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Re: Do Citizens of Earth Have the Right to a Radiation-free Environment?
« Reply #135 on: December 12, 2014, 12:43:26 pm »
I'm curious on this. What is it anyone sees the world could do at this point, that they are both willing to consider and able to accomplish?

This has been my point all along There is no current technology that we have that can fix this and make it go away.

The only thing we can do is try to get the message out that we need to prevent MORE of these in the near future. Most of the nuke plants in the world are OLD Metal fatigue especially in the presence of radiation is a real threat but all that waste being stored on site...

When does it reach critical mass?

So many stories never even make the news... we usually only here the big ones like Three Mile Island or Chernobyl

And the sarcophagus at Chernobyl was designed to last 25 years. Its been 28 now... and is crumbling. Chernobyl will be hot for another 100,000 years At least they are building a new cover for that


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Japan won't have their national soil become the project area of a world effort, and I do believe they would go to outright military conflict ..with what they have to do it with...to prevent that. These days..that means the hand wringers in the UN would be stopped cold in their tracks by the mere suggestion of it.

Japan even refused the money Red Cross collected  BILLIONS... Wonder where all that cash went

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More importantly though...I really do ask no one in particular, if the cores have passed through containment and gone below grade? Just what can be done? They can't be contained from below, as the water table is basically at grade there. After all, look at the geography of the site.

There is NOTHING that can be done. They cannot even cover it like Chernobyl because of that water table. It will just leak. At least the China Syndrome that was feared in the early days won't happen

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They could obliterate and vaporize the site, to release the mess by volume of material, and in one shot to deal with ..or they can let us die slow, on the installment plan, for decades or more to come. I favor the first approach to solve a problem, however large it may be to attack. They seem to have settled for the second approach tho ...and so...my  son's children will still be arguing over this mess after untold numbers have died from it in the mean time.


Yes a slow poison but nature will evolve (or mutate)  Mother Nature has time on her side.  The Dino's ruled for over 400 million years... Hu-mons a mere drop in the bucket... but we are a tenacious lot. Many will die but many will survive and adapt

There are Russians at Chernobyl that are immune to it. They have gone back inside in a recent documentary I posted.

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What a mess.

Yes it is  I did find it interesting that ex Prime Minister Naoto Kan did make that speech (apology) to the world (albeit via video) and told us what we already knew... that they had three full meltdowns 8 hours after the event

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Re: Do Citizens of Earth Have the Right to a Radiation-free Environment?
« Reply #136 on: December 16, 2014, 02:31:37 pm »
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Re: Do Citizens of Earth Have the Right to a Radiation-free Environment?
« Reply #137 on: December 16, 2014, 03:07:47 pm »
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Re: Do Citizens of Earth Have the Right to a Radiation-free Environment?
« Reply #138 on: December 16, 2014, 03:48:21 pm »
radiation spla-diation

it's everywhere so why bother thinking about it
we're all gonna die...

 (just thought I would go along with the gloom and doom theme) :P




http://radonkills.blogspot.com/2005/09/where-is-radon-found.html
In terms of geography, radon can occur pretty much anywhere. But, regions with granitic soils seem to be the most prone. In North America, for example, states like Florida and the majority of Texas are at a low risk of radon gas, while Montana or Maine are almost uniformly areas of high radon potential. Broadly, then, we could say that the radon risk in the United States is higher in the North than in the South. However, we should always be wary of making such blanket statements. It's a good idea to take a look at the EPA's radon map of America, no matter where you live!










http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radon

Radon is a chemical element with symbol Rn and atomic number 86. It is a radioactive, colorless, odorless, tasteless[2] noble gas, occurring naturally as an indirect decay product of uranium or thorium. Its most stable isotope, 222Rn, has a half-life of 3.8 days. Radon is one of the densest substances that remains a gas under normal conditions. It is also the only gas under normal conditions that only has radioactive isotopes, and is considered a health hazard due to its radioactivity. Intense radioactivity has also hindered chemical studies of radon and only a few compounds are known.

Radon is formed as one intermediate step in the normal radioactive decay chains, through which thorium and uranium slowly decay into lead. Thorium and uranium are the two most common radioactive elements on earth; they have been around since the earth was formed. Their naturally occurring isotopes have very long half-lives, on the order of billions of years. Thorium and uranium, their decay product radium, and its decay product radon, will therefore continue to occur for tens of millions of years at almost the same concentrations as they do now.[3] As radon itself decays, it produces new radioactive elements called radon daughters or decay products. Unlike the gaseous radon itself, radon daughters are solids and stick to surfaces, such as dust particles in the air. If such contaminated dust is inhaled, these particles can stick to the airways of the lung and increase the risk of developing lung cancer.[4]

Unlike all the other intermediate elements in the aforementioned decay chains, radon is gaseous and easily inhaled. Thus, even in this age of nuclear reactors, naturally-occurring radon is responsible for the majority of the public exposure to ionizing radiation. It is often the single largest contributor to an individual's background radiation dose, and is the most variable from location to location. Despite its short lifetime, some radon gas from natural sources can accumulate to far higher than normal concentrations in buildings, especially in low areas such as basements and crawl spaces due to its heavy nature. It can also be found in some spring waters and hot springs.[5]

Epidemiological studies have shown a clear link between breathing high concentrations of radon and incidence of lung cancer. Thus, radon is considered a significant contaminant that affects indoor air quality worldwide. According to the United States Environmental Protection Agency, radon is the second most frequent cause of lung cancer, after cigarette smoking, causing 21,000 lung cancer deaths per year in the United States. About 2,900 of these deaths occur among people who have never smoked. While radon is the second most frequent cause of lung cancer, it is the number one cause among non-smokers, according to EPA estimates.[6]





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Re: Do Citizens of Earth Have the Right to a Radiation-free Environment?
« Reply #139 on: December 16, 2014, 06:01:37 pm »

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The reading for two rock trout, caught about 20 kilometers to the north of the plant, showed 25,800 becquerels per kilogram, the highest yet detected in surveys conducted after last year's nuclear accident.

Consuming 200 grams of the fish would amount to an internal radiation exposure of 0.08 millisievert for a human. The annual safety limit for radiation exposure from food products is 1 millisievert per person.

"The reading was way beyond the levels recorded before," said Tetsu Nozaki, who heads the Fukushima Prefectural Federation of Fisheries Co-operative Associations. "It is worrying."

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Radioactive cesium exceeding the government's allowable safety level of 100 becquerels per kilogram has been detected twice in cod caught off Hachinohe, the government said Monday…

Of course, that was over two years ago.     :P

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One of the ways that the US tried to calm the furore over the Fukushima disaster, was to help Japan to raise the acceptable radiation levels, so that any leak of radioactive particles would be deemed less serious.

And ex-Secretary of State Hillary Clinton was thought to have signed an agreement with her Japanese counterpart to promise that the US would continue to buy seafood from Japan, as proof that all is well, even though the FD has so far refused to actually test the sea-food for any radiation and determine that it is safe for consumption.

As part of the US’s efforts to keep Japan’s nuclear industry alive, at the end of last month, Mainichi Shimbum, one of the largest Japanese newspapers, reported that “the Japanese prime ministerial envoy secretly promised to the United States that Japan would resume its controversial ‘pluthermal’ program, using light-water reactors to burn plutonium, according to documents obtained by the Mainichi.”

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Re: Do Citizens of Earth Have the Right to a Radiation-free Environment?
« Reply #140 on: December 16, 2014, 07:32:01 pm »
OK, as a follow-up to the exciting video previously posted,
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Re: Do Citizens of Earth Have the Right to a Radiation-free Environment?
« Reply #141 on: December 16, 2014, 09:11:27 pm »
radiation spla-diation
it's everywhere so why bother thinking about it
we're all gonna die...

Well...

In terms of geography, radon can occur pretty much anywhere. But, regions with granitic soils seem to be the most prone.

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Radon is formed as one intermediate step in the normal radioactive decay chains, through which thorium and uranium slowly decay into lead.



Back in Canada... we have a Cottage on a lake. It is in the Bancroft region, Grenville Mineral Province.. The land was free from the government, so long as you built on it withing two years.

So my dad boated around the lake looking for a good spot and settled on a huge outcrop of granite. We built in that Gives a nice view ( I have photos in an album somewhere)

Next door was an abandoned mine.. an exploration only 50 feet deep straight into the hill. This old mine had the mine road (which we still use today to access the lot) and rails with ore carts (now long scrapped)

Because of the land laws at the time we were able to build a small second cottage on that property and thus it became ours as well.

It wasn't until years later when I became a rockhound that we discovered it was a URANIUM prospect. I dug out many pounds of deep orange calcite and dark smokey quartz crystals. Wee those two get there rich color from radioactive decay

The granite pegmatite that the cottage sits on is full of small bits of what look like rusty metal... with small fracture lines radiating from them. Well those are bits of radioactive metal and the cracks are from the decompossition.

The Bancroft region has many uranium prospects and other rare earth minerals. I still have a box of very 'HOT" Betafite crystals in the garage. But because of these mines, the birth defect rate in the town of Bancroft and surrounding area is 20 times higher than national average.

My dad spent a LOT of time out there at the cottage, more than all of us. He would catch frogs in the mine water, walked in it barefoot.

My dad died of bone cancer at 62...

The Earths core is MOLTEN  It is kept molten by the decay of radioactive material :D

But tyere is a difference between concentration of natural elements and refines ones. The human body can withstand a LOT of radiation... its simply a matter of HOW MUCH for HOW LONG

Some people can build an immunity to it, the Russians proved that. Scientists are breeding mice that are immune and cockroaches can be put in a microwave and live LOL

It's a matter of degree... if you get a massive does in a short time it will literally burn your flesh off. but low dose over a long time is not so bad

It varies in people too.  And those living in Denver get a lot of radiation from space compared to those living at sea level

So you can buy a house on a Uranium Mine in Denver and most likely survive... but I bet you won't be able to have kids :P

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Re: Do Citizens of Earth Have the Right to a Radiation-free Environment?
« Reply #142 on: December 16, 2014, 09:14:22 pm »
One thing that is certain....

...it is very hard to enjoy rock hunting or eatting a banana in one of these


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Re: Do Citizens of Earth Have the Right to a Radiation-free Environment?
« Reply #143 on: December 17, 2014, 07:43:34 am »
Thor I would have to say that Yes we don't really need dirty Nuke Plants considering a place like where I live in Oz has enough sunlight to go full solar!

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Wonder if anyone recalls in the last year or two reading one of those articles that spread like wildfire online containing a heading along the lines of "Top Ten Things you didn't know were Radioactive" propagating around the web?

If you did you would recall that Bananas got a really bad wrap LOL.

The Fact is that Bananas are....

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When a person eats an average 150 gram banana, they absorb about .1 micro-Sieverts of radiation. A person would have to eat 27 bananas a day for 100 years to up their cancer risk by 1 percent.

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http://physicsbuzz.physicscentral.com/2014/01/how-radioactive-in-bananas-is-room.html

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The Funny though, in Both USA and Oz Heart Disease is the biggest Killer:

http://www.cdc.gov/Features/HeartMonth/

http://www.heartfoundation.org.au/information-for-professionals/data-and-statistics/Pages/default.aspx

Going by the above stats it would seem people need more bananas :D

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« Reply #144 on: February 01, 2015, 04:33:05 pm »
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Re: Do Citizens of Earth Have the Right to a Radiation-free Environment?
« Reply #147 on: July 31, 2015, 06:35:17 pm »




ETERNAL DISASTER: Outline of the Fukushima Never-ending Catastrophe

What on earth could possibly justify a technology that can have such atrocious consequences?

Why are we taking that risk?

Why are we continuing down this nefarious path, even though after Windscale, after Three Mile Island, after Chernobyl and now after Fukushima it has become absolutely clear that this technology transcends our means of controlling it?



Why is lying and the suppression of facts still rampant? As this technology is threatening our very existence – why don't we just quit?

1986, four months after the Chernobyl accident, Morris Rosen, nuclear safety expert at the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA), stated:

“Even if there were an accident of this type every year, I would still regard nuclear power as a valuable source of energy.”

Valuable. Valuable for whom?

Not for business.
Private investors are not interested in nuclear power, even when governments offer billions in subsidies. The market knows: economically nuclear power is not viable, not least because of its inherent risks.

Not for the environment.
In the course of producing highly toxic wastes that remain dangerous for thousands of years, some electricity is generated as a by-product (and plutonium for the DOE/DOD).

Today the nuclear industry is touting NPPs as a panacea for preventing climate change. Of course, nuclear zealots keep silent about the fact that electricity accounts for a mere 17% of the globe's total energy consumption.

Of these 17%, just about one tenth, 1,7%, is being produced by nuclear.

Therefore, in order to combat climate change effectively by using nuclear, we would have to embark on an enormous building spree.

Even if we put the pharaonic costs incurred by such a monstrous project aside, the insolvable problem of how to handle the nuclear waste would be immeasurably exacerbated yet again.

What then is the magic ingredient that makes this technology so valuable?

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Re: Do Citizens of Earth Have the Right to a Radiation-free Environment?
« Reply #148 on: August 01, 2015, 03:51:47 am »
No, it's called a CME :P More radiation than a hundred Fukushimas  :P


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