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Title: NASA & UFO
Post by: thorfourwinds on February 26, 2015, 10:30:06 am
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Published on Feb 8, 2013

Hello,

This is a compilation of FAR-UV and INFRARED recordings from the spaceshuttle and the ISS. Some of this material is extremely rare and you may not have seen it before.

The videos are made available by "secretnasaman" a.k.a. Martyn Stubbs (http://www.thelivingmoon.com/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=1105).

This is the kind of film material I consider as compelling evidence that earth is visited.

You see UFO come and go. NASA zooms in on them, follows them and somehow this already looks like a routine job for the camera operator. NASA knows exactly when and how to aim cameras at certain positions on Earth, as if they are expecting something to happen. On the other hand, so much happens that it is very diffcult to miss something.

An entire fleet of UFO is swarming around us.

So why don't we see them on NASA TV?

That is because NASA no longer transmits FAR-UV and IR camera feeds. NASA stopped right after the STS-75 tether incident, which almost exposed NASA. Unfortunately neither science nor the (international) media showed any interest and bought NASA's absurd explanation that we saw ice-particles.

It was THE TIME TO ACT as we caught NASA with their pants down but we did not do anything so they got away with it.

Nowadays NASA only allows to view manipulated footage in the visible light spectrum. What is the manipulation you might ask. Well, live-transmissions are not LIVE but integral transmissions with 20-30 seconds delay. The gamma and contrast levels have been reduced artificially so we cannot see any objects with faint light (UFO - fast walkers, slow walkers, tether type and donut type) in the background.

Cameras no longer point towards space but always towards earth and the bigger part of the screen is filled with 3/4 of space-station or equipment. This way the operator, who has a much wider view, does not caught by surprise. Many 'night-time" transmissions, when the crew is asleep have been cancelled as previously one could see many UFO of the 3rd phenomenae and that is something NASA does not like at all. (see my other videos with detailed close-ups).

During a space-walk in total darkness, colours are re-adjusted and contrast and gamma increased so the UFO are not visible: a reverse - most effective strategy. Instead of beautiful night transmissions NASA feeds us with hideous regular signal-loss screens.

After this happened a couple times too much I switched to another "channel" and guess what, there was the exact same transmission but on this channel there was no signal-loss but a clear view of UFO swarming around the station.

I have hundreds of hours of material and will gradually upload all. Now enjoy these very special "lost" transmissions, which are true classics.

Greetz,

Sander
Title: Re: NASA & UFO
Post by: ArMaP on February 26, 2015, 01:36:36 pm
As I don't have more than one hour to spend looking at this I only looked at three or four different parts, and neither looked like they were using a special UV or IR camera, those look like videos from the normal cameras.

Knowing the missions it's probably possible to know if they had UV and/or IR cameras aboard.
Title: Re: NASA & UFO
Post by: 1967sander on February 26, 2015, 01:57:16 pm
As I don't have more than one hour to spend looking at this I only looked at three or four different parts, and neither looked like they were using a special UV or IR camera, those look like videos from the normal cameras.

Knowing the missions it's probably possible to know if they had UV and/or IR cameras aboard.

NASA camera's constantly look in a various spectra. Infrared, visual light and several ultraviolet ranges. They never stopped doing this. Only difference today is that NASA no longer shares these recordings with us.
When you would view the video than you would have heard saying the NASA spokeswoman that NASA shows Far UV recordings. So it is not just probably possible but a given fact that they carry IR and UV equipment.
Title: Re: NASA & UFO
Post by: ArMaP on February 26, 2015, 02:04:55 pm
NASA camera's constantly look in a various spectra.
Could you point to some place where I can get a confirmation of that?

Thanks in advance. :)

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When you would view the video than you would have heard saying the NASA spokeswoman that NASA shows Far UV recordings. So it is not just probably possible but a given fact that they carry IR and UV equipment.
I know (as far as I can know such things) that they carried UV and IR cameras for specific missions. For far UV the lens must be different, as normal lens glass blocks UV light.
Title: Re: NASA & UFO
Post by: 1967sander on February 28, 2015, 02:13:44 am
Could you point to some place where I can get a confirmation of that?



Thanks in advance. :)
I know (as far as I can know such things) that they carried UV and IR cameras for specific missions. For far UV the lens must be different, as normal lens glass blocks UV light.

Title: Re: NASA & UFO
Post by: Toltec on February 28, 2015, 03:49:55 am
Thefourwinds: Thanks :)
Title: Re: NASA & UFO
Post by: Pimander on February 28, 2015, 06:07:35 am
It is time to find out more about the Russian Far UV capable spacecraft methinks.

ArMaP, there is some interesting viewing at around 8 minutes but it may not be Far UV, I'm not sure.

Could someone note at what time the interesting material is so we can discuss.  Just saying wow is not really analysis.

Thanks for putting this together Sander. :)
Title: Re: NASA & UFO
Post by: zorgon on February 28, 2015, 01:50:10 pm
NASA camera's constantly look in a various spectra. Infrared, visual light and several ultraviolet ranges. They never stopped doing this. Only difference today is that NASA no longer shares these recordings with us.

NASA didn't share those back then either  SecretNasaMan Martyn  (who is a member here) intercepted those transmission with a TV satellite station in Canada  Without him we would never have seen the STS 75 critter footage and others

Its on my list to get all his early videos onto the website  but that is not done yet

We even set up a section for him here 

SecretNasaMan's Room
Martyn Stubbs AKA SecretNasaMan is responsible for most of the NASA UFO footage being made public. He intercepted the signals using a commercial satellite receiver. Many of the videos are not available from NASA
Moderator: Martyn Stubbs
http://www.thelivingmoon.com/forum/index.php?board=98.0
Title: Re: NASA & UFO
Post by: zorgon on February 28, 2015, 02:42:33 pm
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qycsb3mrTdc
Title: Re: NASA & UFO
Post by: Toltec on March 01, 2015, 01:17:09 am
A NASA, according to my opinion, what worries are biological entities that can cause problems (military)
The critters (donut-ufo) are probably species conparten land along with others, but harmless (for now).
Also I guess his EGO (NASA) is upset that some species are out of their control.
Title: Re: NASA & UFO
Post by: ArMaP on March 01, 2015, 06:33:46 am
ArMaP, there is some interesting viewing at around 8 minutes but it may not be Far UV, I'm not sure.
If I'm not mistaken, that part of the video shows images from STS-75, the famous tether mission.

On that mission the Space Shuttle had an UV camera, but it was the Tether Optical Phenomenon (TOP) camera, and its videos look like this:
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1y-ekg8wIH0[/youtube]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1y-ekg8wIH0

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lkxKnezmQtU

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dwAkdxf7WfE[/youtube]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dwAkdxf7WfE
Title: Re: NASA & UFO
Post by: Pimander on March 02, 2015, 03:33:19 am
Yes ArMaP,  after looking again I recognise the tether sequence video.

DepthOfField on ATS tried to explain it all away as ice particles.  However, the changes of direction were never adequately explained.  That part is ignored by debunkers.

[youtube]UKqGLXmSu7s[/youtube]
Title: Re: NASA & UFO
Post by: ArMaP on March 02, 2015, 05:16:05 am
DepthOfField on ATS tried to explain it all away as ice particles.  However, the changes of direction were never adequately explained.  That part is ignored by debunkers.
Yes, the unexplained thing about the ice crystals theory is the changes of directions, but, as far as I remember, the changes in direction do not happen in all directions, as if they were just moving randomly, but only in some directions, as if there was a specific (but unknown, at least by me) force that made the objects change direction.
Title: Re: NASA & UFO
Post by: Pimander on March 02, 2015, 05:27:51 am
At5 about 6m55s in the above video some of the changes in direction are visible.  the fact that there are changes in more than one direction could suggest that the movements are propelled by the objects themselves and not an outside force.  There is no "wind" or similar force that could do that in space surely.
Title: Re: NASA & UFO
Post by: ArMaP on March 02, 2015, 06:48:51 am
At5 about 6m55s in the above video some of the changes in direction are visible.  the fact that there are changes in more than one direction could suggest that the movements are propelled by the objects themselves and not an outside force.  There is no "wind" or similar force that could do that in space surely.
My question is why are almost all changes in direction from up to down?
Title: Re: NASA & UFO
Post by: starwarp2000 on March 02, 2015, 10:49:57 am
At5 about 6m55s in the above video some of the changes in direction are visible.  the fact that there are changes in more than one direction could suggest that the movements are propelled by the objects themselves and not an outside force.  There is no "wind" or similar force that could do that in space surely.

Isn't there a constant Solar Flux impinging the Earth? The atmosphere of the Earth extends nearly half way to the Moon, albeit very thin out there. The last measurement of the Current Arc from the Sun to the Polar regions of the Earth was 6.8 Billion Amps. Jupiter is 7 trillion!
With all that current there is sure to be a Lorentz component, that would propel an object perpendicular to both the Current Vector and Motional Vector.
Not enough is known about Electricity in Space, as the recent Rosetta Mission has eloquently shown. Physicists, instead of reassessing their obviously false theories, they have instead rehashed their current theories. Observation has become detached from Theory. So is it any surprise that weird phenomena can not be explained by science?
Title: Re: NASA & UFO
Post by: starwarp2000 on March 02, 2015, 11:07:51 am
My question is why are almost all changes in direction from up to down?

Because the Electric Field Vector is always a normal to the Surface, therefore only allowing up/down motion?

http://farside.ph.utexas.edu/teaching/em/lectures/node59.html (http://farside.ph.utexas.edu/teaching/em/lectures/node59.html)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Normal_%28geometry%29 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Normal_%28geometry%29)
Title: Re: NASA & UFO
Post by: Pimander on March 02, 2015, 02:55:55 pm
You could be right, Starwarp.  The jury is definitely still out on LEO phenomena.

I reckon we should send out own UV camera up.  :)
Title: Re: NASA & UFO
Post by: Pimander on March 02, 2015, 03:50:14 pm
I'm not sure that the normal is the camera normal though if you see what I mean?
Title: Re: NASA & UFO
Post by: zorgon on March 02, 2015, 04:18:38 pm
You could be right, Starwarp.  The jury is definitely still out on LEO phenomena.

Back at ATS Jim Oberg of all people linked me to a file from NASA from the late 60's about the "Plasma phemnomena that plagued their spacecraft

Back when the STS-75 gave us swarms of Critters :P and a Fluorescent Tube called the Tether :P  NASA published press releases  Here is ONE

EARLY FINDINGS FROM TETHERED SATELLITE MISSION
POINT TO REVAMPING OF SPACE PHYSICS THEORIES
RELEASE: 96-43

Numerous space physics and plasma theories are being revised or overturned by data gathered during the Tethered Satellite System Reflight (TSS-1R) experiments on Space Shuttle Columbia’s STS-75 mission last March.

Models, accepted by scientists for more than 30 years, are incorrect and must be rewritten. This assessment follows analysis by a joint U.S.-Italian Tethered Satellite investigating team of the information gathered during the mission.

Source: Marshal  Marshall Space Flight Center, Press Release

Models, accepted by scientists for more than 30 years, are incorrect and must be rewritten.

That pretty much covers it THEY don't know either

Skeptics even tried to use Earth's gravity to explain some of the motions like the curved trajectories.  But gravity would not have such a large effect over a short time (minutes) on a (supposedly) small speck of dust that is moving at orbital speed.

Skeptic scream and stomp their feet saying the tether was NOT glowing, it was a thin wire reflecting light

Yet the report put out after the incident says ;

"Incidentally, the tether continued arcing long after it and its satellite were drifting free, until finally it went into night conditions where the electron density was insufficient to sustain the arc."

"However, the air trapped in the insulation changed that. As it bubbled out of the pinholes, the high voltage ("electric pressure") of the nearby tether, about 3500 volts, converted it into a plasma (in a way similar to the ignition of a fluorescent tube), a relatively dense one and therefore a much better conductor of electricity."

Those excerpts are direct from NASA To me there is no further point of discussion on the "GLOW" of the tether after reading the NASA 367 page LEO Charging Guidelines report

Source
NASA/TP—2003-21228
Low Earth Orbit Spacecraft Charging Design Guidelines


All this is documented on several pages on Livingmoon :P
Title: Re: NASA & UFO
Post by: zorgon on March 02, 2015, 04:24:55 pm
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Transcript from Report

"Its called an Electrodynamic Tether designed to collect high energy electrons in the Earth's ionosphere and electromagnetic field. The motion of the tether across the Earth's magnetic field produces a voltage along the 12 mile tether.

Utilizing estimates in the charged density of the earths electromagnetic field and the ionosphere the voltage produces is expected to be several hundred volts per kilometer. If successful this experiment could produce a lot of electrical power. If additional power is driven along the tether in the opposite direction to that in which it normally wants to flow the tether in theory could push negating propulsion against the Earth's gravity to raise the shuttles orbit.

The advantage to this revolutionary advance in propulsion is that it does not require any rocket fuel If successful electrodynamic tethers could prove a way to greatly decrease the cost of in space propulsion. For example the ISS could keep itself in orbit saving nearly 2 billion dollars in orbit reboost rocket fuel for every 10 years of the stations operation

But on Feb. 25 after the 12 mile tether began producing electricity an unexpected overload in electrical energy fluctuating between 2 and 10 times that which predicted due to inaccurate estimates in the electrical charge in the earths magnetic field, ionosphere, and possibly space radiation fried the tethers conductor cable and it broke severing it from the space shuttle..."

The conclusion was that a simple circuit breaker that would have cost a few hundred dollars would have prevented the loss of a 100 Million dollar satellites :P

The report covers a LOT of material about electricity in orbit  like when an Astronaut is not tethered to the spacecraft he can generate potential charges enough to fry him when he returns. Same when two spacecraft dock

Plasma arc in progress   

(http://www.thelivingmoon.com/41pegasus/04images/Tether/Arc_002.png)

Damaged panels

(http://www.thelivingmoon.com/41pegasus/04images/Tether/Arc_003.png)

(http://www.thelivingmoon.com/41pegasus/04images/Tether/Arc_001.png)


Piece of plate from the shuttle bay after the tether arcing broke the line..

(http://www.thelivingmoon.com/41pegasus/04images/Tether/Arc_004.png)


Perhaps it is better to find actual reports than collect info on the regular internet

Just sayin :P
Title: Re: NASA & UFO
Post by: Pimander on March 02, 2015, 04:32:23 pm
Some of those guys are not real sceptics, they are deniers.  I know the difference.  I have no problem with genuine scepticism but I hate denial for its own sake.  It bores me and does rational thought a disservice.


I have contacted Jim about Russian UV cameras as he is the big cheese on the Russian program and can read Russian.  The Russians always have several Cosmonauts up there so they should have tons of data.

Some of the UV images seem to confuse NASA.  The one where they try to find Mir is hilarious.  There is so much visible they are lost. ::)
Title: Re: NASA & UFO
Post by: zorgon on March 02, 2015, 04:39:18 pm
Some of the UV images seem to confuse NASA.  The one where they try to find Mir is hilarious.  There is so much visible they are lost. ::)

That was always my favorite LOL   NASA cannot find MIR

NASA loses the Apollo Tapes
NASA loses the Lunar Orbiter tape
NASA forgot how to go to the moon and is reverse enginnering the Saturn V

NASA Scientists stumped over Rover malfunctioning that corrected itself

(http://www.thelivingmoon.com/45jack_files/04images/Astronauts/mars_rover_poof.jpg)

NASA scientist  after blowing up a comet  :P  "Jeez, and we thought it was going to be subtle!" marveled comet expert Donald Yeomans as images of the impact were received at the Jet Propulsion Laboratory. "We've had a far bigger explosion than we anticipated. ... I can't imagine how this could go any better." And they had no idea why there was a secondary LARGER explosion   

(http://www.thelivingmoon.com/41pegasus/04images/Spaceships/Deep_impact_cheer_nasa.jpg)

I am seeing a pattern :P
Title: Re: NASA & UFO
Post by: ArMaP on March 02, 2015, 04:43:38 pm
Because the Electric Field Vector is always a normal to the Surface, therefore only allowing up/down motion?

http://farside.ph.utexas.edu/teaching/em/lectures/node59.html (http://farside.ph.utexas.edu/teaching/em/lectures/node59.html)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Normal_%28geometry%29 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Normal_%28geometry%29)
Well, although most changes are from up to down we can also other changes, those are only the most common.
Title: Re: NASA & UFO
Post by: starwarp2000 on March 05, 2015, 02:45:18 pm
I'm not sure that the normal is the camera normal though if you see what I mean?

I'm not sure about the ISS, but on the Space Shuttle every piece of Avionic equipment that relies on orientation is aligned to the 'Bore Line' of the aircraft. To ascertain the angular orientation of a photograph, one has to know the angle of the aircrafts boreline with respect to its reference (usually the Earths surface) and add or subtract (depending on orientation) the angle of the camera from ref. 0 (zero). I doubt any of this would be instrumented on any video image and I am sure that the details pertaining to the ISS would be deeply classified!
Title: Re: NASA & UFO
Post by: Pimander on March 05, 2015, 06:39:39 pm
I doubt any of this would be instrumented on any video image and I am sure that the details pertaining to the ISS would be deeply classified!
Agreed.

I have tried to guesstimate orientation of the craft based on views of the Earth during video segments  but it is practically impossible to have any confidence in my guesswork..
Title: Re: NASA & UFO
Post by: zorgon on March 05, 2015, 07:55:10 pm
Well we can ask the Russians :P

NASA secure? Well not so much...  make you wonder how they keep Aliens a secret. To bad we didn't get hold of this..

Stolen NASA laptop contained space station control codes

A laptop stolen from NASA last year was unencrypted and contained command and control codes for the International Space Station on it, the agency's inspector general told a House subcommittee Wednesday.

In his testimony before a House Science, Space and Technology subcommittee, NASA Inspector General Paul Martin said the notebook computer stolen in March 2011 "resulted in the loss of the algorithms" used to control the space station. This particular laptop, Martin said, was one of 48 NASA notebooks or mobile devices stolen between April 2009 and April 2011.

Some of these thefts resulted in the leak of sensitive data "including export-controlled, Personally Identifiable Information, and third-party intellectual property," as well as Social Security numbers and data on NASA's Constellation and Orion programs, Martin said. [NASA Computer Hacked, Satellite Data Accessed]
The actual number of stolen and compromised devices could be much higher because NASA relies on employees to self-report incidents.

In an email, NASA spokesman Trent Perrotto told SecurityNewsDaily that "at no point in time have operations of the International Space Station been in jeopardy due to a data breach."

"NASA has made significant progress to better protect the agency's IT systems and is in the process of implementing the recommendations made by the NASA Inspector General in this area," Perotto added.
In 2011, NASA, which Martin rightly called a "target-rich environment for cyberattacks," was the target of 47 advanced persistent threats, 13 of which successfully compromised NASA computers.

http://www.nbcnews.com/id/46591964/ns/technology_and_science-security/t/stolen-nasa-laptop-contained-space-station-control-codes/#.VPkXGXzF8rV


Title: Re: NASA & UFO
Post by: space otter on March 05, 2015, 10:00:56 pm



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PZb0CF_Isj8


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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PZb0CF_Isj8[/youtube]
Title: Re: NASA & UFO
Post by: Toltec on March 06, 2015, 01:17:13 am
Most pictures of Mars seem parehidolias, but the space, orbital station, I think they are not parehidolias ...
My question is: why do we see life on earth ?, like life in the universe has infinite ways or forms and need not be equal to the earth Mars, that's anthropocentrism.
regards
Title: Re: NASA & UFO
Post by: zorgon on March 06, 2015, 02:50:09 am
Most pictures of Mars seem parehidolias,

pareidolia is the excuse skeptics use a lot and it is true that a lot of Mars images are pareidolia, expecially the extreme enhanced or zoomed in or blurred ones

But some EVERYONE sees..

Like THIS face on Mars 

(http://www.thelivingmoon.com/43ancients/04images/Mars4/Face2/Face02_c.png)

Now that face is really there... the only question is  is it NATRURAL or CREATED?

There is this one on Earth Near Medicine Hat Alberta Canada... the area is sacred grounds to Natives  so is this NATURAL or is a SPIRIT showing itself?

(http://www.moillusions.com/wp-content/uploads/i207.photobucket.com/albums/bb234/vurdlak8/illusions/indianipod_wideweb__470x3350.jpg)

I have a huge collection of images like this  ALL are there... everyone that looks at them sees the same thing so its not simple pareidolia.  It could be a natural coincidence but it is what our ancestors saw and assigned spirits to them

I have see so many that literally look back at you (like the Mars image above. It is easy to believe there is more to it.  And when you can summon a Dragon to appear in the clouds, you no longer doubt

(http://www.thelivingmoon.com/43ancients/04images/Earth/Eyes/MonumentRocks_KSa.jpg)

No that is not photoshop  that was an award winning photo that everyone saw the Dragon in :P
Title: Re: NASA & UFO
Post by: zorgon on March 06, 2015, 03:00:43 am
My question is: why do we see life on earth ?, like life in the universe has infinite ways or forms and need not be equal to the earth Mars, that's anthropocentrism.

We have only lief on Earth to use as a reference.  We also have stories of Alien races that have become as clear as reality even though we have no proof

Our arrogance tends to want to assume we are the highest form of evolution.   "And God said Let US make Man in OUR image, in OUR Likeness"

This is what we do  we assume that basically they are similar to us. It is hard to imagine an octopus build space craft so we have decided that two legs two hands is the best form to build interstellar craft  even if they look a tad different like G'Kar

(http://static.dutplanet.net/imgcache/cast/thetvdb/sc1/3681.jpg)

But since the Universe is so huge... why could their not be similar life forms out there? Chemicals and elements are limited (about 126ish in all)  Since chemical combinations work in specific ways  it is logical to assume that  repeats will occur

Water is a good example  No matter where you are in the Universe when you put hydrogen and oxygen in the same room you will have water 

And the other factor (not counting a creator God) is that we could have been seeded here and thus LITERALLY "Let US make Man in OUR image, in OUR Likeness"

Title: Re: NASA & UFO
Post by: Pimander on March 06, 2015, 12:23:00 pm
Well we can ask the Russians :P
I asked James Oberg via the email address on his website for info on Russian UV capable cameras in LEO.  No response yet.  I need to get hold of him on ATS but I'll have to re-register as a member.  :-\

I can't see a rule saying I can't so....  :P   ;)
Title: Re: NASA & UFO
Post by: Toltec on March 06, 2015, 02:41:56 pm
Zorgon:
 G. I .Gurdjieff, I was saying, that in the universe the laws were the same but which manifested in different ways. There are probably thousands of shapes and technological capacity. Others like critters TETHER incident and others are inorganic but conscious entities.
As you say there are probably a limited number of combinations…