to be an "occurrence " enough to have it's own label, Mandela Effect, even without explanation.
Here is another one that I know wasn't right, six people in the JFK assassination car.I have to disagree on that one, Biggles; 2 secret service agents, John and Missus Connally, Jackie and John Kennedy; I have a copy of the original film footage squirreled back and have watched it for far too many times...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=STItwSqMydk
I have to disagree on that one, Biggles; 2 secret service agents, John and Missus Connally, Jackie and John Kennedy; I have a copy of the original film footage squirreled back and have watched it for far too many times...That's why I said some posts back that it was already too late to research this, now everybody's excuse is the "Mandela effect".
What about JCPenny? Here are two links which show both. This is really getting weird.
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This is really getting complex. Why would the Simpson's be immune from the effects?????? :oWhat do you mean by that? ???
What do you mean by that? ???
In the Simpsons the line remains "Luke, I am your Father"
Why would the Simpsons have it the way a lot of us remember? Is it immune to the Mandella effects?
The Simpsons aren't saying that the line in Star Wars was "Luke, I am your father", they are only using that line.
Well for example.
They are saying that in Star Wars that the line was "Luke, I am your Father". But now is "No, I am your Father"
In the Simpsons the line remains "Luke, I am your Father"
Why would the Simpsons have it the way a lot of us remember?Why not? It could be for two reasons:
Is it immune to the Mandella effects?The Mandela effect is thinking that things changed, if they are using the line that doesn't appear on the movie then they are affected by the Mandela effect, not immune. If they were immune they would say the text as it appears in the movie.
I hear that the girls are friendly on Altair IV...Mandela effect again, the girls aren't friendly on Altair IV. :P
For me it is '"Luke, I am your father" and I saw those films so many times the main lines are etched on my grey matterFor me has always been "No, I am your father". Just look at the rest of the conversation, "No, I am your father" makes more sense than "Luke, I am your father", as it's an answer to what Luke just said.
Hate to tell you this, Armap, but I just pulled up that scene from Star Wars on the dvd and it's Luke, I am your father 8)Well, just post it, so we can see it. :)
and what about Radio Shack? I distinctly remembering them going bankrupt and announcing their stores were going to be history...but everywhere I look I see Radio Shack stores wide open and thriving??? ???
Well, just post it, so we can see it. :)I am sure there is a way to do that, but I don't have a clue how ???
I am sure there is a way to do that, but I don't have a clue how ???If you have a camera you can record it. :)
Just had this one sent to me. This is for all you Christians out there
"THE LION SHALL LAY DOWN WITH THE LAMB"
In my world everyone knows that scripture Christian or not, BUT..
It doesn't exist :o
Now the odd thing about this one is that it is still around on the internet so perhaps this one hasn't fully slipped yet.
SAYINGS NOT FOUND IN SCRIPTURE
Isaiah 11:6
The wolf shall dwell with the lamb, and the leopard shall lie down with the young goat, and the calf and the lion and the fattened calf together; and a little child shall lead them.
Isaiah 65:25
"The wolf and the lamb shall graze together; the lion shall eat straw like the ox, and dust shall be the serpent's food. They shall not hurt or destroy in all my holy mountain," says the Lord.
So WTF? I never EVER heard the WOLF and the lamb
I need a bottle of RUM before my head explodes
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Read the book and then you too will know what it really says. ;D
So, I am watching the show below for a second time on youtube, but this time all the words are written backwards instead of forwards like it was a few weeks ago, not happy Jan.Did you watch the video in that YouTube channel? That video was clearly mirrored, while the one below wasn't.
So it appears that some of these changes are happening at different times and effecting different peopleThere are no changes, only in the minds of a few people that aren't capable of admitting that they may be wrong. :P
There are no changes, only in the minds of a few people that aren't capable of admitting that they may be wrong. :P
There are no changes, only in the minds of a few people that aren't capable of admitting that they may be wrong. :P
Could be two overlapping timelines or merging timelines changing things, who knows, but they have changed without a doubt.
mandelafreakout 2 points 3 months ago
About a month ago, it was Chuck E. Cheese in my reality. I remember Chuck E Cheese's from when I was a kid though. I can't believe how many people are from the "It's-always-been-Cheese" reality.
https://www.reddit.com/r/MandelaEffect/comments/5acscq/possible_chuck_e_cheese_residue/
TIME TRAVELLERS could account for such minor chages
Didn't think of that, it probably was mirrored, but it was Sex in the City, I can find a yt with a guy showing his girlfriend's Sex in the City memorabilia she bought, all show Sex In The City.The problem with things like that is that's how those people that make fake merchandise work. Making something branded "Sex in the City", while very similar to the original, it's not the same, so they can argue that they are not infringing any copyright. Several years ago a guy that worked with me bought a wireless phone, from what looked like a known brand, Panasonic, but only after the guy that sold him the phone was gone did we noticed that it said "Panscanic".
There ARE changes but the minds of some people aren't capable of seeing them or admitting they might be wrong :PThat's the problem with things like this, we can keep on this forever without reaching any conclusion.
I don't usually quote Snopes :P but this is a good article from an independent writer and not really a debunk and it fits the point
The Berenstain/Berenstein Bears
No single example of the Mandela Effect has generated more online buzz than that of the children's book series and animated TV show The Berenstain Bears. Quite a few people who grew up with the series, it turns out, remember the title being The Berenstein Bears, with the name ending in "ein" instead of "ain" (with some even going to go so far as to maintain that the fictional bears' surname was changed along the way to make it "less Jewish"):
A page on Broome's web site cites a number of testimonials:
I too clearly remember it as ‘Berenstein’ even though I never read the books. Why would anyone change that? Seems irrelevant.
Between the nearly perfectly conducting terrestrial surface and ionosphere, a resonating cavity is formed. Broadband electromagnetic impulses, like those from lightning flashes, fill this cavity, and create globally the so-called Schumann resonances at frequencies 5 – 50 Hz (Schumann, 1952; Bliokh et al., 1980; Sentman, 1987).
ELF is used by the US Navy to communicate with submerged submarines. The extremely high electrical conductivity of seawater shields submarines from most electromagnetic communications.
Signals in the ELF frequency range, however, can penetrate much more deeply.
The low transmission rate of most ELF communications limits their use as communications channels; generally an ELF signal serves to request that a submarine surface and initiate some other form of contact.
One of the difficulties posed when broadcasting in the ELF frequency range is antenna size. In order to transmit internationally using ELF frequencies, an extremely large antenna is required.
The US maintains two sites, in Wisconsin and Michigan. Both sites use long power lines as antennae, in multiple strands ranging from 14 to 28 miles long. Considerable amounts of power are generated and emitted by ELF, and there have been some concerns over the possible ecological impact of such signals
The electromagnetic field (EMF) is composed of two related vectorial fields, the electric field and the magnetic field. This means that the vectors (E and B) that characterize the field each have a value defined at each point of space and time. If only E, the electric field, is nonzero and is constant in time, the field is said to be an electrostatic field.
The electromagnetic field generates a force F on a charged particle, given by the Lorentz equation where q is the charge of the particle, and v is its current velocity (expressed as a vector.) The behavior of electromagnetic fields can be described with Maxwell’s equations, and their quantum basis by quantum electrodynamics.
Scientists believe that the Schumann resonance is due to the space between the surface of the Earth and the ionosphere acting as a resonant cavity that is then excited by energy from lightning strikes.
A resonant cavity is a cavity in which standing waves can be built up. It is used in lasers. The lowest-frequency (and highest-intensity) mode of the Schumann resonance is at a frequency of approximately 7.8 Hz.
The phenomenon is named after W. O. Schumann, who predicted this phenomenon in the 1950s, and helped detect its existence.
The ionosphere is the part of the atmosphere that is ionized by solar radiation, and too tenuous to be cooled by contact with other air.
It forms the inner edge of the magnetosphere and has practical importance because it reflects radio waves to distant places on Earth.
The ionosphere is generally recognized to have three, sometimes four layers.
The D layer is the innermost layer, and mostly absorbs radio waves.
The E layer is the middle layer.
The F layer combines into one layer at night, but in sunlight divides into two layers, the F1 and F2.
The F layers are responsible for most skywave propagation of radio, and are thickest and most reflective of radio on the side of the Earth facing the sun.
Scientists explore the structure of the ionosphere by bouncing radio waves of different frequencies from it, and using special receivers to detect how the reflected waves have changed from the transmitted waves.
Schumann Resonance & Zero Point
Changes are occurring on the physical, emotions, mental, and spiritual levels.
Ancient prophecies predicted it. Indigenous traditions honor it. Changes within the Earth are affecting your sleep patterns, relationships, the ability to regulate your immune system and your perception of time.
You are living a process of initiation that was demonstrated over 2,000 years ago, preparing you to accept tremendous change within your body. That change is happening now.
Migraine headaches, tiredness, electrical sensations in the limbs, and cramps in the muscles networks Flu like symptoms intense dreams.
These could all be caused by the changes taking place on Earth now.
The human body will become more sensitive as a result of the new vibrations. The resonance of Earth (Schumann Resonance) has been 7.8Hz for thousands of years.
Since 1980 it has risen to over 12Hz.
This means that 16 hours now equate to a 24 hour day.
Time appears to be speeding up!
Gregg Braden tells of the scientific proof of the Earth passing through the Photon Belt and the slowing of the Earth’s rotation.
At the same time there is an increase in the resonant frequency of the Earth (Schumann Resonance).
When the Earth stops its rotation and the resonance frequency reaches 13 cycles we will be at a zero point magnetic field.
The Earth could be stopped, and in 2 or 3 days it will start turning again in the opposite direction.
This will produce a reversal in the magnetic fields around the earth and so forth.
Geophysical Condition no.1:
Earth’s Rising Base Frequency:
Earth’s background base frequency, or “heartbeat” , called Schumann Resonance, or SR – is rising dramatically.
Though it varies among geographical regions, for decades the overall measurement was 7.8 cycles per second.
This was once thought to be a constant; global military communications developed on this frequency.
Recent reports set the rate at over 11 cycles,and climbing. Science doesn’t know why, or what to make of it.
Gregg Braden found data collected by Norwegian and Russian researchers on this; it’s not widely reported in the U.S. (The only reference to SR to be found in the Seattle Library reference section, is tied to the weather.
Science acknowledges SR as a sensitive indicator of temperature variations and worldwide weather conditions. Braden believes the fluctuating SR may be a factor in the severe storms, floods, and weather of recent years).
Geophysical Condition no.2: Earth’s Diminishing Magnetic Field
While earth’s “pulse” rate is rising, her magnetic field strength, on the other hand, is declining.
According to Professor Bannerjee of the University of New Mexico, the field has lost up to half its intensity in the last 4,000 years.
Because a forerunner of magnetic polar reversals is this field strength, scientists believe that another reversal is due. They also believe that because these cyclical shifts are associated with reversals, Earth’s geological record indicating magnetic reversals also marks previous shifts in history.
Within the enormous time scale represented, there were quite a few of them.
Schumann Resonance
The Earth behaves like an enormous electric circuit. The atmosphere is actually a weak conductor and if there were no sources of charge, its existing electric charge would diffuse away in about 10 minutes.
There is a ‘cavity ‘defined by the surface of the Earth and the inner edge of the ionosphere 55 kilometers up.
At any moment, the total charge residing in this cavity is 500,000 Coulombs. There is a vertical current flow between the ground and the ionosphere of 1 – 3 x 10^-12 Amperes per square meter.
The resistance of the atmosphere is 200 Ohms. The voltage potential is 200,000 Volts. There are about 1000 lightning storms at any given moment worldwide.
Each produces .5 to 1 Ampere and these collectively account for the measured current flow in the Earth’s ‘electromagnetic’ cavity.
The Schumann Resonances are quasi standing wave electromagnetic waves that exist in this cavity. Like waves on a spring, they are not present all the time, but have to be ‘excited’ to be observed. They are not caused by anything internal to the Earth, its crust or its core.
They seem to be related to electrical activity in the atmosphere, particularly during times of intense lightning activity. They occur at several frequencies between 6 and 50 cycles per second; specifically 7.8, 14, 20, 26, 33, 39 and 45 Hertz, with a daily variation of about +/- 0 .5 Hertz. So long as the properties of Earth’s electromagnetic cavity remains about the same, these frequencies remain the same.
Presumably there is somechange due to the solar sunspot cycle as the Earth’s ionosphere changes in response to the 11-year cycle of solar activity.
Schumann resonances are most easily seen between 2000 and 2200 UT.
Given that the earth’s atmosphere carries a charge, a current and a voltage, it is not surprising to find such electromagnetic waves.
The resonant properties of this terrestrial cavity were first predicted by the German physicist W. O. Schumann between 1952 and 1957, and first detected by Schumann and Konig in 1954.
The first spectral representation of this phenomenon was prepared by Balser and Wagner in 1960.
Much of the research in the last 20 years has been conducted by the Department of the Navy who investigate Extremely Low Frequency communication with submarines.
Time will appear to speed up as we approach Zero Point. A 24 hour day will seem to about 16 hours or less.
Remember the Schumann Resonance (or “heart beat” of Mother Earth) has been 7.8 cycles for thousands of years, but has been rising since 1980.
It is at about 12 cycles at present. It stops at 13 cycles.
Zero Point or the Shift of the Ages has been predicted by ancient peoples for thousands of years. There have been many shifts including the one that always occurs every 13,000 years at each half ofthe 26,000 year, Procession of the Equinox.
Zero Point or a flip of the magnetic poles could happen.
It is said that after Zero Point the Sun will rise in the west (see also the signs of the end of time in Islam): and set in the east. Past occurances of this change have been found in ancient records
"back to the Future" covered it nicely...
You go back in time and cause one small change and it has ripples trhough time
The old concept You go back in time and kill your father before you are born, do you cease to exist? If so you would not be born to go back in time and kill your father
In BTTF they simply made the changes create a NEW timeline...
So IF there are time travellers in the future, it is possible we are seeing effects of this
The SMALL stuff like the Berenstein/Berenstain Bears appear to be experienced by many if not most people... while the major events seem to affect only a few
As Seeker said we seem to travel in groups... some things change for everyone, some for a small group and some just for the individual.
IF we are going to assume that in the future they will have Time Travel, then this is a very good proof of it. We already have the Looking Glass technolgy that allows us to see POSSIBLE futures
Everything we do in life leads to different possible futures. Say you are walking down an alley... at the end you can turn right or left or turn around and go back the way you came... That gives three possible futures... YOU may not be important to Time at that moment but lets say if you turned left you ran into hodlums and were killed... So what ever you would have done in life will not happen
Star Trek did a good one on that with McCoy going back into the past and saved a woman from being killed. That made their whole way of life vanish No more starship...
It is one of the first "Stargates" :D
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7uKWpWkcpdM
I am sending this to Z and he can decide to post it or not.. I don’t think I am ready to be on line yet.. too many things to deal with at this
“time.”.so sorry to make him work any more than he does but felt since he called, I did need to answer but otter is fading in and out right now..time glitch ?..something else?..no answer yet but working on it
ok so I was taped on the shoulder to find the link to pegasus (cause I had deleted it) and I get tapped on the shoulder a lot
you can skip this part but it explains a bit of what is happening to me now
side note one
the reason I left was the continuing comments about folks having to do with politics and specifically the last election.. I have always thought my skin was pretty thick and really didn’t care for either contestant but..(and this relates to the time glitch thing).. somehow these comments have touched a spot I did not recognize and that rippled into emotions that hadn’t previously been affected...me or at least one of me (ties to time glitch) has always held a firm belief in not taking anything (especially on line) personally and there I was..upset continually and ready to toss words back and forth... and I did toss a few (I found that in itself as very upsetting..what the hell is going on here )...so rather than continuing with the word tossing, which is totally NON productive, I left and then when I thought I was over it (HAH) I came back and read a comment that hit me again so I erased the link to here..
then the tap on the shoulder.. and really finding the link is easy so this morning I came back to this thread with the idea of reading only it and nothing else.. we’ll see how that goes cause curiosity good or bad is still a strong thing I live with.
another part you can skip
side note two
background on my life up to here most of the older posters know ..I am not a tech person and don’t really do movies or sci fi stuff but have followed the lines of individual study in to the old practices...and in answering some of the things that have happened to me and around me have found myself in some unusual places looking for answers..
I have always considered myself strongly connected to the earth and nature
and besides this time glitch thing has happened all my life but is now becoming more intense and different
now onto the time glitch thing..
my belief at this time is that the barrier between dimensions (? or whatever label you would like) is fading in and out and if you have been a researcher into the not- obvious you are susceptible to the diminishing of whatever the hell separates these things
I have always believed you need to qualify your terms so you aren’t comparing apples vs oranges in discussion but I have no idea of what to call this except dimensions..so sorry about that.. I like to be specific and sometimes that leads me to too many words – so dimensions it is for now
when I was young and would ask my mom about this or that happening she would look puzzled and then answer with..”you must have dreamt that”..so for a long time I just figured that’s how you got info and believed everyone did it..
as I got to be in the library and book stores I would look for substance on that dream info.. that led down some very strange roads and a lifetime of observations and trying to figure it out...
mostly I have gone with the idea that folks are divided into groups
1.those content with blocking what is happening
2. those who say.. what the hell.. and then forget
3. those who say ...what the hell.. and go looking
I think it has always been there all along but only a few have noticed....why?....
well that goes to another thread altogether about if we reincarnate and if we come with requests to see.. or if we just get hit on the head and curiosity bites you ..pick whatever you like but I’m going back to the dimension thing
what Z has described about the forest and his trip and things that weren’t there.. I have had happen too, actually it’s happened most of my life
when I was doing endurance completions we (me and my riding buddy) would often come back to camp and ask about a certain piece of beautiful trail.. only to be looked at like we should be disqualified for going off the marked trail..sigh and then coming home my riding buddy would say what are you talking about when I brought it up..
one trail out of jamestown ny was 55 miles and we rode back into the Allegheny national Forrest in pa.
one section affected me so strongly that I found it in a trail book and hubby and I drove back and hiked it.. that trail was closed years ago
but you can still find it in the old hiking books
.. however I was watching a public tv program about geology and a penn state guy was talking about that very spot and a particular rock formation that we hiked to.. and how they had somehow decided it was part of the original gaia... I have never been able to re-find that program after searching penn state info and on line info more times than I care to admit.. it just isn’t there...
that’s only one of many examples of strangeness..... I know it all happened..I still ask myself why the hell I needed to find that rock formation and still have no answer
lately things are getting even a different weird..in that MORE folk are noticing this stuff.. so that tells me that one of two things is occurring
1. the separation of dimensions is fading
or
2. folks are not able to ignore what has always been there
ah ha.. to me the bigger question is WHY is this now more obvious....
if
time is getting shorter..(double meaning on that.. lol)
if the poles (magnetic) are shifting
if the frequencies are amping up
if the earth is about to enter it’s next phase –
if we are aware.. what should we do besides observe?
so glad to have you guys join me on this trip but what now..I think we need to do more than just notice the facts of it
I think it’s way too long now..but I could go on
be nice to each other..
formerly otter now no label that fits
if you want to use it
here’s a pic of the rock formation it’s actually on the cover of this hiking book from 1990
https://www.amazon.com/Allegheny-National-Forest-Hiking-Guide/dp/B01DAE3YF0
Allegheny Group
Allegheny National Forest Hiking Guide
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It is obviously the wolf and lamb. Lions live on hot plains and sheep live in the colder hills like wolves. :P ::)
That is a very STUPID reply... Of COURSE reading it would show what it says NOW... not what it said BEFORE and all you did was evade the question... and we don't know what YOU recall... Wolf or Lion
Silly Lemming
That is the biggest problem with this effect... those from THIS current timeline would not see anything amiss and those anyone that says they recall it as being different would be treated as if they were crazy, delusional or have a faulty memory.
But as Biggles just pointed out the effect is getting stronger and more people are becoming aware that something is going on...
Sorry, the original post got lost for a bit, this was what else I had offered.
"IF" people would actually READ THE "most Holey Writing" BOOK, they might just get some of the quotes correct.
Like, "Peace on earth, good will towards men."
REALITY
"Peace on earth towards men of good will."
Read it and stop quoting "religious dogma", , , , ,please!
geeeee I hope that don't offend someone's poor sensitive ears ::) :P ;D
The point is... What We read there today is different from what We read yesteryear.One correction: what we read there today is different from what We remember reading yesteryear. :)
One correction: what we read there today is different from what We remember reading yesteryear. :)
The fact is that there's no way of proving that we read something in the past.
BTW, did You read My experiences with the thing We are calling "the Mandela effect?"I did.
How would You explain what I have experienced? Seeing "The Berenstein Bears" and specifically noting the pronunciation of the "ei" a hundred and more times, and learning to spell "fruit" from the box of Fruit Loops...Bad memories or bad information. How can we know that when you looked at "Berenstain" you didn't read "Berenstein"? We all do that from time to time, reading something that isn't there, like the Panascanic phone my colleague bought.
I did.
Bad memories or bad information. How can we know that when you looked at "Berenstain" you didn't read "Berenstein"? We all do that from time to time, reading something that isn't there, like the Panascanic phone my colleague bought.
To me, this whole "Mandela effect" thing is more a social experiment than anything else. :)
ROFL! Yeah, for years I just "misread" and misHEARD.It's possible.
And what about My memory of learning to spell "fruit?"I didn't comment on that because I didn't understand what you wrote.
It's possible.
I didn't comment on that because I didn't understand what you wrote.
You didn't grasp about "Fruit Loops" vs what it now "has always been," "Froot Loops?"When I first read, no, I didn't understand it, but now that I reread it I understand it. It may be a case of false memories.
When I first read, no, I didn't understand it, but now that I reread it I understand it. It may be a case of false memories.
“And he showed me a pure river of water of life, clear as crystal, proceeding out of the throne of God and of the Lamb. In the midst of the street of it, and on either side of the river, was there the tree of life, which bare twelve manner of fruits, and yielded her fruit every month: and the leaves of the tree were for the healing of the nations”
How many remember The Home Depot, being just Home Depot?
It still is Home Depot in the province of Quebec. They have a law there where names and advertising have to be prominantly in french. Leaving the "THE" off may be to have it closer to being french.
http://news.nationalpost.com/news/canada/quebec-cracks-down-on-english-brand-names-forces-prominent-french-signage-to-be-included
Anyways. for me, seeing "The" looks strange and not the way I remember.
perhaps some of this stuff can explain the time glitches..
perhaps the gravitation waves are affecting us as if we were on a big blanket and it is being shaken.....rolling us around
or maybe we are going thur portals and not realizing what is happening during the experience
hummm 2012 gets a mention - maybe the world we knew did end and we are version 0.?
the penny thing and the bear thing.. just lazy writting that went viral..with the internet it's out and broadcast before anyone does a fact check..so that doesn't impress me much
on the pic i can see a Jcpenn and that's it.. so if there's more the pic needs to be centered better
there is someone who used to be here (and i think still is) who has a pic of a portal with a being(?) emerging.. hopefully that person will step forward and share
and guess what it was taken in texas..sorry i can't remember where
on the tinkerbell.. hey they change ads don't ya know....how much of what your parents told you they saw have you seen.. things do change..
remember the whole story of space that disney did way back (bet ya don't but i posted it on here somewhere in a different conversation)
i'm, not trying to knock any of the theories..just narrow down the possibilities of what is actually happening
you know.. what Arthur Conan Doyle said
Once you eliminate the impossible, whatever remains, no matter how improbable, must be the truth.
Tinkerbell is still there, it varies from movie to movie.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=noHhkzBmhRE
Otter, all you have to do, with the image on screen, is hold control and push minus one time
Thanks Irene
i just went to my profile to see if i could change anything but no improvement on the size of the text box
hey you don't recall the portal thing cause it wasn't on here it was a personal conversation between me and that person
what i was saying is that the pic is cut off on my screen and that's why i can't see anymore of if.. in you link i could see half of the Y
the text area of the thread is not as large as it used to be and i don't know if it is me or what..
i also remember tinkerbell every sunday cause that was main entertainment..
but not everything has been saved.. why else would they have the way back machine stuff?
and the fact that not everything is on line is another reason to keep your books and letters and stuff..
info is being funneled
so there :P
ok i must be really bad at following directions cause control and minus made everything even smaller
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This is close to what I remember. Perhaps there is a difference between Wonderful World Of Disney and just Disney Movies.
ok this is interesting
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As proof of the great lengths the human brain will go to confirm that our perceptions are valid, we are here now relying on quantum physics to ponder the possibility of parallel realities in which the Berenstain Bears were actually spelled Berenstein Bears, rather than admit the possibility of our brains making a common misperception. LOL
A good friend of mine on Facebook from the old days of the Guild has changed When she first contacted me again after years of absence she was really into the conspiracy stuff and had found me via the work on ATS and wrote me asking if I was the 'King Zorgon' of the past... Now she is ridiculing everything and I will likely have to unfriend her as it is not constructive.
Here is another one. I don't even know what it is!!Seeing the Chile flag in the picture I thought it could be from that occasion in which several miners got stuck on a mine. An image search lead me to this article (http://web.archive.org/web/20100825043408/http://www.straitstimes.com/BreakingNews/World/Story/STIStory_570595.html).
(http://i562.photobucket.com/albums/ss64/Micjer_2009/miners1.jpg) (http://s562.photobucket.com/user/Micjer_2009/media/miners1.jpg.html)
Thanks for that image, seeker, since the beginning that I was thinking that there was an older (maybe) version of the sundial that was like that. :)Cool 8) no gear on the spindle :P
Here's a brightened version (taken from a bigger version of that image).
(http://www.thelivingmoon.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10002/Sun_dial.jpg)
Just thinking about my response. That wouldn't explain the Mandela effect though because it seemed to have started prior to 2012.
Geesh
yeah Mic i think it's been happening before that but something is making us more aware...and if we are more aware what should we do with that?
do we want the control to jump time lines or dimensions at will?
or stop it from happening without conscent?
or did we give consent somewhere else?..lol
maybe we are really going to the new earth ?.. the 5th dimension?...where it is all different in application but we are awake and aware ?
is it the end of a journey or just a short stop in one?
my eyes are crossed with all the reading..enough for today
thanks for thinking about it and answering
you too Irene..even though i think it's more than the presidential election stuff
with the last two i think they are only being used as catalysts for folk to look more closely at what we want on many levels
sigh
Irene
i understood that and agree - yeah someone is pushing some buttons
but i wanted to clarify that i wasn't talking politics here but i do think the last two "choices" (and i use that term very lightly) have been to shake us up..
look at how polarized we as citizens have become..
i am stepping back (at least i think i am) to look at how they have been used to make us confirm or change how we deal with others.
and i am asking the question
what's the point?
is it to align us with something? shake us into groups ?
or to play smoke and mirrors and keep our attention from something?
i have sooooooooooo many questions ::)
I'm with you, micjer, on the CERN bandwagon. Why does it have to be so big? It's a particle accelerator.Because it's easier to accelerate particles close to the speed of light by using a large radius trajectory.
Because it's easier to accelerate particles close to the speed of light by using a large radius trajectory.
I'm not talking about the track so much as the machine itself. Why does it absolutely dwarf people? WTH are they really trying to do there?I suppose it's all related to the energy involved, the precision needed to collide particles and the sensitivity of all the sensors used to detect the particles resulting from the collisions.
Why would they want to create a black hole knowing how dangerous those things are? Hubris is what that is. Hubris and stupidity.They do not want to create a black hole.
I suppose it's all related to the energy involved, the precision needed to collide particles and the sensitivity of all the sensors used to detect the particles resulting from the collisions.
They do not want to create a black hole.
They've said they can inadvertently create one. I'm not real comfortable with that.Here is some food for thought, mostly my thoughts and ponderings on this current realm of thought...
Here is some food for thought, mostly my thoughts and ponderings on this current realm of thought...
From statements made from some of us, it appears that Zorgon, myself, Sarge Rock, and Micjer are from the same shadow or timeline, since we are all remembering the same sequential events, i.e. J C Penny, not Penney, "Luke" instead of "no", Berenstein instead of stain, etc....as are quite a few people; now we have Delores Cannon and others promoting that one earth and timeline was destroyed, leading to some of us being injected seamlessly into this timeline;
there is also the possibility that 2 timelines are converging and becoming one; now whether they will stay as one or separate again remains to be seen; the question is, if two are merging to form one, did those of us from line a have another us in line b, and if so, what happened to them?
Perhaps our earth did succumb to cataclysm and we jumped to this one to finish our work; did our corresponding selves jump to the other and experience the cataclysm?
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Seeker
"Nothing, not even light, escapes a black hole. Let's make one in Switzerland." :o :o :o
They've said they can inadvertently create one. I'm not real comfortable with that.Did they really say that? Or did someone else say it?
What I remember -
Berenstein
"Beautiful day in the neighborhood."
"You are my son, Luke."
"Sex In the City"
Fruit Loops
Mandela croaking recently. The phony interpreter is a reminder.
JC Penney
"If you build it, they will come."
Jif
I also remember, in 2011, that a voice repeatedly told me I'd come home. If you'll recall, I traced my first memorable timeline issue to 2008.
I'm not buying into the whole Mandela Effect thing. Well almost not...lol
Xrays escape black holes.
There are also 2 event horizons, not 1.
Here's My thoughts... WHY is it only recently that anyOne has these experiences? No One was discussing things changing that I met back in 2000 or even 2005 - long after the web was available to compare notes.I think that's because people would not think so much of themselves, so they thought they were misremembering things and moved on to more important things. In recent years we have witnessing the rising of the "me", with people thinking that they are more important than anything else, and that everyone is interested in knowing what they had for lunch or what movie they are going to watch. :)
The fact that in each of these cases there are virtually always two camps is significant. "Bad memory" would yield many more points of view, I would suggest.That's what I said on a previous post, these cases are always presented as one of two possibilities, so in the case of the location of New Zealand people are presented with only two possibilities, being north or east of Australia.
I also remember, in 2011, that a voice repeatedly told me I'd come home. If you'll recall, I traced my first memorable timeline issue to 2008.
I'm no expert, so thank you.
What is it about X-rays that makes them immune to the forces of a black hole?
The X-rays come from hot gas orbiting around the black hole in an accretion disk. As the gas orbits, magnetic stresses cause it to lose energy and angular momentum, thus spiralling slowly in towards the black hole. The orbital energy is transformed into thermal energy, heating up the gas to millions of degrees, so it then emits blackbody radiation in the X-ray band.
Once the gas gets closer than a few times the horizon radius, it plunges into the black hole, so while some X-rays can still escape just before the horizon, most are emitted a fair bit outside.
X-rays are generated by BH-star binary systems from a thermalized accretion disk. This process produces soft (low energy) X-ray radiation. In some systems, the high energy emission is much harder than that of a thermal disk and dominated by synchrotron X-rays emitted from shocked gas in the jet.
emotions?...family / friends / acquaintances seeing it differently at the time you noticed and a discussion as to why...
i'm looking for the trigger point, if there is one
perhaps we have control of this and perhaps we don't
i'm thinking of Z and his mirrors along the road affecting him as he hasWell the giant solar mirror happened several months AFTER our return The Texas trip was end of June I saw the solar plant on the way to War in october... so I had already known I was in a different timelin, the mirrors just confirmed it in a solid slap to the face kinda way. Not a small spelling erro but a whole giant solar plant glitch :P
thoughts/beliefs of the gov with the looking glass stuff
does this need a physical trigger or do you need a belief system in stuff?
Two Kinds of vm-Teleportation Identified for the Air Force Study
• Traversable Wormhole engineered as a “STARGATE”
(via Einstein’s General Relativity Theory field equations, 1915)
• Faster-Than-Light (FTL) solutions of the Polarizable-Vacuum Representation of General Relativity (Davis,Puthoff, Maccone, 2003; , Puthoff, 1999, 2000) induce a flat-spacetime version of the Stargate via engineering the vacuum EM parameters
Part 1: What are Traversable Wormholes?
• Hyperspace tunnels thru spacetime, which can:
connect together remote regions within our universe
connect together different universes
connect together different space dimensions (for higher dimensional wormholes)
connect together different chronological periods within the same space region (backwards time travel!)
Part 2 - What are Traversable Wormholes?
• Traversable Wormholes possess:
normal or backwards time flow
normal or nonexistent gravitational stresses on space travelers
entry/exit openings (or throats) that can be made to be spherically shaped, cubic shaped,polyhedral shaped, generic shaped, etc.
flat entry/exit openings are possible – a true STARGATE or flat doorway through spacetime &dimensions!
i was very open to anything when younger..no restrictions and no tv/movie influences so my trips seem to be all over the place with content..
i have memories of being places i know i have never been in the physical but knowledge of them..details i couldn't have gotten from reading...
come on guys..think about it and speak up..we may be on the way to multiple lives we can access at will and move thur
2) Something did happen in 2012. We entered a new world as Dolores Cannon suggested,
The other thing I have noticed is that things change after we have slept on it! I have encountered problems which just seemed that couldnt be resolved. Yet go to bed and sleep and next day problem solved or changed. Is that how we enter a parallel universe, while we are sleeping
yeah Mic i think it's been happening before that but something is making us more aware...and if we are more aware what should we do with that?
do we want the control to jump time lines or dimensions at will?
or stop it from happening without conscent?
or did we give consent somewhere else?..lol
maybe we are really going to the new earth ?.. the 5th dimension?...where it is all different in application but we are awake and aware ?
is it the end of a journey or just a short stop in one?
even though i think it's more than the presidential election stuff
That Puthoff really gets around. He has his fingers stuck in an awful lot of pies.
I wonder exactly what he is. I thought he was connected with RV, which I suppose could be linked to just about anything the government might be up to.
Cool 8) no gear on the spindle :P
(http://www.thelivingmoon.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10004/thumb_Sun_dial.jpg)
A51Watcher wrote -
I did understand some of that and Googled the rest. Fascinating stuff.
Now, why are there two event horizons?
So is it simply that we assign the task to our subconscious and then we remeber it the next day?I suppose it is.
if semi-conductors break the laws of physics, who is to say that many things don't?They do? ???
Here's the thing with Dolores. I watched her videos before 2012 and when it came and went with nothing seeming to have happened I just pushed her info to the side thinking that it was a lot smoke.
Fast forward to now, some of the stuff she talked about seems to fit!
Here's My thoughts... WHY is it only recently that anyOne has these experiences? No One was discussing things changing that I met back in 2000 or even 2005 - long after the web was available to compare notes.
And WHY are the "misremembered" things "misremembered" identically?
So... Something is happening here, and recently (relatively speaking) at that.
Hey A51,
After reading your last couple of posts I'm beginning to believe Carroll's Alice's Adventures In Wonderland was a discreet data dump by parties unknown.
They do not want to create a black hole.
Did they really say that? Or did someone else say it?
After reading this CERN page (https://press.cern/backgrounders/safety-lhc) I can only see they said that it was highly unlikely that a microscopic black hole could be created by the LHC, but even if it was, the theories that say that it was possible also say that the microscopic black holes would disappear instantly.
Are you sure about that?You're right, I'm not. I should have said that they never said they wanted to create a black hole. :)
Yes they really said that :PSource, please.
You need to expand your reading :PWhat does "filed at Los Alamos" mean? ???
This is a paper filed at Los Alamos (highlights are mine)
What does "filed at Los Alamos" mean? ???
'filed' as in archived the file I posted is from the Los Alamos National Laboratoy ArchiveThen why is it archived on the Cornell University digital repository?
Then why is it archived on the Cornell University digital repository?
Stephen Hawking Confirming Danny Wilten's Theory On Gate To Another Universe In Orion
Steve Hawking has changed his mind and now says black holes are portals to another Universe
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oE5Ed9plVeE
Needs more reseacrch but I tossed it in here for reference
The Los Alamos National Laboratory hosted the arXiv e-print archive. The arXiv is currently operated and funded by Cornell University.That explains it, but in that case it looks like you were still in the old timeline. ;)
Why are there eight lives?
Ra: I am Ra. This is a statement we cannot say to be correct or incorrect due to the confusions of what you call time.
That explains it, but in that case it looks like you were still in the old timeline. ;)
good question... in Tibetan(and Rosicrucian) it is 9 lives (yes like cats :P) which makes sense because esoteric numerology is based on 9
( lives per level but you may fudge up and have to repeat a year :P )
I am currently on my eight reincarnation on this rock. Sleeper told John Lear that this is his last one.
When i first met John he was very upset that I had anything regarding the Dalai lama and Ttibet on my website (that is also the reason I am blocked in China so I was told... I seem to recall that Deuem confirmed that )
But in later years after much discourse with Sleeper John is now on baord with Tibetan reincarnation :D
No I have not read the Seth material or the law of One I am sure I have it somewhere in te archives though. Will check my lists but it may be lost in those files not done yet
I am pretty certain that the ONLY reason we get any sense that something is wrong with the timeline issues is because part of us exists outside of time. If that was not the case, we would be unaware that anything was wrongMany of the esoteric teachings point to the us experiencing the journey in the meatsuit is only an isolated piece of the total us;as you say, the oversoul is why we are aware that things are not on an even keel...
But we can feel that the days are shorte yet our clocks tell us they haven't changed. General concensus at this point from those researching it is that a day is roughly 16 hours currently
Pegasus & My Shapeshifting Teacup
This is the teacup I mentioned earlier in this thread; the one that had the magical disappearing defect.
(http://www.thelivingmoon.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10026/tmp_22771-20170314_171422-107184469.jpg)
But we can feel that the days are shorte yet our clocks tell us they haven't changed. General concensus at this point from those researching it is that a day is roughly 16 hours currently
While our perception of time would be altered, the units of time measured would remain the same.
I still cannot deal with it. Something so obviously happened to it and no matter what I do or think I cannot explain it.
WTF is going on while we are asleep?
i'm not saying this to freak you out but have you given any thought that maybe you have this cup in two different time lines and in one the cup has a defect?
was anything else different on the day of the defect any thing
or was it a defect for a week..how about then?
just a thought.. i'm still looking at every little thing i can to try and figure this out..mostly for my own self because i have no answers for things in my life lately
Stories like THIS one are what i am looking for and why i don't pay attention to scoffers and nay sayers that have never had an experience.
Like my 'jump' on the way home from Texas there is no mistaking it for me and my daughter. Convincing others that have never had an experience of any kind is impossible, because they won't allow their view of reality be altered. Scares them as much as it scares us that have had it happen
Things like the cup defect are much better example than changed logos or different spellings (though Micjer's photo of JC Penny sure is an awesome one :P )
There are more and more people coming forward as they see others telling their story. To be sure many will jump on the band wagon to piggyback on the attention, but I have laearned over the years to spot the difference between a real experiencer and a bullpoopter...
Well except for the political thing, you seem pretty close to the original sky otter :P But I do have to say you scared the hell out of me when I got back and found we were on oppsing team on that
As far as Hawking goes Zorgon, I am really confused about the fact that he has had Motor Neurone Disease or lou Gering's disease? since he was at Cambridge in his 20's. And his still alive.
I'm scratching my head about that one because people with that don't usually live that long, just sayin.
Irene
i'm not saying this to freak you out but have you given any thought that maybe you have this cup in two different time lines and in one the cup has a defect?
was anything else different on the day of the defect any thing
or was it a defect for a week..how about then?
maybe we are rolling around thur several and only notice things like the cup defect cause most of it is the same
just a thought.. i'm still looking at every little thing i can to try and figure this out..mostly for my own self because i have no answers for things in my life lately
I have no idea if I'm switching back and forth between realities, or if the teacup is. As far as I recall, nothing unusual happened during that period of time, although I admit my dreams and nightmares are becoming stranger and stranger.
"The Inner Light" is the 125th episode overall and the 25th episode of the fifth season of the American science fiction television series Star Trek: The Next Generation. The episode was written by freelance writer Morgan Gendel based on his original pitch. Gendel is credited as writer of the story and co-writer of the teleplay with Peter Allan Fields. It is the penultimate episode of the season and was first broadcast on June 1, 1992.
In the story, Captain Jean-Luc Picard (Patrick Stewart) is struck with an energy beam from an alien probe. While minutes pass for the rest of the crew, Picard experiences 40 years as Kamin, a humanoid scientist whose planet is threatened by the nova of its sun. Picard learns that the purpose of the probe was to keep alive the memory of Kamin's race long after the death of their civilization. The probe also contains Kamin's flute; Picard, having mastered it as Kamin, finds he retains the skill to play it. He keeps it as a memento for the remainder of the series.
The episode is widely considered by critics and fans as one of the best episodes of the entire Star Trek franchise. In 1993, "The Inner Light" won the Hugo Award for Best Dramatic Presentation. The flute melody, featured prominently in the episode, was composed by Jay Chattaway and has since been re-arranged for a full orchestra. The episode is also a favorite among both fans and members of the show's cast and crew.
Did you post about the jump you had; I would like to read it if you don't mind; fascinating.
"Star Trek: TNG" did an episode where Picard lived out an entire lifetime only to wake up and discover it was only a short dream... the story ended with Picard playing a flute... a skill he picked up in that dream
As to Hawking... I am not familiar with the implications of that disease and how long people live so cannot really add to that commentI think he wasn't supposed to live much more than 30 or 40 years.
I think he wasn't supposed to live much more than 30 or 40 years.Magic Johnson was supposed to have died from aids, or should I say, should have, back in the early 90's, yet he is still alive and kicking; note that he isn't just HIV positive, he has AIDS :o
I think he wasn't supposed to live much more than 30 or 40 years.
Why has Hawking lived so long with this malady when so many other people die so soon after diagnosis? We spoke with Leo McCluskey, an associate professor of neurology and medical director of the ALS Center at the University of Pennsylvania, to find out more about the disease and why it has spared Hawking and his amazing brain.edit to add: Here are 3 paragraphs from the link for you biggles 8)
What has Stephen Hawking's case shown about the disease?
One thing that is highlighted by this man's course is that this is an incredibly variable disorder in many ways. On average people live two to three years after diagnosis. But that means that half the people live longer, and there are people who live for a long, long time.
Life expectancy turns on two things: the motor neurons running the diaphragm—the breathing muscles. So the common way people die is of respiratory failure. And the other thing is the deterioration of swallowing muscles, and that can lead to malnutrition and dehydration. If you don't have these two things, you could potentially live for a long time—even though you're getting worse. What's happened to him is just astounding. He's certainly an outlier.
I'm not sure how to be display links, so I will just post a link on Hawking's disease.
I'm not sure how to be display links, so I will just post a link on Hawking's disease. If you want to display it for me ArMap I would appreciate it.
https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/stephen-hawking-als/
edit to add: Here are 3 paragraphs from the link for you biggles 8)
seeker
Can someone post a picture of a skull off of Google pics.
When did we all develop bones/cartilage behind our eyes. Sorry but the skull I remember were just round holes.
Can someone post a picture of a skull off of Google pics.
When did we all develop bones/cartilage behind our eyes. Sorry but the skull I remember were just round holes.
When did we all develop bones/cartilage behind our eyes. Sorry but the skull I remember were just round holes.And do you remember human skulls being like other animals' skulls?
Couple questions.Mic, are you a member over at spookz? If so, search for a thread I did there probably around 2008-09 titled "On the increase of personal awakenings..." if they didn't delete it ::)
1) How many people are noticing the changes in the matrix?
2) Any chance these are markers for those aware to help them wake up?
3) Any chance there are volunteers here at this "time" to aid in the waking up process?
4) Does the 100 th monkey theory play out here.
There are so many things that I look at and think are just wrong. If it were one or two it would be no big deal. Is the veil lifting even though those in "control" are trying everything to distract us.
Not deleted Seeker. Read a couple pages. Great material there. Going back to read it all. Topic on spooks sure fits this topic in my opinion.Perhaps I need to sneak in and transfer it; did you notice the date on it?
I don't think that the changes in this timeline is the important thing. The important thing is for us to be conscious of the fact that the timeline changed because, accepting that, it changes everything. It is an awakening in itself. It is confirmation that we are not crazy in our search for the truth.
Not deleted Seeker. Read a couple pages. Great material there. Going back to read it all. Topic on spooks sure fits this topic in my opinion.
I don't think that the changes in this timeline is the important thing. The important thing is for us to be conscious of the fact that the timeline changed because, accepting that, it changes everything. It is an awakening in itself. It is confirmation that we are not crazy in our search for the truth.
Irene.
Above top secret. "On the increase of personal awakenings"
2008Nine years ago, and now it has come back around 8)
Perhaps I need to sneak in and transfer it; did you notice the date on it?
Couple questions.
1) How many people are noticing the changes in the matrix?
2) Any chance these are markers for those aware to help them wake up?
3) Any chance there are volunteers here at this "time" to aid in the waking up process?
4) Does the 100 th monkey theory play out here.
There are so many things that I look at and think are just wrong. If it were one or two it would be no big deal. Is the veil lifting even though those in "control" are trying everything to distract us.
2) Any chance these are markers for those aware to help them wake up?
Mic, are you a member over at spookz? If so, search for a thread I did there probably around 2008-09 titled "On the increase of personal awakenings..." if they didn't delete it ::)
On SPOOK CENTRAL....Or even better, as this will get you only results on ATS:
You can use GOOGLE to find ATS pages
just use ATS seeker and title
I have the first 10 pages of my thread saved, will get the rest moved over here; I forgot how big it was :o
Seeker
For IRENE
What happened in 2008?
Dec. 16, 2008: NASA's five THEMIS spacecraft have discovered a breach in Earth's magnetic field ten times larger than anything previously thought to exist
Giant Breach in Earth's Magnetic Field Discovered
(https://smd-prod.s3.amazonaws.com/science-pink/s3fs-public/mnt/medialibrary/2008/12/16/16dec_giantbreach_resources/breachmodel_strip.jpg)
https://science.nasa.gov/science-news/science-at-nasa/2008/16dec_giantbreach
I gave my wife a test of 100 known examples of the Mandela effect. Showed her comparison pictures of products/brand names and asked her questions as to quotes from movies/tv shows.
Well she failed. 90 percent "wrong".
Oops...She never noticed. Now she is on a quest to watch old movies and shows.
She says "no damn way it is Magic Mirror on the Wall"
I gave my wife a test of 100 known examples of the Mandela effect. Showed her comparison pictures of products/brand names and asked her questions as to quotes from movies/tv shows.Start a thread on the test and post the 100 questions; will be interesting to see how everyone does...
Well she failed. 90 percent "wrong".
Oops...She never noticed. Now she is on a quest to watch old movies and shows.
She says "no damn way it is Magic Mirror on the Wall"
Start a thread on the test and post the 100 questions; will be interesting to see how everyone does...
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Seeker
She says "no damn way it is Magic Mirror on the Wall"
it was AWAYS "Mirror mirror" :PI remember "mirror mirror", but I don't remember if it was from that movie or not.
Here is what will happen at Midnight (UT) Dec 21st 2012...
The Matrix will be reset...
Problem is... no one will know anything changed :D
Found the answer to the time line question!😎
Google....
Mandela effect Dolores Cannon youtube.
I listened to it today. Mind bending material.
I tell you that Matrix Traveller S INFORMATION Is bang on when compared to her info.
She spoke of people not finding a gas station similar to Z 's experience.
2 hours long but I found it well worth my time.
We are all creating our own play and living our lives to learn. She says we have chosen our own fate and if we seem to be having a tough time it is because we chose that life ahead of our experience.
Well, I'm the biggest idiot then Mic; cuz sometimes I have had it.biggles, you need to read about my death experience, for I cover that in there...we volunteer to come here and also choose our major experiences; we are here to experience all things...
biggles, you need to read about my death experience, for I cover that in there...we volunteer to come here and also choose our major experiences; we are here to experience all things...
Seeker
Could you give me a link honey, would love to read. I'll do a search honey, I'm just way too lazy with all these darn meds I take, you do enough as it is pet. xoWell, I just went thru all my threads and posts looking for a link to it here and can't find it :o I did find the original over at spookz, but I know it was also over here, remember talking to Zorgon about it and he suggesting putting it in the Mystic's realm; also distinctly remembering discussing it with Matrix, and that thread actually led to a major confrontation between me and Deuem back in 2014...
Well, I just went thru all my threads and posts looking for a link to it here and can't find it :o I did find the original over at spookz, but I know it was also over here, remember talking to Zorgon about it and he suggesting putting it in the Mystic's realm; also distinctly remembering discussing it with Matrix, and that thread actually led to a major confrontation between me and Deuem back in 2014...Thanks Seeker, goin to read now. xo
A Look at the other side: my near death experience (http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread469470/pg1)
now I am going to have to move it over here again
8)
Seeker
Well, I just went thru all my threads and posts looking for a link to it here and can't find it :o I did find the original over at spookz, but I know it was also over here, remember talking to Zorgon about it and he suggesting putting it in the Mystic's realm; also distinctly remembering discussing it with Matrix, and that thread actually led to a major confrontation between me and Deuem back in 2014...Heavens above Seeker, I cannot believe your heart stopped for that long. That is enough to give you brain damage.
A Look at the other side: my near death experience (http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread469470/pg1)
now I am going to have to move it over here again
8)
Seeker
Well, I just went thru all my threads and posts looking for a link to it here and can't find it :o I did find the original over at spookz, but I know it was also over here, remember talking to Zorgon about it and he suggesting putting it in the Mystic's realm; also distinctly remembering discussing it with Matrix, and that thread actually led to a major confrontation between me and Deuem back in 2014...
A Look at the other side: my near death experience (http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread469470/pg1)
now I am going to have to move it over here again
8)
Seeker
Nice thread Seeker.
Interesting how you seemed to have a choice between the white light and the tunnel.
I have to think about the movie Men in Black. When they wanted to erase your memory and set you "straight" it was the pen with the bright light that they used. Somewhere Soma had a thread on the beliefs of the Hindu of life after death. They spoke of a white light choice, or a Blue one. Blue was the one you wanted as the White one was to trap us here.
I have never had a NDE, however your account, Seeker is what I expect happens. I believe we judge ourselves and feel the pain that we have caused othersI can point you to 10,000 accounts of nde's just like mine; read any of the works of Dr. Raymond Moody, or watch the movie "Saved by the light" starring Eric Roberts; it is about a friend of mine named Dannion Brinkley...
Wow, amazing story. I want out of this hellhole, so if given a choice I'm gone.There is many truths to be found in the so-called "occult"(hidden) esoteric teachings of many such as the Tibetan Monks, the Hindu, The Quabbalah, many relegated to the bin of myth and legend...
Coming here to learn only to constantly suffer is not my idea of living. I want to be with my family. All but one have passed. It's time for me to leave.
There is many truths to be found in the so-called "occult"(hidden) esoteric teachings of many such as the Tibetan Monks, the Hindu, The Quabbalah, many relegated to the bin of myth and legend...
there is a reset button for those that can't deal with their current paradigm (suicide) but it is a reset button; you are going to start all over and relive everything up until you pushed the reset until you make it past it...
8)
Seeker
Every one of us human beings has two minds. One is totally ours, and it is like a faint voice that always brings us order, directness, purpose. The other mind is a foreign installation. It brings us conflict, self-assertion, doubts, hopelessness.
The message is pretty scary. It's hard to tell people that you're owned lock, stock, and barrel by the ETs.
You don't do anything that they don't know about, haven't directed and, personally, guided.
Been busy and finally got a chance to check in to see what responses I might have gotten only to find that My comments and Others' have been moved...but no link to WHERE. At least I could find none...http://www.thelivingmoon.com/forum/index.php?topic=10008.msg133882#msg133882 (http://www.thelivingmoon.com/forum/index.php?topic=10008.msg133882#msg133882)
http://www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message3233995/pg1
Over at the "Moran" site, some guy posted a future page from 2018 ! If this sort of timeline stuff amuses you, give it a look. Apparently, Texas and NY get nuked - perhaps by jihadists.
Another glitch to report. I read this morning that Ted Koppel recently appeared on "Hannity".Ted Koppel retired on Nov. 22, 2005, and has been working for the discovery channel; Peter Jennings died, but I don't remember anything about Koppel...
In my timeline, Koppel died in the early 2000's. :o
Ted Koppel retired on Nov. 22, 2005, and has been working for the discovery channel; Peter Jennings died, but I don't remember anything about Koppel...
Seeker
The only thing I can think of was, about that same time that you had your experience, I went to get out of bed one morning, and I was dizzy as hell. I had to hold on to the edge of the bed and everything was just spinning.
I was not hung over, quite sure it wasn't vertigo as it didn't last very long and haven't experienced it before or after.
Never really thought about it again, until this discussion.
Sorry guys, the numbnut put my quote inside Mic's if one of the admin's can unquote mine from his that would be good, sorry again.
I'll do it for ya. :)
Thank you honey, I'm glad I made you laugh though, we need more of that. ;D
And if one more person says it wasn't Sex In the City I will blow a gasket.It wasn't Sex In the City. :P
It wasn't Sex In the City. :P
It wasn't Sex In the City. :P
The only thing I can think of was, about that same time that you had your experience, I went to get out of bed one morning, and I was dizzy as hell. I had to hold on to the edge of the bed and everything was just spinning.
Never really thought about it again, until this discussion.
My question is... why would this be shown now????
Heres something I just found.... isn't this what we all remember?????
How many times have we heard that truth is often stranger than fiction? Or that it is amazing that today's science fiction becomes tomorrow's reality?
Roger Zelazny wrote the "Chronicles of Amber" about the true Earth, that cast innumerable shadows (timelines) thruout the multi-verse; does it not stand to reason that if there are many timelines, that in each one there would numerous copies of us, too?
Altho I wonder about the different personas we would encounter...
Seeker
....but why are we in this particular timeline?
....did we all shift at once, or just some of us and joined others that were already here. Hence the different memories in the Mandela effect theory.
....will we shift again?That remains to be seen; 8) did we jump to a different timeline, or are two lines becoming one?
I'll try and see if I can track down that book Chronicles of Amber, sounds like a very interesting read.It is, biggsy; the first book will get your attention, titled "Nine Princes in Amber"
Well, when a catastrophe happened and we were then moved, we wouldn't be merging with that timeline.It is hard to say, since this is all speculation at this time; all we know for certain is that things appear different than remembered to a lot of us...
My family was (is) quite religious, yet while growing up, their beliefs never felt right to me. There were way too many holes in what they preached.
Even as a little kid I always believed in reincarnation, yet most of my relatives still don't. I remember bumping my head badly on a beam in a barn, and thinking, what did I do to deserve that? (karma) I always felt there was more to this life than what we looking at. A deeper meaning.
So perhaps I am a volunteer, here to experience the changes.
All I know is reading Deloras Cannon's material, or reading about Seeker's experiences when he crossed over, it sure feels like the truth.
I'm still in the Hell timeline because when I read my animal petitions and sign them I know I'm in it. I haven't bloody shifted anywhere.On that animal petition note, it is a damn shame, what was here before us, is treated like so much fodder for humanity., Perhaps Thors Nibiru is a source of humanity's reset or true core values, a return to some golden age..a bright light in the sky, ignored by the masses, but felt by those who see an external input may be the only hope we have left.
hey no need to be sorry on what you do or do not believe.. it's all personal anyway
forget meditation
forget astrology
the fact of the matter is that the planets lining up is a big deal.. in several ways.
think of the gravitation or energy waves created..
those do affect us wheather we notice them or not....
but just think of what the mental awareness factor becomes when so many are focused on one thing
does it make it happen?..don't know.. some say yes .. some say no
BUT
could that centering on something be a factor in a huge shift..why not?
consciousness doesn't change what is there but our awareness of what is there imo
Thank you Simon
That is awesome! Yes that is what 'we' remember Thank you for providing that clip. This is exactly what i was looking for in this thread some hard evidence
:D Saving this and will add it to the web page tonight
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NkClRSNF6G0
Here is a recent one I came across, I would explain, but I think it's pretty obvious.Explain what? Could you be more specific?
can someone explain this?
I remember that Hitler had brown eyes. They always told me on school " yeah that's the Irony of hitler, his Arien Race was everything he was not.I remember Hitler having brown hair and blue eyes.
Pure, blond hair and blue eyes"
And more, what do you remember about Napoleon? I'm pretty convinced he was famous for being SHORT.They already had fake news then. :)
ha effing lol, when looking around the web for Mandela, I hear a song I have never heard of before " freee Nelson Mandela"I know that song, it played a lot on the radio when it came out somewhere in the 1980s.
Explain what? Could you be more specific?
I remember Hitler having brown hair and blue eyes.
They already had fake news then. :)
I know that song, it played a lot on the radio when it came out somewhere in the 1980s.
One more, so i'v been thinking.As I stated earlier in this thread, we do seem to travel in soul groups; and the theory has been around for years among the new agers and the "light workers", amongst others, that we volunteer to come here to this plane of existence; not to experience a utopia, but to experience all things whilst helping where we can...
Let's say - some of us came from plane A. We are now in plane B.
Okay, so did we wake up in a utopia? nope, the world is still burning.
Did tptb shift with us? seeing this place is clearly the same if not worse than plane A.
What does that tell us of the system? Does that make us bad guys? Rats on an ark, stowaways on a ship that wasn't meant for us?
Does the shift a more "biological" approach, meaning it doesn't discriminate. some of us have it, others don't. Doesn't matter who you are.
So does that mean it's more a like a forced shift? I remember reading a long time ago ( here I think ) we have a certain frequency )
Maybe our frequency has been altered and we are merging with our other self.
Either way, for some reason this all makes me feel quite depressed. Because if we where the "chosen ones " wth did we end up?
The only thing I can think of, it was the butler.
Sorry for the rambling and probably spelling mistakes lol.
Also, what happened in 2008? well we had the financial crisis.
The classic "thinker" pose is a man sitting in deep thought with his hand under his chin, not pressed to his fore head...
search around for pictures of Adolph Hitler; I believe you will find he had black hair and brown eyes; the antithesis of his Aryan master race...
Seeker
8)
Seeker
Also frigupshima.Fukushima went down in 2011; and then we were subjected to their mascot, Fukuppy...
That's just it, why would all of those people do the exact opposite?I won't post photos of Hitler, go look here
Also, https://carolynyeager.net/how-many-times-does-it-have-be-said-hitler-didnt-have-dark-hair
apparently Hitler in this time line doesn't have black har and brown eyes.
Fukushima went down in 2011; and then we were subjected to their mascot, Fukuppy...
I won't post photos of Hitler, go look here
http://www.vintag.es/2015/03/50-rare-photos-of-adolf-hitler-you.html (http://www.vintag.es/2015/03/50-rare-photos-of-adolf-hitler-you.html)
As far as the 'Thinker' goes, those pictures prove that people are too stupid to get it right! Especially when it's right in front of them!
"Napoleon complex" is a theorized condition occurring in people of short stature. It is characterized by overly-aggressive or domineering social behavior, and carries the implication that such behaviour is compensatory for the subject's stature. The term is also used more generally to describe people who are driven by a perceived handicap to overcompensate in other aspects of their lives. Other names for the purported condition include Napoleonic complex, Napoleon syndrome, and Short Man syndrome.
The Napoleon complex is named after Emperor Napoleon I of France. The conventional wisdom is that Napoleon compensated for his lack of height by seeking power, war, and conquest. Though he was long reported to have stood at only 5 feet 2 inches (1.57 m), historians have now suggested Napoleon was actually 5 feet 6 inches (1.68 m) tall, taller than the average Frenchman of his time.[citation needed] Napoleon was often seen with his Imperial Guard, which contributed to the perception of his being short because the Imperial Guards were of above average height.
In psychology, the Napoleon complex is regarded as a derogatory social stereotype.
Well in MY original timeline the Thinker had his hand under CHIN What is being shown is sometimes called the ATLAS pose by body builders
(http://pre13.deviantart.net/8013/th/pre/f/2012/091/1/c/1cdc992406b414e0de4fad38f9ffa12d-d4unnra.jpg)
Hitler had BLACK HAIR and BROWN EYES His mother was JEWISH...
NAPOLEAN was SHORT ( now he was 5' 6") The really odd thing about this is that wikipedia still has THIS article
Napoleon complex
So yeah he was SHORT :P
As far as the 'Thinker' goes, those pictures prove that people are too stupid to get it right! Especially when it's right in front of them!It shows that they are not thinkers. :)
This topic was first raised in August 2015, around the time that the Berenstein/Berenstain topic surged in popularity. So, it may have become lost in the Bears discussions.
David S. was the one who mentioned it. He said, “I’ve noticed weird examples of this for years. E.g. a movie with Sinbad where he plays a genie but the closest thing would be Kazaam with Shaq.”
David S. was correct, in a 2014 Q&A Interviewly.com session, here’s what Sinbad said:
Sinbad, there is a large rumor/conspiracy going around that you played a genie in a movie in the 90’s similar to Shaq in Kazaam. Can you confirm or deny the existence of this supposed film? Thanks for the AMA!
it was SHAQ SHAQ SHAQ
but we all look alike
Several people replied to David’s comment, and I’ve moved their comments to this post, focusing specifically on the Sinbad movie.
Also, DbD had asked whether or not this Sinbad/Genie movie appeared (and then vanished) around the same time as the Looney Tunes/Toons change. It’s a good question.
Since I saw the movie in search results — and images from the movie, as well — when David S. commented (August 2015), I’m not sure the timing matches. If anyone else has both memories and can give a time frame, that could be useful.
Sinbad looks like a genie. To me, it’s not just the missing movie that’s odd… it’s that, in this reality, no one cast him as a genie, ever. It’s hard to imagine Hollywood not making good use of obvious casting and easy marketing.
UPDATE: This seems to be the same alternate memory being discussed in December 2016 as “Shazaam.” http://www.newstatesman.com/science-tech/internet/2016/12/movie-doesn-t-exist-and-redditors-who-think-it-does
First of all, lets get this straight. I am not mistaking it for "Kazaam" with Shaq O'neal. I am not mistaking it with Sinbad the Sailor. I am not mistaking it with Sinbad's segment in All That. I am not mistaking it for the way Sinbad dressed in the 90's. I am not mistaking it for the Hannah Barabara "Shazzan"
NO, THESE ARE NOT THE VHS COVERS:
http://imgur.com/gallery/W8Qty http://imgur.com/4yoZpd1
Okay. Deep Breath.
Here are the facts:
Release Date: Early 1994 Disappearance Date: Early 2000's
Shazam was played on Disney Channel a lot. At first it was movie and then later became a short-lived series. It really hurt Sinbad's career.
Movie Actors: Sinbad, Jonathan Brandis
Johnathan Brandis was in the movie, but not the series. Possibly Danny Pintauro, Brian Bonsall, or Johnathan Taylor Thomas could have replaced him.
The movie's characters are a brother and sister with a father who doesn't give them enough attention.
VHS COVER: Sinbad has his arms crossed and his eyebrow raised. The cover says "SINBAD" is bigger letters than "Shazam."
Sinbad is wearing a genie outfit consisting of a golden turban, golden pointy shoes, vest, big hoop earring and puffy pants. It is all purple and gold.
Scenes: -There is a huge ship in the middle of the desert -Sinbad is in his lamp watching the Sinbad's actual comedy show -The little girl wastes a wish on fixing her broken doll -The climax is a scene with a swimming pool
I only wrote stuff that multiple people from various sources remember.
DonnaGail 14 points 3 months ago
I am 48 years old. I vaguely remember this movie (but not the title). I remember Sinbad as a genie with his arms crossed on the advertisements for it. I never saw the movie though.
My husband is 63. I asked him if he remembered Sinbad playing a genie in a 90s movie. He immediately answered, "Yes. It was Shazaam."
I later asked my 19 year old son. He knows who Sinbad is because he used to watch Jingle all the Way when he was younger. I asked him the same question as I asked my husband. Before answering, he thought a minute then answered, "Yeah, I think the title was Shazaam. But I never saw it."
Okay, I then asked someone I know who is around 27 years old. He remembers it too. He saw it! He said there is a scene where someone wishes for a mountain of gumballs or something like that.
4 People I know (so far) that remember this movie!
spydiddley404 6 points 4 months ago
I find this mystery really interesting. The lack of concrete evidence really makes me think this is just a common false memory, but the sincere conviction of so many people really makes me wonder if it is real.
I was thinking, don't libraries keep hard copies of old newspapers archived? Or at least have the original editions stored on microfiche? Would it be possible to look through the entertainment/variety sections of newspapers from the early 90's and find evidence of this movie's original promotional campaign?
If that can't be found, how could its absence be explained while still preserving the existence of the movie? Surely scrubbing old newspapers is not feasible for something that's ultimately so inconsequential. Even if the movie never got a theatrical release and so was very sparsely promoted, wouldn't there be TV schedule listings in those newspapers that could at least show the title as having aired at certain times?
I think this may be the most likely route for some concrete indication one way or the other. Has anyone who firmly "remembers" this movie tried looking into old newspapers?
Agreed on all, ( I can see the confusion with the Thinker ) however it seems the internet doesn't really agree anymore.
so either we are all mistaken ( especially the hitler one ) or...
It shows that they are not thinkers. :)
Hitler had BLACK HAIR and BROWN EYES His mother was JEWISH...Jews can have blue eyes.
NAPOLEAN was SHORT ( now he was 5' 6") The really odd thing about this is that wikipedia still has THIS articleI'm also 5' 6", so yes, he was short. :)
Napoleon complex
So yeah he was SHORT :P
And then there is THIS :PI noticed a Berenstain Bears book on the ground and found it suspicious, and found this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tD0rchvuoMU
I don't have any idea if this is true or not, as I never heard about him or the movie/series, but the video does look suspicious, with all those references to the Mandela Effect.
Did you even bother to read any of the comments for the Youtube video or see who uploaded it, and more importantly, the day that it was uploaded?I watched the video embedded here, so I didn't see any of that.
I noticed a Berenstain Bears book on the ground and found it suspicious, and found this:
Sinbad created a fake version of that ’90s genie movie people always think he was in (http://www.avclub.com/article/sinbad-created-fake-version-90s-genie-movie-people-253083)
I don't have any idea if this is true or not, as I never heard about him or the movie/series, but the video does look suspicious, with all those references to the Mandela Effect.
IT'S SHREDDING MY PAPERS INTO THIN STRIPS INSTEAD OF DIAMONDS!I never used a shredder in my life, but is it possible that your shredder is only half working, making only the longitudinal cuts and not cutting the strips in smaller pieces?
I never used a shredder in my life, but is it possible that your shredder is only half working, making only the longitudinal cuts and not cutting the strips in smaller pieces?
ArMaP, don't make me slap you. ::)Remember that neither I or anyone else can make you do anything, only you have that power. :)
Remember that neither I or anyone else can make you do anything, only you have that power. :)
PS: could you just answer my question? It was a honest question from someone that doesn't know a paper shredder works.
No. It only shreds in diamonds. Well it did before I moved. ::)I wasn't asking if it has two modes of cutting the paper. From what I have seen, those "diamonds" are created by cutting the paper in strips and then cutting those strips diagonally, so it needs two working sets of blades to make the two types of cuts, and theoretically, if the second set is not working it will work as common strip shredder.
I wasn't asking if it has two modes of cutting the paper. From what I have seen, those "diamonds" are created by cutting the paper in strips and then cutting those strips diagonally, so it needs two working sets of blades to make the two types of cuts, and theoretically, if the second set is not working it will work as common strip shredder.
Someone please pass the Preparation H.
Strange things happening on a more regular basis Irene.That's why I think we should be sure of which are strange things and which are not, so we don't waste time with common events.
That's why I think we should be sure of which are strange things and which are not, so we don't waste time with common events.
The Human Brain Can Create Structures in Up to 11 Dimensions
"We found a world that we had never imagined."
SIGNE DEAN 13 JUN 2017
In brief
The goal of the Blue Brain Project is to build biologically detailed digital reconstructions and simulations of the rodent, and ultimately the human brain.
The supercomputer-based reconstructions and simulations built by the project offer a radically new approach for understanding the multilevel structure and function of the brain.
The project's novel research strategy exploits interdependencies in the experimental data to obtain dense maps of the brain, without measuring every detail of its multiple levels of organization (molecules, cells, micro-circuits, brain regions, the whole brain).
This strategy allows the project to build digital reconstructions (computer models) of the brain at an unprecedented level of biological detail.
Supercomputer-based simulation of their behavior turns understanding the brain into a tractable problem, providing a new tool to study the complex interactions within different levels of brain organization and to investigate the cross-level links leading from genes to cognition.
Now does ANYONE else remember this event being in Death Valley?I don't remember where it takes place, but I do remember that it was not Death Valley.
can't believe you people still don't know how to look stuff up ~just type in what you want to know about and pick one or more... i started to seperate them butThey know how to look up stuff, they just don't like what they see, as it doesn't agree with their memories. :P
They know how to look up stuff, they just don't like what they see, as it doesn't agree with their memories. :P
can't believe you people still don't know how to look stuff up ~just type in what you want to know about and pick one or more... i started to seperate them but
So far we have already found a photo in a member's album that has the JC Penny spelling and we have the Disney with Tinkerbell dotting the I in a game show video background so SOME trace of our reality has survived... which in itself is a very IMPORTANT factorThis video?
This video?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TNNwPmzTsCY (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TNNwPmzTsCY)
She isn't dotting the "I".
I haz coined a new phrase...
Timeline Deniers :P
:o
::)
8)
All well and true, Otter; I do appreciate the fact that all (or at least the greater majority of us) are having a go of it these past few years...most of us aren't slackers or quitters, or we wouldn't still be here
ANd somne of us are working with limited time to do things; it's called trying to survive.
Seeker
WE ARE ALL TRYING TO SURVIVE..
Seeker thur many years and many posts and pm conversations I felt that I have been privileged to call you friend.
I feel deeply for your hardships at this time but I know you will survive because that’s just who you are
but even though we do not have the same hardships at the same time doesn’t mean any of us have it easy
some of us speak of our lives to share and some of us don’t..it’s all good..but we are all trying to survive as best as we can
I wish for you all that you would wish for yourself..may you be blessed with all you need or want
big hugs
I haz coined a new phrase...There's no need to deny something that hasn't been proved as existing. :)
Timeline Deniers :P
There's no need to deny something that hasn't been proved as existing. :)
so now i can blame all my mis-takes on the other me living in tandem
with this me but in another dimension.....cool
but i sure wish that other me would tell me
where certain things are that i can't find..
and there are no timeline deniers
just
timeline non-experiencers
or
timeline non-recognisers
unless the dimension thing bites you in the butt and scares the you-know-what outta you
Except ArMap :P he is a denier :PIt's just an idea, not even a theory, so there's nothing to deny. :)
This Quantum Theory Predicts That The Future Might Be Influencing The Past
No, seriously.
MIKE MCRAE
One of the weirder aspects of quantum mechanics could be explained by an equally weird idea – that causation can run backwards in time as well as forwards.
What Einstein called "spooky" action at a distance could theoretically be evidence of retrocausality, which is the particle equivalent of you getting a stomach ache today thanks to tomorrow's bad lunch.
A pair of physicists from the US and Canada took a closer look at some basic assumptions in quantum theory and decided unless we discovered time necessarily ran one way, measurements made to a particle could echo back in time as well as forward.
We all know quantum mechanics is weird. And part of that weirdness comes down to the fact that at a fundamental level, particles don't act like solid billiard balls rolling down a table, but rather like a blurry cloud of possibilities shifting around the room.
This blurry cloud comes into sharp focus when we try to measure particles, meaning we can only ever see a white ball hitting a black one into the corner pocket, and never countless white balls hitting black balls into every pocket.
There is an argument among physicists over whether that cloud of maybes represents something real, or if it's just a convenient representation.
A physicist by the name of Huw Price claimed back in 2012 that if the strange probabilities behind quantum states reflect something real, and if nothing restricts time to one direction, the black ball in that cloud of maybes could theoretically roll out of the pocket and knock the white ball.
"Critics object that there is complete time-symmetry in classical physics, and yet no apparent retrocausality. Why should the quantum world be any different?" Price wrote, paraphrasing the thoughts of most physicists.
Matthew S. Leifer from Chapman University in California and Matthew F. Pusey from the Perimeter Institute for Theoretical Physics in Ontario also wondered if the quantum world might be different when it comes to time.
The pair exchanged some of Price's assumptions and applied their new model to something called Bell's theorem, which is a big deal in this whole spooky action at a distance business.
John Stewart Bell said that the weird things that happen in quantum mechanics can't ever be explained by actions taking place nearby. It's as if nothing is causing the multitude of billiard balls to take such varied paths. At a fundamental level, the Universe is random.
But what about actions taking place somewhere else... or somewhen else? Can something far away influence that cloud without touching it, in a way that Einstein called "spooky"?
If two particles are connected in space at some point, measuring a property of one of them instantly sets the value for the other, no matter where in the Universe it has moved to.
This 'entanglement' has been tested over and over again in light of Bell's theorem, plugging loopholes that might show they are really interacting on a local level in some way, in spite of what seems to be a distance.
As you might guess, the Universe still seems pretty spooky.
But if causality ran backwards, it would mean a particle could carry the action of its measurement back in time to when it was entangled, affecting its partner. No faster-than-light messages needed.
That's the hypothesis Leifer and Pusey were going by.
"There is a small group of physicists and philosophers that think this idea is worth pursuing," Leifer told Lisa Zyga at Phys.org.
By reformulating a few basic assumptions, the researchers developed a model based on Bell's theorem where space was swapped for time. By their reckoning, unless we can show why time must always tick forward, we run into some contradictions.
Needless to say, the idea of retrocausality is a fringe idea.
"There is not, to my knowledge, a generally agreed upon interpretation of quantum theory that recovers the whole theory and exploits this idea. It is more of an idea for an interpretation at the moment, so I think that other physicists are rightly sceptical, and the onus is on us to flesh out the idea."
Now keep in mind, this kind of backwards time travel isn't the sort that would allow you to go back in time and consciously change the present, sorry to say. Future scientists also won't be able to encode lottery numbers into entangled electrons and mail them back to their younger selves.
In any case, the idea of anything trickling backwards in time might not be an appealing one, but let's face it, when it comes to phenomena like entanglement, nearly any explanation is going to sound downright insane.
This research was published in Proceedings of The Royal Society A.
Looks like Scientists are getting with it :P
This Quantum Theory Predicts That The Future Might Be Influencing The Past
(http://www.sciencealert.com/images/articles/processed/time_reverse_1024.jpg)
http://www.sciencealert.com/this-quantum-theory-predicts-the-future-might-influence-the-past
TWO-WAY TIME
A new theory of time, which rejects the notion that yesterday preceded to-day in any absolute sense, reveals the possibility that events now occurring are among the factors that decided Caesar nearly 2,000 years ago to cross the Rubicon, and which questions the theory of the fourth dimension, was propounded recently by Dr. Gilbert N. Lewis, physicist, of the University of California.
The theory revolutionizes the hoary idea of cause and effect. It presents time as symmetrical, flowing in two directions. It pictures the present as not only "pushed into existence by the past" but also "pulled into existence by the future." It denies that the universe is running down to a lifeless and changeless end and poses the idea that the whole universe may sometime return exactly to its present condition.
Thus far, Dr. Lewis made it clear, he has found proof for his theory only in the field of physics. "But if one has the temerity to apply to the whole universe the laws that are now adopted in the little republic of physics," he said, "the entire conception of the sequence of time must be changed."
Outlining prohibitory laws in physics, such as the law against perpetual motion machines, upon which certain branches of the science have been built, he said:
"In this address I am going to discuss another such prohibition which has the widest implications in science and philosophy. This law states that in the domain of physical science one must never attempt to distinguish between past and future.
"It was the careful scrutiny of the meaning of time in physics that led to the principle of relativity, but in the work of Einstein and of Minkowski there remain a past and a future, and the picture of events jostled into a mysterious and passive future by an active past."
This concept of time moving only in one direction was introduced by Newton, yet in the Newtonian mechanics it has long been recognized that no more than a simple symmetrical time is needed, said Dr. Lewis.
"From existing astronomical data," he went on, "we may predict an eclipse 1,000 years hence, or calculate an eclipse of 1,000 years ago, both with equal accuracy. If we should construct a moving picture to represent the motions of the solar system, it would be just as satisfactory if it were run backwards, and the Newtonian laws would be equally well obeyed."
With this banishment of the idea of "one-way time," Dr. Lewis pointed out that the established idea that cause precedes effect must be abandoned. Cause and effect, he said, are not analogous to purpose and fulfillment but are part of a symmetrical pattern. Events are thus controlled not alone by the factors which come before but also by those which follow. If you decide to buy a new suit today, you will do so not simply because you noticed that your old one was shabby yesterday, but equally because you will want to wear it to-morrow."
For evidence to support his theory, Dr. Lewis said, while it is still the current view, some physicists have questioned the law of thermodynamics which implies that the universe is running down and will eventually become lifeless and changeless.
"Beginning with Williard Gibbs," he said, "there have been many who realized that just as a pack of cards, if indefinitely shuffled, will eventually return to its original arrangement so any physico-chemical system, when left to itself in any initial state, must return to that state."
TWO-WAY TIME
A new theory of time, which rejects the notion that yesterday preceded to-day in any absolute sense, reveals the possibility that events now occurring are among the factors that decided Caesar nearly 2,000 years ago to cross the Rubicon, and which questions the theory of the fourth dimension, was propounded recently by Dr. Gilbert N. Lewis, physicist, of the University of California.
The theory revolutionizes the hoary idea of cause and effect. It presents time as symmetrical, flowing in two directions. It pictures the present as not only "pushed into existence by the past" but also "pulled into existence by the future." It denies that the universe is running down to a lifeless and changeless end and poses the idea that the whole universe may sometime return exactly to its present condition.
Mic, if you look closely at what has been written in the past that some are always expounding upon, such as the Christian Rapture and the battle of Armegeddon, it doesn't say the world is going to end...
So if this theory is true, the world cannot end anytime soon as some may predict. There were things happening in the world prior to Ceasar. Also I wonder when was day 0? hmmmmm
MessageToEagle.com – Scientists are working hard to find solid evidence supporting the many-worlds theory. Not long ago, physicists announced they are investing intriguing ripples in space-time that could offer evidence of parallel universes.
While the scientific quest for other dimensions and parallel universe continues, we can use the opportunity to learn about curious cases of people who by mistake entered invisible worlds existing next to our own.
There are many interesting stories about people who vanish into thin air. Did these people slip into a parallel universe? What is unusual and almost unheard of is that someone who lives in unknown realms suddenly enters our universe. To them, and their ‘universe of origin’ our world would be the parallel universe.
This is exactly what happened to Lenia Barcía, a woman from Spain who suddenly felt everything around her was wrong.
Her story is so bizarre that many people who heard it had a difficult time to take it seriously. Was Lenia Barcía delusional or did she suffer from mental illness?
It’s easy to dismiss her story as fantasies, but what if her experience is real? Could she be a true visitor from another world? Did she fall into our universe by mistake?
Same Apartment But Some Things Were Out Of Place
It all started when Lenia Barcía woke up in her Madrid apartment one morning. It seemed like just another normal day, but she noticed something odd. She didn’t recognize the bed sheets she had just slept on. She didn’t think much about it, but soon she noticed small things around her that suggested something was wrong. Her apartment seemed to be the same, but some items seemed out of place, as if they didn’t belong there.
Some items in her flat were missing, while others were things she had never seen before. What was wrong?
The most shocking discovery was that her boyfriend was gone. Did he leave her? Where did he go?
At first, Lenia thought her boyfriend had gone missing. However, the truth was much more horrifying.
She looked for his phone number and couldn’t find. She asked her friends about him, but no one seemed to know who she was talking about. Lenia thought she might be going insane. She contacted the police and reported her boyfriend missing – but the police told her that there were no records of the person she was looking for.
Was Lenia Insane?
Lenia couldn’t understand what was happening. Though she was convinced she was perfectly sane, she visited a psychiatrist who told her she experienced hallucinations due to stress.
Lenia disagreed. She was convinced something serious had happened. When Lenia visited her family she talked about her sister, but her parents told her the events she mentioned never happened. For example, her family didn’t remember a surgery that was performed on her sister’s shoulder a few months ago. When Lenia asked her sister, she said she had never been operated on.
There were so many things around Lenia that simply did not make sense. It was as if she was talking about events she had been experiencing in another life, another timeline.
So Many Things Didn’t Seem Right
Lenia went to work and even there it was clear her life situation had changed in ways she couldn’t never dream off. She worked for the same company, but in a different department in another part of the building. She said that she felt so disoriented at work, she told her supervisor she was ill and went home. At first it took her some time to find her supervisor – because it was a person she had never met before, although her boss claimed to know her well.
he noticed had the same driving license and her IDs were in order, but so many other things in her life were wrong. She remembered events that people say never happened. Her boyfriend whom she knew well was said never to have existed. Items in her flat were unfamiliar.
Lenia has never been declared mentally ill. Nor is she a drug user or drinker. She is normal woman who told her story to the world, but few believe her. Today, she continues to search for clues.
She thinks she has slipped into another universe that is only slightly different from her ‘home universe’. Lenia has accepted her fate and the possibility that she is stuck in this world and may never be able to go home again.
I wonder what triggered the change.
kind of a be careful what you wish for thing
Now IF all this tineline switch is real, how nice would it be to CONTROL that switch :DThey are probably sitting there going WTF? Just like we are 8)
On the other hand it brings up the question... what happens to the other you that you bump out :D
That article with the lady and the nutmeg 5 times she tried and it wasn't there but on the six attempt it was... it kinda goes along with The Secret... the power of manifestation...That has always been my interpretation; that we create our own daily happenings and can readily influence what happens around us if we believe that we can;
As it stands the Christian already have that in their camp... but they attribute it to a Mystical Being rather than themselves... we are all familiar with the phrase "Ask and Ye Shall receive" The intent is to ask God to grant your wants but what if its not that way at all? My favorite story of Jesus is his insisting that you can move mountains if you but believe you can. Now go ask any Preacher and they will tell you that it was meant metaphorically... that it is simply about Faith, not actually moving a mountain physically...
But if you read in Matthew 21:18-22 New International Version (NIV)
Jesus Curses a Fig Tree
18 Early in the morning, as Jesus was on his way back to the city, he was hungry. 19 Seeing a fig tree by the road, he went up to it but found nothing on it except leaves. Then he said to it, “May you never bear fruit again!” Immediately the tree withered.
20 When the disciples saw this, they were amazed. “How did the fig tree wither so quickly?” they asked.
21 Jesus replied, “Truly I tell you, if you have faith and do not doubt, not only can you do what was done to the fig tree, but also you can say to this mountain, ‘Go, throw yourself into the sea,’ and it will be done. 22 If you believe, you will receive whatever you ask for in prayer.”
I n that phrase the desire is instant... and he reinforces the mountain statement and it is obvious by the fig tree action that HE MEANS IT LITERALLY
YODA: Size matters not. Look at me. Judge me by my size, do you? Hmm? Hmm. And well you should not. For my ally is the Force, and a powerful ally it is. Life creates it, makes it grow. Its energy surrounds us and binds us. Luminous beings are we, not this crude matter. You must feel the Force around you; here, between you, me, the tree, the rock, everywhere, yes. Even between the land and the ship.I am of the mind that several events lead us to this point in space and time;part of it could have been the desire by many for Trump to win; part of it could have been many wanting change of any kind away from what we have been dealing with for the last decade;
LUKE: I don't believe it!
YODA: That is why you fail.
The power of Manifestation SHOULD allow us to jump timelines :D
but now it is poof and there they are.. in another place..Otter, I can't answer for Zorgon other than in a round about way: we didn't make it back; there are too many things that are not right, that have totally changed, and upon asking a lot of the stuff we know as fact has never existed in this timeline...
like Z in texas..
what got you there Z? what were you thinking about before it happened and how did you get back?
I've recently found long scratches on my back in that area that no one can reach without something like a back scratcher. These scratches have now appeared a number of times.That's one more thing you post that I don't think is related to timeline shifts but to something else. I don't know if it's related to you being a contactee or not, but those things sound like "common" paranormal cases.
I have not scratched my back. Someone/something has scratched me. The cat is badly crippled and can no longer jump or leave the floor in any way, so I've eliminated him as the source.
I admit this may be more related to my being a CE5 contactee, but I'm throwing it in here because it might be a timeline issue.
Don't ask for pictures. I don't want any part of my fat ass on the internet.That's always a good policy. :)
I'd have posted this sooner, but I wanted to see if what I'm going to discuss happened again.
I've recently found long scratches on my back in that area that no one can reach without something like a back scratcher. These scratches have now appeared a number of times.
I have not scratched my back. Someone/something has scratched me. The cat is badly crippled and can no longer jump or leave the floor in any way, so I've eliminated him as the source.
I admit this may be more related to my being a CE5 contactee, but I'm throwing it in here because it might be a timeline issue.
Don't ask for pictures. I don't want any part of my fat ass on the internet.
I don't know how John Titor is received here, but he did say something interesting.
He said that when you time travel you never return to the universe from which you came. What happens is that you travel to one of the parallel and infinite universes that exist side by side with your own. He said that each universe is a tiny bit different from the one you're in or you came from.
Makes you wonder if something went wrong somewhere with a black hole or singularity and we are now tripping universes as a result of it.
I'm still thinking CERN is the source. I'm not opposed to science, but this particular project is playing a little too fast and loose with our reality in their search for answers.
The very first time they powered that sucker up they blew those huge magnets right off. I don't think even they know what they did.
It's interesting that people still suspect CERN as the culprit in time travel/universe shifting events.
"CERN started building its very first accelerator in 1957, the Synchrocyclotron, which crashed and smashed its way toward 33 years of service.
CERN now operates several accelerators and one decelerator in a building complex that straddles the Swiss and French border."
CERN's accelerators are just atom smashers.
Their newest collider that came online a few years ago is just the largest one ever built, because it was determined the previous smaller ones did not provide enough resolution in the results.
Time travel or bending has never been one of the results noted. Just pictures of splattered atoms.
The only thing that affects time that has been noted in physics is gravity.
This has been confirmed by 2 atomic clocks placed at different heights.
That being the case one should look to anomalies/experiments in gravity for the culprit.
It could be a black hole gone awry as suggested, but...
the only known human meddling experiment in using gravity to see back in time is project Looking Glass.
This is a fact confirmed by Bob Lazar.
You've missed the part about the ALICE package and black holes. They've admitted they can make them.Did they admit they can make black holes or did they say that, according to some theories, it would be possible, with a more powerful accelerator?
Did they admit they can make black holes or did they say that, according to some theories, it would be possible, with a more powerful accelerator?
You've missed the part about the ALICE package and black holes. They've admitted they can make them. You don't think that could backfire? :o
Well assuming you can create a black hole with a charge and sustain it, then you have the possibility of traveling between the inner and outer horizon.
All of CERN's work takes place on the sub atomic level. Hardly large enough to fit a galaxy or universe through.
The amount of voltage required and present in natural black holes (the big ones) is insanely huge as we discussed earlier in this thread.
To stretch an effect created on a nanoparticle scale up to a universal scale would require herculean acts of physics which we are not capable of.
The Zeta's on the other hand, have proven quite adept with their technology to provide and antimatter reactor the size of a basketball with enough power to amplify subatomic gravity to the point of huge distortion fields.
I just don't think our level of technology has enough ooomph to do any serious damage yet.
Well, the scratches cant be demonic Irene, the copal I am told gets rid of such things with speed; so I am thinking maybe because your a contactee, I cant think of anything else my love.
I think some people do that with images they do not own to make it harder to identify the images.
I see. Here I was hoping I'd gone further down the rabbit hole with my red pill. :POnly two? where is your sense of adventure :P
Not really. I've had enough bizarre for two lifetimes.
Just came across this meme today...Hmm; Luke and Obi-wan trying to change the channel, Anderson Cooper 360 on Crap News Network with a banner Saying Nelson Mandela 1918-2013, and Obi-wan telling Luke that all the channels are poop...
..notice anything?
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i'm at the point of who cares anymore ::)
i'm at the point of who cares anymore
Seems to be a common ailment these days :P::) Really?
Oh well we can always hop on Thorfourwinds band wagon and make the Earth flat again LD
Well assuming you can create a black hole with a charge and sustain it, then you have the possibility of traveling between the inner and outer horizon.
All of CERN's work takes place on the sub atomic level. Hardly large enough to fit a galaxy or universe through.
The amount of voltage required and present in natural black holes (the big ones) is insanely huge as we discussed earlier in this thread.
To stretch an effect created on a nanoparticle scale up to a universal scale would require herculean acts of physics which we are not capable of.
The Zeta's on the other hand, have proven quite adept with their technology to provide an antimatter reactor the size of a basketball with enough power to amplify subatomic gravity to the point of huge distortion fields.
I just don't think our level of technology has enough ooomph to do any serious damage yet.
I don't believe in coincidence. There's a reason that research package is named ALICE.
All I will say is this, I don't believe everything the government of any country tells me, particularly as it relates to military and scientific matters. Especially if it relates to military and scientific matters.
All I will say is this, I don't believe everything the government of any country tells me, particularly as it relates to military and scientific matters. Especially if it relates to military and scientific matters.That's why I always try to talk directly with the scientists instead of relying on what we read.
Yet out of his mouth comes words as if he was being used to transmit a message to me.
Now just recently. Tuesday December 19 2018 I was in Milwaukee in the hospital having cancer removed from my back shoulder.December 2018? ???
December 2018? ???
Can you, or someone else fix that to 2017Done. :)
Thanks
i keep coming back to thoughts of this and of things i have seen and i am leaning towards the explanation of it's all a dimensional bled thru of some type...
i don't have any proof - just my thoughts on it
I am reading a Portuguese translation of Stephen King's "Bag of bones", and found in it a reference to JCPenney, as you can see below.
Since JC PENNEY is the spelling in THIS timeline that paper would be more meaningful if it said JC PENNY :DDoesn't that mean that all evidences will point to this timeline, seeing that's the one we're in?
Doesn't that mean that all evidences will point to this timeline, seeing that's the one we're in?Not necessarily; we do have some evidence from the previous time line, such as Mic's pic of J C Penny, the VHS tape of Star Wars and Sinbad and several more; I am becoming of the opinion that this particular occurrence may have been orchestrated, since it appears that the group of us aware of this seem to have jumped together, but for what purpose or reason?
Not necessarily; we do have some evidence from the previous time line, such as Mic's pic of J C Penny, the VHS tape of Star Wars and Sinbad and several more;What Star Wars tape? ???
Interesting collection of intros, but I did not see the one in which I remember every Sunday afternoon. Large tinkerbell appears on left side with wand and dots the I.
This video is not available to me I get message "This video contains content from Lionsgate, who has blocked it in your country on copyright grounds." So maybe its available in UK Portugal or Australia and we can get a copy and /or screen captureNot available in Portugal either.
THIS is a really old one before she had wings I remember this one :DShe doesn't have wings in the first appearance but has wings in the second.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YSajJ_7HgRU
This video is not available to me I get message "This video contains content from Lionsgate, who has blocked it in your country on copyright grounds." So maybe its available in UK Portugal or Australia and we can get a copy and /or screen captureI found a video with the same name and only one second shorter, so I suppose it's the same. There's the Tinkerbell sequence around 0:54.
Has it occurred to any of you that the time lines glitch/Mandela effect is impossible to prove/disprove.I reached that conclusion some time ago. :)
there is no proof of any of it..That is debatable on some of those things.
The scientist in me and my training are always pushing me to look for objective, reproducible stuff.
objective, reproducible stuffthat is impossible to do.. because the happenings are personal not objective
...Irene hasn't shown 'proof' but i believe her...
I have had a feeling that time has speed up, for me it seemed to start around my 30th birthday, and I really don't believe we are sat in a 24 hour day, I am not sure how long the "real day" is but it is certainly shorter than 24 hours in my realm at least .. cant give real specifics as to what it is that makes me feel this, but I do feel it.You are not alone in this, Zorgon has posted much about it; our "24" hour day is only about 16 hours now or so it feels...
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You are not alone in this, Zorgon has posted much about it; our "24" hour day is only about 16 hours now or so it feels...Not for me. :)
Full disclosure since I'm new to your timeline: I remember the gear thing on the dial being on/at the bottom of the dial - not as elevated - and having more teeth on it. I'm glad I'm not the only one with a 'discrepancy' on this issue.
The relationship between the mind and the brain is a mystery that is central to how we understand our very existence as sentient beings. Some say the mind is strictly a function of the brain — consciousness is the product of firing neurons. But some strive to scientifically understand the existence of a mind independent of, or at least to some degree separate from, the brain.
The peer-reviewed scientific journal NeuroQuantology brings together neuroscience and quantum physics — an interface that some scientists have used to explore this fundamental relationship between mind and brain.
An article published in the September 2017 edition of NeuroQuantology reviews and expands upon the current theories of consciousness that arise from this meeting of neuroscience and quantum physics.
Dr. Dirk K.F. Meijer, a professor at the University of Groningen in the Netherlands, hypothesizes that consciousness resides in a field surrounding the brain. This field is in another dimension. It shares information with the brain through quantum entanglement, among other methods. And it has certain similarities with a black hole.
This field may be able to pick up information from the Earth’s magnetic field, dark energy, and other sources. It then “transmits wave information into the brain tissue, that … is instrumental in high-speed conscious and subconscious information processing,” Dirk wrote.
In other words, the “mind” is a field that exists around the brain; it picks up information from outside the brain and communicates it to the brain in an extremely fast process.
He described this field alternately as “a holographic structured field,” a “receptive mental workspace,” a “meta-cognitive domain,” and the “global memory space of the individual.”
There’s an unsolved mystery in neuroscience called the “binding problem.” Different parts of the brain are responsible for different things: some parts work on processing color, some on processing sound, et cetera. But, it somehow all comes together as a unified perception, or consciousness.
Information comes together and interacts in the brain more quickly than can be explained by our current understanding of neural transmissions in the brain. It thus seems the mind is more than just neurons firing in the brain.
Neuroscientists are still searching for a mechanism for this “binding” of disparate parts of the brain’s information processing. Meijer has turned to quantum entanglement and tunneling for part of the answer.
Quantum entanglement is a phenomenon in which particles appear to be connected over vast distances. When actions are performed on one of the particles, corresponding changes are observed on the others simultaneously.
Quantum tunneling is a phenomenon in which a particle tunnels through a barrier it shouldn’t be able to according to classical physics.
These quantum phenomena allow for processes so rapid, they can’t be explained with classical physics. So they may help explain ultra-fast subconscious mental processes.
Principles of quantum physics may explain how the mind processes information.
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If the “mind” or mental field could interact with the brain this way, it could be a step toward explaining the rapidity of mental processes.
Meijer also uses the wave-particle nature of matter in quantum physics to explain the relationship between the mental field and the brain. Essentially this principle holds that electrons and photons exist in the form of waves, but can also behave like particles. In a manner of speaking, they are both waves and particles.
Similarly, Meijer said the mental field is both non-material and, at the same time, physically part of the brain: “The proposed mental workspace is regarded to be non-material, but in relation to the individual brain, entertains a non-dual wave/particle relation according to quantum physical principles: it is directly dependent on the brain physiology but not reducible to it.”
The mind and the brain, according to Meijer, are connected. They are unified, yet separate. Such an apparent paradox is characteristic of quantum physics.
The mind may reside in another spatial dimension.
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Meijer hypothesizes that the mental field is in another dimension: “That we cannot directly perceive this information aspect is traditionally ascribed to a hidden fourth spatial dimension … which cannot be observed in our 3-D world, but can be mathematically derived.”
He clarified that this fourth spatial dimension is not time (time is commonly described as the “fourth dimension”). Rather, this is a concept of space-time that includes four spatial dimensions, plus time (a “4+1 space-time structure”).
He cited studies that have suggested this concept of dimensions could reconcile the miss-matches between traditional physics and quantum physics that plague scientists today.
The mind would exist in the fourth spatial dimension.
The mind could be like a black hole.
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Meijer envisions a sort of screen or boundary between the outside world and the individual mental field. He likens this boundary to the event horizon of a black hole.
“It is assumed that information entering a black hole from the outside is not lost, but … rather is being projected on its outer screen, called the ‘event horizon,’” Meijer wrote.
“Consciousness is a boundary condition between a singularity (black hole) and space within the brain.” The event horizon separates “a mental model of reality for internal use in each individual” from all that exists outside of it. Yet it is connected to a “universal information matrix.”
Meijer described via email how this “dynamic holographic boundary” collects information from inside the brain as well as from the “information fields in which our brain is permanently embedded.” He said: “In this manner, it is implicitly connected to a universal information matrix.”
The structure of the hypothesized mental field could take the shape of a torus.
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The geometrical shape known as a torus is well suited for the nature and functions Meijer attributes to the mental field.
A torus is described by the Merriam Webster dictionary as, “a doughnut-shaped surface generated by a circle rotated about an axis in its plane that does not intersect the circle.”
Meijer presented various reasons within physics theories for choosing this shape for his hypothesized mental field. One reason is related to a theory of how electrical activity in the brain oscillates.
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The nested torus structure suggested by Dr. Dirk Meijer for the mental field connected to the brain. (Courtesy of Dr. Dirk Meijer)
These rhythms have been compared to microscopic features of the universe, such as those described by String Theory. Meijer described these as “multidimensional torus movements.”
The torus structure is found in physics from the micro-scale to the extreme macro-scale of black holes and the universe as a whole, Meijer explained. It could be instrumental in dynamically integrating information in the mind and brain.
Meijer discusses the broader implications for the philosophy of mind–matter relationships.
Meijer wrote: “Our paper, may directly contribute to an answer on the famous question of [cognitive scientists and philosopher David] Chalmers …: how can something immaterial like subjective experience and self-consciousness arise from a material brain?”
The ability of the mental field to pick up information from other fields, as conceived by Meijer, could also explain some anomalous phenomena, such as extrasensory perception, he noted.
In his view, “Consciousness can be regarded as the most basic building block of nature and consequently is present at all levels of the fabric of reality.”
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Since quantum physics emerged, scientists have been exploring its ability to explain consciousness. Meijer’s work fits within that exploration.
Another theory called “orchestrated objective reduction,” or “Orch-OR,” was developed by physicist Sir Roger Penrose and anesthesiologist Dr. Stuart Hameroff. On his website, Hameroff describes the theory: “… it suggests consciousness arises from quantum vibrations in protein polymers called microtubules inside the brain’s neurons.”
Like Meijer, Penrose and Hameroff have said “there is a connection between the brain’s biomolecular processes and the basic structure of the universe.” They have also called for a major change in how scientists view consciousness.
Hameroff said in an interview with the blog Singularity: “Most scientists can’t explain consciousness in the brain, so they can’t say that consciousness out of the brain is impossible.”
Update: Dr. Dirk Meijer has provided The Epoch Times with an update on his paper, clarifying that quantum tunneling and entanglement are not the most likely methods of information transfer between the mental field and the brain. These two phenomena have been shown to provide only a correlation between two particles, not necessarily information transfer (although that may prove to be the case with further research).
Rather, quantum wave resonance is a more likely mechanism of extremely rapid information processing in the brain. This means, instead of signals being sent between neurons in the brain, a wave pattern that encompasses all neurons, as well as the mental field, transmits the information instantaneously.
Picture a vibration wave going up and down in a consistent pattern and running all through your brain and even outside of it. That pattern communicates information that can be understood by vibratory receptors in your brain. All of this is happening in a dimension and at a microscopic level not directly perceptible through conventional scientific instrumentation at our disposal today, yet can be inferred through physical and mathematical modeling.
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Lately I have noticed that the time goes faster than usual.I wake up in the morning go to work,and the hours past faster and faster. I return home and don't know how my day passed. It's just me? Or is it real! I don't know. Maybe you other ATS members feel the same thing!
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Text It is common to say or hear, that the time "seems" less than before. That year and the day goes by so fast there''s no time to do anything. There seems! Is actually smaller day, on the globe and it is our fault. Changes in Magnetic Resonance of the earth contributes to this. The German physicist Winfried Otto Schumann in 1952 found that the land has a set of peaks with very low frequencies, they are in the magnetic field between the ground aa ionosphere, something like 100km away. Like a pacemaker, a pulse rate averaged 7.83 hertz per second. Has great importance for our health because we are in volts bioelectric in nature in the same waves, changing the heartbeat of the Earth, our amends. All this raises the earth balance. Mother Earth pulsates like a beating heart. But since the years 80 / 90 changed the ecological imbalance that resonance, increasing to approximately 11/13 hertz per second, causing the speed of hours. Consequently been changed daylight hours of 24 are now only 16. And many reputable biologists and scientists say the research saying that Gaia "Earth" is a living superorganism. The text of Leonardo Boff says is true, and that the cause is a violation of nature by man, disrespect and degradation of nature. She also says it will continue, if we stop fighting things that is our own life. Source: www.shvoong.com...
I think that information derived in situ (from this timeline) - for example with a phase conjugating mirror hooked up to a rudimentary AI - can be utilized to make alterations that cause anomalies but which may not incur any 'timeline shift'. It is as much prediction as it is foresight, which could be crucial to understanding this.
Even the articles on ATS are back (I bet ArMaP will say they were never gone :P );D
There was a paper sent to me about a US Army project that was using phase conjugation to predict where bullet were GOING to come from.
imagine the state of ATS in the Hillary Universe.A smoking pile of radioactive rubble; for I firmly believe she would have pushed the button and blown us all to hell and gone...
As an aside: Because of his logos and love of truth, we're lucky we have The Armap in this timeline. Even if his posts are in a state of superposition, they are still good and vital.
Those of us from Timeline A have noticed that THIS ArMaP has a lot bigger sense of humor than the other one :PMy sense of humour hasn't changed, I just take a long time to feel at ease in one place, either on the Internet or in real life, so it takes me some years to show my real personality. :)
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I think ArMaP is a really swell guy. (at least his avatar/image is "guy oriented".)Thanks. :)
There are no time lines, , , ,
Your version of reality doesn't account for Quantum Entanglement. There are endless multiverses out there :DYes indeed, plus now they are integrating string theory with quantam theory; endless multi-dimensional multiverses complete with multiple copies of each of us...
To me, all this "time glitch" thing is just a way of people not admitting that they were wrong. :P
Funny thing is that we A Liners :P actually find THIS ArMaP more amusing and less stuck up than the other one LOLThat's because I have really changed my online personality a little, so now it represents better how I am in real life. Also, some changes in my life have made me change how I interact with other people, so now I interact a little more with other people than I used to do.
Since you are also not willing to accept the possibility that we are correct and that thousands of people round the world have experienced this, with the SAME memories and shock to learn there has been a change, I would say that your opinions on the matter don't really count for much in this case.When did I say that?
He is a good friend of John Lear and he finally gave me his card. He takes this timeline issue up another level.I hope to see his findings soon, unless he publishes them on a different time line. :)
The next moment we were on an on ramp to the freeway 10 miles from the town heading back the way we came... at point C on the second screen cap. Experienced a few minutes of head spinning nausea until I got my bearings. Continued on to the next exit at San Jon to turn around... (it was after we turned back we saw the mileage sign "Tucumcari 10 Miles"
So now we were low on gas and I had to stop at the Flying J (shows on my bank statement as I used the debit card)
The following two screenshots from Google maps show the three key points of the incidence. A is the exit we took off the freeway. Finding no gas station open we continued down Main Street back towards the freeway and the Flying J station. We turned right towards the freeway at point B..
The incident began when I was looking for a gas station and the next station was a Flying J in Tucumcari, New Mexico. Now I don't have a card for them and still had enough gas to get a few more towns so we skipped it. Around the next bend saw a nice new looking SHELL gas station ahead sign... So we exited the freeway and turned back towards town now on Main Street, which is an old section of the Infamous Route 66
Tucumcari, New Mexico 88401
June 30th 2016
Last June my daughter and I went to visit my ex wife in Houston Texas for a week. Drove down to bring her the rest of her stuff... that was a fun trip (not :P ) Heavy load, last a couple tires on the trailer. On the way home, the trip was more pleasant as we had no deadline to get back and did some sight seeing...
The incident began when I was looking for a gas station and the next station was a Flying J in Tucumcari, New Mexico. Now I don't have a card for them and still had enough gas to get a few more towns so we skipped it. Around the next bend saw a nice new looking SHELL gas station ahead sign... So we exited the freeway and turned back towards town now on Main Street, which is an old section of the Infamous Route 66
Well Tucumcari, New Mexico is mostly a Ghost Town...
(http://www.thelivingmoon.com/41pegasus/04images/Time/Downtown%20Tucumcari%20NM_2841-S.jpg)
Downtown Tucumcari, New MexicoCredit: DGHPhoto
That gas station? Not so new LOL
(http://www.thelivingmoon.com/41pegasus/04images/Time/DSC_0695a.jpg)
Credit: Dr Bob's Route 66 Motorcycle Ride
The following two screenshots from Google maps show the three key points of the incidence. A is the exit we took off the freeway. Finding no gas station open we continued down Main Street back towards the freeway and the Flying J station. We turned right towards the freeway at point B...
The next moment we were on an on ramp to the freeway 10 miles from the town heading back the way we came... at point C on the second screen cap. Experienced a few minutes of head spinning nausea until I got my bearings. Continued on to the next exit at San Jon to turn around... (it was after we turned back we saw the mileage sign "Tucumcari 10 Miles"
So now we were low on gas and I had to stop at the Flying J (shows on my bank statement as I used the debit card)
(http://www.thelivingmoon.com/41pegasus/04images/Time/Card_01.png)
(http://www.thelivingmoon.com/41pegasus/04images/Time/NM-001.png)
Point A: Exited the Freeway - Point B Turned off Main Street towards Freeway
(http://www.thelivingmoon.com/41pegasus/04images/Time/NM_002.png)
Point C: Where we suddenly ended up back on Freeway going back the way we came.
That gray on ramp was where we 'reappeared' and thought we were in the right direction
After filling up and getting back on the Freeway... there were no more incidents the rest of the trip home...
My sense of humour hasn't changed, I just take a long time to feel at ease in one place, either on the Internet or in real life, so it takes me some years to show my real personality. :)
Twos ways and thats a very long way! Are you sure that the jouney had not effected you :)
When you came of the 40 HW...to turn to Tucumcari town... at what ever junction at "point "A" on your map..what Roads did you take to get to point "B" ?
Looking at the map... I see a few possibilites.. but I suspect that it maybe this Route.
onto Tucumcari Blvd then onto West Railway Ave and onto East Main Street that then leads to "Point B" This is then on Mountain Road...
Below is your initial explanation...when your looking for a gas station..and you say the next station was a Flying J... so I assume this is while your on HW 40 appoaching Tucimicari...But you say you did not have a card for it, so skipped it to look for another gas station.
How was you aware of the Flying J gas station... was there a sign for it on the HW 40 or was it shown on say your map or shown on your built in car route planner..
But you then say around the bend.. that you noticed a Shell Gas Station ahead sign.
so you then exited the freeway and TURNED BACK !... so That I assume that you were heading WEST back to Las Vegas..coming from further East Texas rds that Connected to Highways that came from Houston. then when you came of that Junction you were then heading into town going the opposite direction. so I assume you seen signs for those Gas Stations before you turn off at Point A.
Point B is shown as at or on Mountain Rd.. so it appears that you did travel down this Road and in the end did find or notice Flying J Gas Station that was just before getting back on HW 40 at what seemed the next prior Junction.
Using Google Street View..First thing you see is the now long abandoned SHELL STATION (https://www.google.com/maps/@35.1575293,-103.7749439,3a,21.8y,83.95h,90.26t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s7BpcpjUhfL2PbsYjkGQ67g!2e0!7i13312!8i6656) andI don't know if it makes any difference, but those photos, apparently, are from October 2015.
abandoned restaurant (https://www.google.com/maps/@35.1589957,-103.7715124,3a,75y,150h,86.16t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s4VvmHMAD0BhLXu4nhrKuzw!2e0!7i13312!8i6656)
Just watching moonraker and its changed wtf? Jaws girlfriend smiles and now doesn’t have a brace on her teeth? Am I going mad? Seriously cant anyone remember she used to have a brace last time I watched it!! It don’t make sense now? That’s the point he’s jaws and she had a brace on?
Opposite my corner there was a huge new home with mounds of dirt in the yard, not landscaped and nothing else there but that huge house and a port-a-biffy.When did that happen?
When did that happen?
When did that happen?
It's not surprising, Irene 8) I travel quite regularly on hwy 101 to a monthly auction in Rome Ga, been driving that road for many years, it is rural, with several small named communities, one in particular is Aragon, not much more than a wide spot in the road;
Within the last two weeks .
I know what's coming.Nothing is coming, I only noticed the information was incomplete. :)
Therefore, and henchforth, you shall be known, by me, as Captain Incredulous, or CI.
Nothing is coming, I only noticed the information was incomplete. :)