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The Living Moon => Thorfourwinds Section => The Challenges and Solutions Associated With Nuclear Energy => Topic started by: thorfourwinds on September 08, 2012, 11:18:09 am

Title: America's Being Nuked: Can Together We Stop the Madness?
Post by: thorfourwinds on September 08, 2012, 11:18:09 am
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After all the shouting (http://www.hark.com/clips/gycxtkvjxh-foolproof-and-incapable-or-error) is over, the grim silence of facts remain.
Joseph Conrad 




To really understand the present, which was the future yesterday, one must learn from the experiences of the past.

We once were told something to the effect: “the present exists but for a fleeting moment, the past is but a memory - dead and gone forever; therefore, the only thing one can affect is the future.”


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Even if Chernobyl did kill 200,000 people, compare and contrast that with the numbers killed by smog every year...


We couldn’t help but shudder when we read this. Gotta love the nuclear industry advocates’ sense of responsibility.

Speaking of Chernobyl, let us wander down the halls of yesteryear for a moment, thinking that perhaps we might learn a thing or two.


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Depending on which report one is to believe, there were over half a million liquidators (http://www.mirnyi.arwis.com/book_2/2_2.html) who cleaned up Chernobyl and the surrounding area after the accident. They were almost all young men at the time.

In an early 2000’s study, 60,000 had died and 165,000-200,000 were believed to be permanently disabled, despite most only being in their 40’s and 50’s.

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Thus, speaking about liquidators, one should remember that the Chernobyl liquidators are a very vast group, embracing hundreds of thousands of people, most probably more than 0.5 million and less then 1 million. — “... there has never before been such a large population of workers exposed to radiation” (Goldsmith et al. 1997: 52; emphasis added).

In the city of Chernobyl there stands a simple memorial to the liquidators who rushed to reactor number four in the immediate aftermath of the explosion.


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“To those who saved the world.”


Nuclear's green cheerleaders forget Chernobyl at our peril (http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2011/apr/01/fukushima-chernobyl-risks-radiation)

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I prefer the words of Alexey Yablokov, member of the Russian academy of sciences, and adviser to President Gorbachev at the time of Chernobyl:

'When you hear 'no immediate danger'
(from nuclear radiation)
then you should run away as far and as fast as you can.'


Should one desire further reading: Russian Chernobyl Expert Warns of Dire Consequences for Health Around Fukushima (http://www.commondreams.org/newswire/2011/03/25-4)


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Five years ago I visited the still highly contaminated areas of Ukraine and the Belarus border where much of the radioactive plume from Chernobyl descended on 26 April 1986...


It was grim.

We went from hospital to hospital and from one contaminated village to another.

We found deformed and genetically mutated babies in the wards;
pitifully sick children in the homes;
adolescents with stunted growth and dwarf torsos;
foetuses without thighs or fingers
and villagers who told us every member of their family was sick.


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This was 20 years after the accident but we heard of many unusual clusters of people with rare bone cancers. One doctor, in tears, told us that one in three pregnancies in some places was malformed and that she was overwhelmed by people with immune and endocrine system disorders.


Others said they still saw caesium and strontium in the breast milk of mothers living far from the areas thought to be most affected, and significant radiation still in the food chain.

Villages testified that "the Chernobyl necklace" – thyroid cancer – was so common as to be unremarkable; many showed signs of accelerated ageing.

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The doctors and scientists who have dealt directly with the catastrophe said that the UN International Atomic Energy Agency's "official" toll, through its Chernobyl Forum, of 50 dead and perhaps 4,000 eventual fatalities was insulting and grossly simplistic.

The Ukrainian Scientific Centre for Radiation, which estimated that infant mortality increased 20 to 30% after the accident, said their data had not been accepted by the UN because it had not been published in a major scientific journal.


Would one of the more-informed members please help us here and explain the ‘process’ of being accepted for publication in a major scientific journal?

How many of these ‘accreditied’ journals are there?

Is there an editorial board that makes a decision as to publishing ‘controversial’ information?

We found this:

“Requiring a paper to have been accepted for publication in a quality journal means it has at least passed a minimum requirement.”

The question we have might be: Who exactly sets the bar for “minimum requirement?”


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Konstantin Tatuyan, one of the "liquidators" who had helped clean up the plant, told us that

nearly all his colleagues had died or had cancers of one sort or another, but that no one had ever asked him for evidence.

There was burning resentment at the way the UN, the industry and ill-informed pundits had played down the catastrophe.

What he saw in those years, he says, appalled him:

young men dying for want of the simplest information about exposure to radiation;

the wide-scale falsification of medical histories by the Soviet army and the disappearance of people's records so the state would not have to compensate them;

the wholesale looting of evacuated houses and abandoned churches;

the haste and carelessness with which the concrete "sarcophagus" was erected over the stricken reactor;

and, above all,

the horror of seeing land almost twice the size of Britain contaminated, with thousands of villages made uninhabitable.


Will this horrible scenario be repeated in Japan?

From the information obtained to date, it appears eerily similar and suggests the possibility of more of the "same old same old."


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"Everyone who helped on the clean up is now ill,"

says Tatiana, a senior doctor at the Dispensary for Radiological Protection at Rivne.

"The situation is worsening."

"In 1985, we had four lymph cancers a year.

Now we have seven times that many.

We have between five and eight people a year with rare bone cancers, when we never had any.

We expect more cancers, and ill health. One in three pregnancies here are malformed.

We are overwhelmed."


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Moving up the scale, a 2006 report for Green MEPs suggested up to 60,000 possible deaths; Greenpeace took the evidence of 52 scientists and estimated the deaths and illnesses to be 93,000 terminal cancers already and perhaps 140,000 more in time.

Using other data, the Russian Academy of Medical Sciences declared in 2006 that 212,000 people had died as a direct consequence of Chernobyl.



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At the end of 2006, Yablokov and two colleagues, factoring in the worldwide drop in births and increase in cancers seen after the accident, estimated in a study published in the annals of the New York Academy of Sciences that


985,000 people had so far died
and the environment had been
devastated, possibly forever.


Their findings were met with almost complete silence by the World Health Organization (long-time bedfellows with nuclear power advocates) and the nuclear industry.    ::)


"The New York Academy of Sciences in 2010 released the most significant and vital English language report on the deaths and environmental devastation caused by Chernobyl.

After pouring through thousands of reports and studies conducted in Eastern Europe and Russia, the Academy concluded that nearly one million people have died as a result of radiation exposure."


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Nuclear energy is completely safe
because computers, not humans,
are in control (http://www.moviewavs.com/php/sounds/?id=bst&media=MP3S&type=Movies&movie=2001&quote=hal-fool.txt&file=hal-fool.mp3)


  :P


The real face of the nuclear industry

The nuclear industry has a lot to hide.

When things go wrong, as they often do, they really go wrong and people pay with their lives.

Each one of these statistics has a face.

Many people are paying a price for the negligence of a dirty and dangerous industry. These are just a few who have paid the real cost of the nuclear industry.

The next time you hear that we need nuclear power, consider if you want to experience the same fate?



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In the cancer ward of a Kiev hospital in the Ukraine, 19-year-old Elena is being treated for her second case of thyroid cancer in just 3 years.


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Sisters Irina and Yelena live in an area of Belarus contaminated by the Chernobyl disaster. Both have brain tumors removed and have problems with their thyroid glands.


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In the same cancer hospital in Kiev, both Larisa and Paulina have thyroid cancer. The Ukraine has seen an explosion of thyroid cancer.

The Kiev Institute of Endocrinology saw a sharp increase three to four year after Chernobyl. At first, mainly children were diagnosed; now the majority are adult women.

So who can we trust when the estimates swing so wildly?


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Dr. Janette D. Sherman, who edited the volume, explained the discrepancy between the UN's assessment and the Academy's regarding Chernobyl, "(The UN) released a report ... and they only included about 350 articles available in the English language, but (the New York Academy of Sciences) looked at well over 5,000 articles ... by people who were there and saw what was going on.

"We are talking about medical doctors, scientists, veterinarians, epidemiologists, who saw what was happening when people in their communities were getting sick and dying."



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Natasha Popova {12} and Vadim Kuleshov {8}. Natasha was born with microcephaly; her head is too small. Vadim has a bone disease and is also mentally retarded.


In the Academy's book that includes the report, titled Chernobyl: Consequences of the Catastrophe for People and the Environment (http://www.nyas.org/Publications/Annals/Detail.aspx?cid=f3f3bd16-51ba-4d7b-a086-753f44b3bfc1), they argue that

the World Health Organization and the International Atomic Energy Agency, which reports to the UN,

 formed an agreement in 1959 which states one will not release a report without the agreement of the other.

 :o


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Let's take a 'time out' and check out this sharing from brother clif high:


"We, the regular humans seeking our paths in life, can do so, that is 'cheat against war' by creating novel forms of potential.

We can start ahead of the chain in that sense by circulating new ways of thinking that in turn will create new potential that in turn creates new probability ahead of the war to kill almost all humans that the entrenched powers are so desperately trying to drive into our immediate future.

In ways we could not ourselves envision, though we can certainly see the 'potential' in so doing, each time we create a new potential, multiple new probabilities are also created.

These then lead to yet new outcomes....some of which will not involve the last humans alive stumbling out their final minutes in confusion on the corpses of their families.

Reducing the great taoist master Lu to 'now speak'...


if you add value to universe, universe will reward it by creating more potential in your life to add yet more value.

In this way, terrestrial beings may manifest personal power."




Dear Reader, (and we know who you are (http://maps.apocalx.net/where-are-you.php), thank you for being here) do you remember this latest "worst nuclear accident since Chernobyl" from only a dozen years ago?


Nuclear blast triggers crisis (http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/1999/oct/01/uk.paulbrown?INTCMP=ILCNETTXT3487)

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The world's worst nuclear accident since Chernobyl rocked Japan yesterday after an explosion took place at a nuclear fuel plant, threatening 300,000 people living within a six-mile radius of the disaster.

When the plant was evacuated radiation levels were reported 2km from the site to be 15,000 times the normal level.


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The authorities were painfully slow to react.

The scale of the problem did not become apparent until workers returned to the plant six hours after running away when the alarms sounded.


"They found such high radiation levels that they concluded the chain reaction was continuing and they had no way of stopping it."


Why does this sound so familiar?

Do not tell us that this happened before and no lesson was learned... no one is that stupid.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2IpT6ccDs0c


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The disaster began as workers at the JCO Tokai nuclear fuel plant were attempting to dissolve 16kg of enriched uranium in nitric acid - almost enough to make a nuclear bomb.

It is considered dangerous to process more than 2.4kg at one time.  ::)   

This set off an uncontrolled chain reaction, resulting in a "blue flash" at the processing plant in Tokai village. A hole was punched through the roof of the building, radiation began spewing into the atmosphere, and

radiation levels went up to 4,000 times normal levels within a minute.

There was no containment around the plant, because it was thought that an accident like this could not happen.



Just a quick checkup here:

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The use of these advanced technologies now directly affects mankind's ability to control its own fate and the lethal consequences on our earthly and human ecosystems are perhaps irreversible.

Or, as another astute individual observed:

"As man attempts to become God-like, we release potential forces that can, and probably will, destroy us."


Listen up, people.

We are slowly but surely losing our extraordinary capacity to make life desirable.

As the nuclear fallout continues to spread worldwide, our natural resilience - our immune system - will artificially decrease, independently of our own will.

These advanced technologies continue to affect not only our physical bodies, but our minds as well.
Title: Re: America's Being Nuked: Can Together We Stop the Madness?
Post by: TheJanitor on September 09, 2012, 02:14:44 am
I can give you two reasons and one motive why nuclear power has such a firm hold in a supposedly civilized era. In the first, there is no justification or need for such high energy density in a civil or even industrial context. The reason is military. See particle beams. In the second, the reactors typically are fast water breeders, meaning they produce plutonium, which as you know goes into weapons (they age). Countries not involved with our weapons programs, such as Canada, sport thorium reactors, being less dense in energy capital, and do not produce plutonium. Thorium reactors do not melt down, and accidents are rare (never heard of one).

So, it stands to reason, if these types of reactors are to be shut down, then the MIC will have to be downsized. And history shows the results, Marcus Aurelius is one example.

What we need is disarmament talks. What happened to those?
Title: Re: America's Being Nuked: Can Together We Stop the Madness?
Post by: thorfourwinds on September 09, 2012, 05:54:37 am
I can give you two reasons and one motive why nuclear power has such a firm hold in a supposedly civilized era.

In the first, there is no justification or need for such high energy density in a civil or even industrial context. The reason is military. See particle beams.

In the second, the reactors typically are fast water breeders, meaning they produce plutonium, which as you know goes into weapons (they age). Countries not involved with our weapons programs, such as Canada, sport thorium reactors, being less dense in energy capital, and do not produce plutonium. Thorium reactors do not melt down, and accidents are rare (never heard of one).

So, it stands to reason, if these types of reactors are to be shut down, then the MIC will have to be downsized. And history shows the results, Marcus Aurelius is one example.

What we need is disarmament talks. What happened to those?

Greetings:

Welcome to PRC and thank you for your time, consideration and participation.

Allow us to award you your first Gold for your astute observations.    8)

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In the first, there is no justification or need for such high energy density in a civil or even industrial context. The reason is military.

Bingo!


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What we need is disarmament talks. What happened to those?

We agree totally.

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Title: Re: America's Being Nuked: Can Together We Stop the Madness?
Post by: thorfourwinds on October 02, 2012, 04:18:02 pm
Greeting:

Much of this is from our friend, Ace Hoffman in San Diego, CA.

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Silent Spring

50 years on: The silence is still deafening...


September 27th, 2012

Dear Readers,

Silent Spring was first published 50 years ago today.

Rachel Carson was my age, just 56, when she died of breast cancer 18 months later.

I had cancer too (in 2007) but thankfully it was successfully treated -- I'm fine now.

But everyone around the world has already inhaled, eaten, and drank billions of nanoparticles and thousands of larger "hot particles" that have spewed from Fukushima since March, 2011, and from every other nuclear accident and chemical spill. Fukushima and Chernobyl continue to spew, and will for generations to come. That can't be good for any of us, and it isn't.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n8W8xv36bJA


Fukushima and Chernobyl: No Cause For Alarm! by Ace Hoffman April, 2011 - YouTube

This is another fine example of the nuclear insanity:

At a city council meeting last night in Encinitas, California, the top emergency planner in the Southern California area assured citizens and council members that although it's true that an accidental radioactive "puff" (his word) from San Onofre might cause problems with avocados (undoubtedly our state's favorite fruit), we need not worry, because they'll test all those truckloads of avocados (after WHO picks them?) and even if they're "hot" on the outside, once you peel them they might be okay, he said.

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Imagine trying to sell "hot" California avocados after a meltdown at San Onofre by assuring customers around the country that "they're only hot on the outside!" He said they might also make great guacamole.

Later he admitted he's not a nuclear physicist. It appears he also neglected to study the uptake of cesium by plants through the soil after it's soaked in for a few years.

Two scientists who HAVE studied such things are Joe Mangano and Janette Sherman. They have co-authored a wonderful article honoring Rachel Carson and the 50th anniversary of the publication of Silent Spring, which I am happy and honored to be able to include below, as it was sent to me this morning by one of the authors.

Yours,
Ace (http://acehoffman.org/)


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fiRj7yo5w2E

Uploaded by Ace Hoffman on March 14, 2011

This animation shows the wind patterns over Chernobyl, from an animation reported to have been recently released by the French government. But here, "Ground Zero" is the Fukushima-Daiichi nuclear power plants instead.

Chernobyl was 25 years ago next month (April, 2011). At the moment, three reactors are in trouble and have probably suffered some fuel melt, as at Three Mile Island. This animation shows the current jet stream for today 3/14/2011) as well.


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Note that the figure for Chernobyl dead is based on a book published by the New York Academy of Sciences in 2010 which reviewed thousands of studies about the catastrophe. As of this writing (3/16/2011) it appears that Fukushima-Daiichi may already be worse, or soon will be. An ill wind blows.

And the beat goes on...

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J-Power to finish construction of first nuclear reactor designed to run exclusively on MOX fuel (http://enformable.com/2012/09/j-power-to-finish-construction-of-first-nuclear-reactor-designed-to-run-exclusively-on-mox-fuel/)

28 September 2012

The Electric Power Development Company began construction in 2008 on the nuclear power plant in Ohma Town, but work was suspended after the Fukushima Daiichi nuclear disaster.  The Ohma project is J-Powers first nuclear power venture, and is a variation of the Advanced Boiling Water Reactor (http://Advanced Boiling Water Reactor) (ABWR) standard design.

 
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Two advanced boiling water reactors are currently operating in Japan.

During construction, the foundation of the reactor pressure vessel of one of the plants can be seen.


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The ABWR is planned to be Japan’s first nuclear power plant designed to run exclusively on MOX fuel, and was to be a key figure in the central government “pluthermal” plan, which promotes the reuse of plutonium and uranium from spent fuels in light-water reactors.

J-Power initially aimed to start operating the plant in March 2012, but in 2008 announced that work would be delayed by two and a half years in November 2014, but in March told the government that the start date was undecided.

Currently, about 40% of the construction work has been completed, but the utility will have to meet new safety standards which have yet to be finalized by the new nuclear regulating authority.


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Part of the reactor pressure vessel is transported during construction of an advanced boiling water reactor in Japan.


Hokkaido’s Hakodate City, located 20 kilometers from the town, has asked the central government that the project be suspended indefinitely. A group of Hakodate citizens has filed for a court injunction to stop the project.

Hakodate Mayor Toshiki Kudo said the city is considering filing a lawsuit if J-Power goes ahead with its plan.

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Source: NHK
Source: Reuters
Source: J-Power
Source: NHK
Source: JiJi Press

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1OuNQ9ZGyks

Fukushima Daiichi Beatles
by Ace Hoffman
(aka Three Mile Island Beatles) - YouTube

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Title: Re: America's Being Nuked: Can Together We Stop the Madness?
Post by: thorfourwinds on October 20, 2012, 06:59:56 pm
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The music has stopped
and all the chairs
are radioactive
FOREVER.



Enough already of the radioactive nuclear waste musical chairs game.


To be viewed as being completely somewhat fair in this debate, we will give the defendant nuclear industry the first response.

Here is what ‘an industry mouthpiece’ says about the ‘waste solutions’ country-by-country.

Please pay particular attention to the first paragraph and notice the classic sleight-of-hand at play here.

 
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Radioactive Waste Management | Nuclear Waste Disposal (http://www.world-nuclear.org/info/inf04.html)

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A pending question is whether wastes should be emplaced so that they are readily retrievable from repositories. There are sound reasons for keeping such options open – in particular, it is possible that future generations might consider the buried waste to be a valuable resource. On the other hand, permanent closure might increase long-term security of the facility.

“After being buried for about 1,000 years most of the radioactivity will have decayed.

The amount of radioactivity then remaining would be similar to that of the naturally-occurring uranium ore from which it originated, though it would be more concentrated.”

France's 2006 waste law says that HLW disposal must be "reversible", which seems to refer to the management strategy. France, Switzerland, Canada, Japan and the USA require retrievability, and that is policy also in most other countries, but this presupposes that long-term, the repository would be sealed to satisfy safety requirements.

The measures or plans that various countries have in place to store, reprocess and dispose of used fuel and wastes are described in an Appendix to this paper (see Appendix 3: National Policies) and summarised in the following Table.


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Note: in most countries repositories or at least storage facilities for low-level wastes and intermediate-level wastes are operating." See also individual country papers. (http://www.world-nuclear.org/info/inf04ap3.html)


The chart below indicates the worldwide Commercial Nuclear Reactors in operation and under construction.

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Our turn.

Remember that first paragraph above from World Nuclear Association?

“After being buried for about 1,000 years most of the radioactivity will have decayed.”

This is another challenge, as that type of thinking - THE BIG LIE - pervades the entire Nuclear Military Industrial Complex, and your friends and neighbors have bought the farm, hook, line and sinker.


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We, the people, are ultimately responsible.


From Wiki (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High-level_radioactive_waste_management):

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Of particular concern are two long-lived fission products, Technetium-99 (half-life 220,000 years) and Iodine-129 (half-life 15.7 million years), which dominate spent nuclear fuel radioactivity after a few thousand years.

The most troublesome transuranic elements in spent fuel are Neptunium-237 (half-life two million years) and Plutonium-239 (half-life 24,000 years). Consequently, high-level radioactive waste requires sophisticated treatment and management to successfully isolate it from the biosphere.

And these clowns have this "sophisticated treatment and management" plan for TWO MILLION YEARS?

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This usually necessitates treatment, followed by a long-term management strategy involving permanent storage, disposal or transformation of the waste into a non-toxic form.

Governments around the world are considering a range of waste management and disposal options, usually involving deep-geologic placement, although there has been limited progress toward implementing long-term waste management solutions.

This is partly because the timeframes in question when dealing with radioactive waste range from 10,000 to millions of years, according to studies based on the effect of estimated radiation doses.


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This from World Nuclear:

Radioactive Waste Management | Nuclear Waste Disposal (http://www.world-nuclear.org/info/inf04.html)

(Updated April 2012)

      Nuclear power is the only large-scale energy-producing technology which takes full responsibility for all its wastes and fully costs this into the product.

      The amount of radioactive wastes is very small relative to wastes produced by fossil fuel electricity generation.

      Used nuclear fuel may be treated as a resource or simply as a waste.

      Nuclear wastes are neither particularly hazardous nor hard to manage relative to other toxic industrial wastes.

      Safe methods for the final disposal of high-level radioactive waste are technically proven; the international consensus is that this should be geological disposal.

 
:o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o

There is another way to counter this insanity.

Knowledge is power - so we might raise the awareness of the concerned citizens through the magic of music (http://www.thelivingmoon.com/forum/index.php?topic=1405.0).

Another tipping point: Disposal of nuclear waste is often said to be the Achilles' heel of the nuclear industry.

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Presently, waste is mainly stored at individual reactor sites and there are over 430 locations around the world where radioactive material continues to accumulate.

Experts agree that centralized underground repositories which are well-managed, guarded, and monitored, would be a vast improvement.


Really?
Improvement over nothing is progress?
Gotta love the next sentence:


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There is an international consensus on the advisability of storing nuclear waste in deep underground repositories, but no country in the world has yet opened such a site.

Wonder why?

"... international consensus on the advisability ..."

We are suitably impressed by the 'scientific-sounding' NewSpeak  :P

Listen up, people.

Exposing the planet-wide fallout poisoning of the environment is another way to take a stab at the nuclear dragon. That constantly beeping Dosimeter of Fruitbat's is a really great reminder idea/conversation starter and we look forward to the prototype as soon as waiting is filled.


Remember, the pro-nukies are dancing around the "centralized storage" Maypole, still, and chanting, "It's coming, it's coming ..." - it is merely another distraction - as we all know now - after 60 years - that this is another lie and another part of The Ultimate Cover-up - Depopulation.


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Title: Re: America's Being Nuked: Can Together We Stop the Madness?
Post by: biggles on October 20, 2012, 07:23:47 pm
Millions are already dead from this, its just that their still walking around, but dead nonetheless.

Our one hope is maybe our benevolent ET friends will clean it up because they can and we can't.

Walking dead. 

So a thought comes to mind this Japan disaster, was it deliberate?
Title: Re: America's Being Nuked: Can Together We Stop the Madness?
Post by: zorgon on October 21, 2012, 01:58:08 am
Our one hope is maybe our benevolent ET friends will clean it up because they can and we can't.

What are they waiting for? Its been over 50 years since Roswell and the first A bomb. Getting steadily worse.

I don't think they can clean it up and are likely avoiding earth like the plaque

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Title: Re: America's Being Nuked: Can Together We Stop the Madness?
Post by: Fruitbat on October 28, 2012, 06:15:40 pm
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Exposing the planet-wide fallout poisoning of the environment is another way to take a stab at the nuclear dragon. That constantly beeping Dosimeter of Fruitbat's is a really great reminder idea/conversation starter and we look forward to the prototype as soon as waiting is filled.


There's no waiting to be done. My effort to personally improve my record keeping and graphabilty, to give me greater creedibilty as I take teh fight out ther in my way should not hold anyu of you back from rushing out to ebay and snapping up one of these baby's... She tells me it does cumulative, and I like the face plate cover, I cracked my counters plastic face palte cover, because it does not have that cover feature. I really like the look of the soeks counters, but they are out of my price range.

THose of you who can do electronics can build it cheaper, but SPEED IS OF THE ESSENCE HERE FOLKS, we need people out there doing "show and tell", right now.

FB!

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Title: Re: America's Being Nuked: Can Together We Stop the Madness?
Post by: thorfourwinds on August 25, 2013, 06:40:33 pm
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Art Robinson/Facebook

Oregon's GOP Chair Wants to Sprinkle Nuclear Waste From Airplanes | Mother Jones (http://www.motherjones.com/mojo/2013/08/oregon-gop-art-robinson-nuclear-waste-airplanes)

After months of in-fighting, the beleaguered Oregon Republican Party elected a new chairman last weekend. His name is Art Robinson, and he wants to sprinkle radioactive waste from airplanes to build up our resistance to degenerative illnesses.

Robinson, who unsuccessfully ran for Congress against progressive Rep. Peter DeFazio in 2010 and 2012, took over after the previous chair resigned in advance of a recall campaign over her alleged financial mismanagement.

Robinson, who has a Ph.D. in chemistry, has marketed himself for the last three decades as an expert on everything from nuclear fallout to AIDS to climate science in the pages of a monthly newsletter, Access to Energy, which he published from his compound in the small town of Cave Junction.

A quick glance at his writings, which were publicized during his ill-fated challenges to DeFazio, suggest that whatever the failings of the previous party leadership—Democrats now hold all statewide elected offices and control both houses of the state Legislature—Robinson brings with him a new set of challenges entirely.


On nuclear waste:
 
"All we need do with nuclear waste is dilute it to a low radiation level and sprinkle it over the ocean—or even over America after hormesis is better understood and verified with respect to more diseases."

And:

"If we could use it to enhance our own drinking water here in Oregon, where background radiation is low, it would hormetically enhance our resistance to degenerative diseases.

Alas, this would be against the law."
   :P
Title: Re: America's Being Nuked: Can Together We Stop the Madness?
Post by: robomont on August 25, 2013, 07:01:25 pm
wow thats a nut bag.
Title: Re: America's Being Nuked: Can Together We Stop the Madness?
Post by: thorfourwinds on January 12, 2014, 06:25:50 pm
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Gov’t Report: Fukushima ocean plume hit Canada 6 months ago — “Precedes model predictions by several years” — ‘Human health’ is first reason listed for study (MAP) (http://enenews.com/govt-fukushima-ocean-plume-canadas-coast-6-months-precedes-model-predictions-several-years-human-health-first-reason-listed-study)

20 December 2013

Preface:
The concept of internal radiation exposure has been suppressed ever since Hiroshima/Nagasaki bombing for political reasons so that atomic weapons development could and would continue. Researchers who studied low-dose radiation contamination had their studies suppressed and unfunded.

Organizations such as ICRP (International Commission on Radiological Protection) and IAEA (International Atomic Energy Agency) have gone along with this. Both promote the use of nuclear power. WHO (World Health Organization) has signed something with IAEA so that they would not interfere with IAEA's official announcements.

Those researchers whose work was suppressed are mostly represented in ECRR (European Committee on Radiation Risk), whose general position is that there is no safe level of radiation and that hot particles ingested or inhaled cause internal radiation exposure.

In Belarus, where the Chernobyl accident had a profound effect, only 10 to 20 % of children are born healthy, even 25 years after the accident.

This is because the soil there is contaminated and food grown ends up being contaminated.

In Belarus, toddlers might die of heart attacks.

Premature aging is seen: children are having the type of illnesses you might see in older adults, such as hypertension, diabetes, cataracts, heart diseases, kidney diseases, etc. Sudden deaths are common. Of course congenital deformity and all kinds of cancers are happening.

It is commonly believed amongst health care professionals that deal with radiation that at "low-dose" of radiation such as what's been detected in Tokyo, people should not have any symptoms.

Well, the danger of radiation is so underplayed that the health care professionals have been given incorrect information.  Otherwise they won't be able to use all the medical and dental X-rays.

It’s not just thyroid cancer and leukemia that might result from radiation exposure.

There are many stories of bloody noses, cough, sore throat, metallic taste (these radioactive materials are basically heavy metals), fever, fatigue, bruises, skin eruptions, headaches, diarrhea, chest pain, irregular heartbeat, menstrual irregularities, etc., by people from Tokyo and Kanto area.

Those who report the symptoms to doctors are ridiculed because they should not have any symptoms at the radiation levels they experienced.

Doctors in Japan, with an exception of a handful of brave doctors, do not have freedom to diagnose radiation-related illnesses unless the Ministry of Health creates a policy permitting it.

Apparently in the socialized medicine they have in Japan, the doctors have to follow the government policy or they will lose their medical licenses.

Just because people live far away from Fukushima, they are not free from any effects.

Because the radioactive material has fallen on the ground, a caution should be taken to prevent any contamination through genital area.  This means not sitting on benches, ground, or grasses.  It means wearing sanitary napkins all the time to prevent genital contact with any radiation contamination.

By the way, there are some brands of sanitary napkins and diapers produced in factories in Fukushima which registered high radiation levels.


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Radionuclide Transport from Fukushima to Eastern North Pacific, Fisheries and Oceans Canada, 2013 PICES Annual Meeting on October 15, 2013:

June, 2012 Tully Mission: Significantly, 134Cs was detected in two samples
[...] Sta. P26 showing that Fukushima Cs was present. [...]

Levels of 137Cs equal to 0.3 Bq/m3 measured at Sta. P26 in 2012 represent Leading edge of Fukushima plume. [...]

Arrival of 137Cs at Sta. P26 in June, 2012 precedes [Behrens et al (http://enenews.com/study-n-americas-west-coast-to-be-most-contaminated-by-fukushima-cesium-of-all-regions-in-pacific-in-10-years-an-order-of-magnitude-higher-than-waters-off-japan-maps).] model predictions by several years. [...]

134Cs was detectable along the entire Line P in June, 2013. Highest levels of 0.9 Bq/m3 were measured at Sta. P26. [...]

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Many reasons for study-
   •   Human health- internal/external dose assessments
   •   Radioecology- marine biota [...]
   •   
[...] Fact is: radioactivity frightens people, almost always disproportionately to the actual threat: government must recognise this and provide sound, science based knowledge (and wisdom?) on human and environmental risks.

Here’s some of that ‘wisdom’ from Dr. Jay Cullen (http://www.timescolonist.com/comment-fukushima-radioactivity-is-not-a-threat-to-b-c-1.703961#sthash.kmm7TXEP.dpuf), who was involved with the 2013 cruise: “[T]he estimated dose of radioactivity from consuming tuna carrying Fukushima-derived isotopes for a year is similar to or less than our annual doses from air travel, terrestrially produced foods, medical treatment (e.g. X-rays) and other background sources.”


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Perhaps he should look into internal emitters. Here’s what a physician originally from Kyoto, Japan says: (http://fukushimavoice-eng.blogspot.com/2012/01/this-letter-was-written-in-attempt-to.html)

“Internal radiation exposure is an entirely different matter.
 
This cannot and should not be compared to flights and X-rays. [...] Internal radiation contamination means radioactive particles are in the body and remain in the body, emitting radiation at a close proximity to cells and DNA. [...]

So the internal radiation exposure can lead to a wide variety of symptoms, but mainly your immune system is over-worked by trying to deal with the insultable...

 [...] human bodies know what to do with the naturally occurring radiation.  Our bodies do not absorb them unnecessarily. [...] Artificial radiation as a result of nuclear fission is a different matter.”

See also: CBC: Gov't scientists are now detecting Fukushima's radioactive plume offshore of Canada -- Professor: It's headed to our coast, I think monitoring rainfall over next couple years is prudent (AUDIO)

Related Posts
   1.   Study shows Fukushima nuclear pollution becoming more concentrated as it approaches U.S. West Coast — Plume crosses ocean in a nearly straight line toward N. America — Appears to stay together with little dispersion (MODEL (http://enenews.com/study-shows-fukushima-nuclear-pollution-becoming-more-concentrated-in-pacific-as-it-nears-u-s-west-coast-plume-travels-a-nearly-straight-line-to-america-appears-to-stay-together-with-little-dis) August 20, 2013
   2.   Canadian Gov’t Scientists: Model shows levels from Fukushima will exceed ‘maximum fallout’ in Pacific — “Not a human health radiological threat!” (http://enenews.com/gundersen-govt-buying-14-million-iodide-tablets-during-nuclear-disasters-dont-big-order-audio) December 20, 2013
   3.   Physician: The high radiation doses, the plume from Fukushima crossing ocean, likely to hit coast of Canada and Northwestern US in early 2014 — California impacted later in year — People don’t know how to stop situation at plant, it’s a global public health catastrophe (AUDIO) (http://enenews.com/physician-high-radiation-doses-plume-fukushima-crossing-pacific-hit-canada-oregon-washington-early-2014-california-will-be-impacted-later-year-people-dont-stop-situation-plant-global-public-heal) October 29, 2013
   4.   Report: Fukushima radioactive plume will continue to hit shores of U.S. and Canada for many decades — Impossible to remove molten cores for hundreds of years, if ever — Flow of contamination from plant will be virtually impossible to stop (http://enenews.com/fukushima-radioactive-plume-will-continue-to-hit-shores-of-u-s-and-canada-for-many-decades-impossible-to-remove-molten-cores-for-hundreds-of-years-if-ever-flow-of-contamination-from-plant-will) September 15, 2013
   5.   Physician in Canada on Cancer Estimates: Epidemic of Fukushima radiation-related deaths from fish in Pacific may have started — “Vast implications for human health” — “I eat so much salmon… I’m vulnerable” (http://enenews.com/physician-on-cancer-calculations-epidemic-of-fukushima-radiation-related-deaths-from-fish-in-pacific-may-have-started-vast-implications-for-human-health-i-eat-so-much-salmon-im-vulne) October 3, 2013


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Title: Re: America's Being Nuked: Can Together We Stop the Madness?
Post by: sky otter on January 12, 2014, 09:25:54 pm


the reason that no et is going to step in is
that this is a learning planet

we made the mess we have to learn to clean it up

doesn't look likely to happen though..does it :( :'(
Title: Re: America's Being Nuked: Can Together We Stop the Madness?
Post by: spacemaverick on January 16, 2014, 11:48:54 am
I don't like to use Wikipedia as a reference but here is a list of known nuclear accidents within the US compiled and placed on Wikipedia.

http://www.lutins.org/nukes.html

•   Criticality Accidents (Trinity Atomic Web Site): www.cddc.vt.edu/host/atomic/accident/critical.html

•   Government Accountability Project's Nuclear Oversight page: www.whistleblower.org/program-areas/environment/nuclear-oversight

•   Nuclear Information and Resource Service: http://www.nirs.org

•   Wikipedia articles:

o   List of civilian nuclear accidents: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_civilian_nuclear_accidents

o   List of civilian radiation accidents: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_civilian_radiation_accidents

o   List of military nuclear accidents:  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_military_nuclear_accidents

o   List of nuclear and radiation fatalities by country: United States:  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_nuclear_and_radiation_fatalities_by_country#United_States

o   List of nuclear power accidents by country: USA: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear_power_accidents_by_country

o   Lists of nuclear disasters and radioactive incidents:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lists_of_nuclear_disasters_and_radioactive_incidents

o   Nuclear and radiation accidents: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear_accidents

o   Nuclear reactor accidents in the United States: 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear_reactor_accidents_in_the_United_States


There may be more but the gentleman that compiled this can’t be totally positive about the number.  There may be more we do not know about.

Power plants only 1961 to 2012

http://www.lutins.org/nukes.html#power

This man just lists the accidents and that's all.
Title: Re: America's Being Nuked: Can Together We Stop the Madness?
Post by: thorfourwinds on April 05, 2014, 05:19:34 pm
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Fukushima – The Perfect Crime? (http://www.enviroreporter.com/2014/03/fukushima-the-perfect-crime/all/1/)


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The above is REQUIRED READING for the serious student.   :P
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Title: Re: America's Being Nuked: Can Together We Stop the Madness?
Post by: spacemaverick on April 05, 2014, 05:33:35 pm
What are they waiting for? Its been over 50 years since Roswell and the first A bomb. Getting steadily worse.

I don't think they can clean it up and are likely avoiding earth like the plaque

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Reminds me of the old film "The day the earth stood still." when "Micheal Rennie"  (The alien) warned the earth regarding our behavior and atomic weapons.  Even warning people is not working for the most part...but we must do it anyway.
Title: Re: America's Being Nuked: Can Together We Stop the Madness?
Post by: thorfourwinds on April 05, 2014, 05:36:17 pm
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Could California's Medical Marijuana Crop Be Tainted by Japanese Radiation? (http://www.laweekly.com/informer/2011/03/22/could-californias-medical-marijuana-crop-be-tainted-by-japanese-radiation)

By Dennis Romero

Tue, Mar 22, 2011 at 8:09 AM

This passes for a serious concern in California.

Our precious multi-billion-dollar marijuana crop could possibly maybe be threatened by radiation from Japan.

And who wants their green glowing, well, green?

It's a question posed with a sober voice in the 420 Times (http://the420times.com/2011/03/will-radiation-from-japan-affect-the-2011-marijuana-crop/),  a publication that explores the finer points of cannabis politics.

Actually, if you smoke weed everyday and you don't want your lungs looking like a glow-stick light show at a rave, maybe you should consider it.

420 Times brings up the question of whether -- if the situation at Fukushima (http://www.laweekly.com/informer/2011/03/17/japan-earthquake-could-nuclear-power-plant-radiation-reach-la) Daiichi Nuclear Power Station continues to smolder -- we'll have to consider the safety of outdoor marijuana and turn to hydroponic-only.

The publication goes on to seriously doubt your bud will turn into a radioactive dud this far away from Japan.

But if you're, um, paranoid (and we know you are), it offers these tips for the medically dependent:

So unless somehow you happen to be growing and ready to harvest outdoor crops in the next two weeks and an amount of radiation escapes that's huge enough to affect us here in California, you don't really have to worry. But if you want to be extra careful, you should wash off the leaves and buds of any plant that grew in contaminated conditions, and you'd still probably want to do a water cure for the safest result.


Now enjoy your spring crop in peace.


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Title: Re: America's Being Nuked: Can Together We Stop the Madness?
Post by: thorfourwinds on April 05, 2014, 06:28:15 pm
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Fukushima, Marijuana and the Future | High Times (http://www.hightimes.com/read/fukushima-marijuana-and-future)

BY KENT LEBSOCK ·  FEB 13, 2014

Perhaps at no time in human history has it been more crucial to get involved and battle corrupt corporate interests -- the catalysts of our own self-annihilation.

Contaminated soil, undrinkable water, birth defects in both animals and humans: This is what the people of Japan can expect from their inexplicable use of nuclear power -- “inexplicable” in that Japan is the only country to have ever been subjected to uranium’s use as a weapon of mass destruction.

Japanese novelist Haruki Murakami sums it up best: “This time no one dropped a bomb on us .... We set the stage, we committed the crime with our own hands, we are destroying our own lands.”

What the anti-nuke movement often misses in its efforts to stop the catastrophic effects of nuclear anything is that it begins with uranium mining -- a process that is horribly dangerous to the earth, the water and the ability of future generations to survive.


Stop uranium mining
and we stop the issues of nuclear waste
and nuclear meltdowns like those seen at
Chernobyl and Fukushima (http://www.hightimes.com/read/statement-urgency-spiritual-peoples-earth).



Despite changing claims by corporate scientists and governments, Japan is now experiencing uncontrolled radioactive discharges at the Fukushima Nuclear Power Plant following the events of March 11, 2011. Chernobyl was a picnic compared to what’s happening there.

Chernobyl had one reactor, and it didn’t sit on a beach 2,500 feet from the largest body of water on earth. Fukushima involves four reactors, three of which have melted down into the bedrock.

Experts from two Japanese universities have tested the radiation levels and found that the plant, with its 4,400 tons of nuclear fuel rods, “greatly dwarfs the total size of radiation sources at Chernobyl.”

Obviously, the intentional and unintentional release of highly contaminated water from Fukushima’s core into the Pacific Ocean is a wide-open, man-made door to the “process of global radioactive contamination,” says Michel Chossudovsky, the founder of Canada’s Center for Research on Globalization.

Radioactive rainwater has been recorded up and down the west coast of North America, California in particular. Once contamination reaches any body of water -- especially one as significant as the planet's oceans -- the process of getting into the food chain is a simple one.

The same goes for cannabis.

North America’s West Coast represents
the front lines in the Fukushima “invasion.”


Will we always be able to grow marijuana (http://www.hightimes.com/read/30-more-yield-indoor-pot-grow-advice) in California soil with California rain? The same question applies to indoor gardens, since using contaminated water in hydroponic cultivation is no guarantee of safety.

As early as 2011, only weeks after the disaster, fish caught off the California coast contained elements of nasty radioactive materials -- and though the test sample wasn’t large, every one of the fish tested was dosed with contaminants.

Interestingly, the tested fish were all born before the disaster, meaning their exposure was limited. One of the study’s experts stated that fish swimming across the Pacific Ocean ever since will have “considerably more radioactivity” and could result in a serious “public health hazard.”

He’s only discussing the present. Imagine 10, 15 or 20 years from now: These doses of alpha-, beta- and gamma-radiation emitters easily set up shop in algae, fish, grass, cattle and -- oh, yeah -- human beings.

Then there’s contamination from the nuclear cloud.

For months now, “steam” has been observed erupting from the top of one of the reactors. Tepco, the corporation most directly responsible for this catastrophe, can’t explain this steam or what it contains.

(Why? Because the company’s crane is malfunctioning!) But recent reports indicate that a wealth of new radioactive materials has been spewed into the atmosphere from Fukushima, spreading globally.


Indigenous peoples around the world have always been on the front lines of environmental disasters.

Indigenous lands are the last ones containing significant untouched concentrations of the most prized resources on earth -- and corporations and governments will do anything to get at them.

Repeatedly, indigenous leaders have warned (http://www.hightimes.com/read/statement-urgency-spiritual-peoples-earth) that the planet is not a resource for exploitation. Arvol Looking Horse (http://www.manataka.org/page108.html) is the 19th-generation pipe carrier of all the bands of the Lakota, Nakota and Dakota nations in North America.

For Chief Looking Horse, the events at Fukushima -- and the generally disastrous treatment of the planet spurred by corporate greed -- is not surprising. At a recent gathering at the United Nations, he put the challenge in stark terms:



“You must decide. You can’t avoid it.

Each of us is put here in this time and this place
to personally decide the future of humankind.

Know that you yourself are essential to this world.
Believe that!

Understand both the blessing and the burden of that.
You, yourself are desperately needed to save the soul of this world.
Did you think you were put here for something less?”



Fukushima is more just than a warning -- it’s our future if this madness continues.

The real weapons of mass destruction are being promoted by our national, state and even local governments, and it’s our responsibility to stop them.


If we can’t drink the water or eat the food
 -- or smoke the pot, for that matter --
will any of the other issues really count?


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Title: Re: America's Being Nuked: Can Together We Stop the Madness?
Post by: Fruitbat on April 06, 2014, 04:49:29 am
"Exposing the planet-wide fallout poisoning of the environment is another way to take a stab at the nuclear dragon. That constantly beeping Dosimeter of Fruitbat's is a really great reminder idea/conversation starter and we look forward to the prototype as soon as waiting is filled."

Whoa!! Someone here is waiting for me to do something?

I've just been through this process over on the token, with a clown from the Nancy Hutchison camp, it was very distracting and annoying. I suspect however that here the motivation is different, but the result is still the same.

The waiting has been filled, long since..

I found several off the shelf (eBay, actually) candidates for the "everyman geiger counter". I found that by the time one has ordered the parts and built the counter and found a box to put it in, you may as well have put the effort into working for money, and buying an "off the shelf" unit. An off the shelf unit is also more credible for your audience than an obviously home made unit.

If you want my recommendations here you are more than welcome to them, however, bear in mind that I am largely unfunded and therefore haven't been able to hands on test the units I recommend. I have concentrated my efforts and expenditure into trying to find lower cost/diy solutions, none of which would I personally recommend, for a variety of reasons.

I'm not sure exactly what people are waiting for, and would appreciate a reminder by PM, if there is anything specific I can bring to the table.

This is a subject close to my heart, I really do think that personal individual action and always carrying a counter is a good idea, but equally I thought I was the only one who thought this, and had tired of going on about it. I was genuinely surprised to see my name appear in this thread...

FB.

Title: Re: America's Being Nuked: Can Together We Stop the Madness?
Post by: PLAYSWITHMACHINES on April 06, 2014, 01:37:03 pm
Hi FB :D

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I'm not sure exactly what people are waiting for, and would appreciate a reminder by PM, if there is anything specific I can bring to the table.

This is a subject close to my heart, I really do think that personal individual action and always carrying a counter is a good idea, but equally I thought I was the only one who thought this, and had tired of going on about it. I was genuinely surprised to see my name appear in this thread...


Need to talk about that, i can fund a couple of units if we have some plans etc, hell the kits aren't so bad.

I think we need a few in the US just to keep track of this ourselves ;)
PM or mail me, i have to work a lot, so it will be sporadic......
o yes, have some gold for being you, mate :)
Title: Re: America's Being Nuked: Can Together We Stop the Madness?
Post by: thorfourwinds on April 06, 2014, 05:18:36 pm
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Title: Re: America's Being Nuked: Can Together We Stop the Madness?
Post by: zorgon on April 07, 2014, 01:33:41 am
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So I assume that is WEED SMOG?   

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No they can't :P but they can help you not worry about it :D
Title: Re: America's Being Nuked: Can Together We Stop the Madness?
Post by: thorfourwinds on May 10, 2014, 03:46:36 pm
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Kevin Kamps 70 Years of Radioactive Risks America and Japan

Published on May 2, 2014
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This?

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Or this?

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The choice is ours to live - or die - with.   :P

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FUKUSHIMA FALLOUT CLOCK
Elapsed Time since March 11, 2011, 2:46 PM - Fukushima, Japan (http://www.timeanddate.com/countdown/generic?iso=20110311T1446&p0=2155)

The World Must Take Charge at Fukushima (http://www.thelivingmoon.com/forum/index.php?topic=5453.msg74364#msg74364)

“In a time of universal deceit
telling the truth is considered a revolutionary act."

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Title: Re: America's Being Nuked: Can Together We Stop the Madness?
Post by: thorfourwinds on May 10, 2014, 05:07:40 pm
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Find your local nuclear power plant and/or nuclear dump site.

(Or just protest in your own backyard, your local park, or anywhere else in your community. Get creative, anything goes.)

Create a sign that says; Chernobyl, Fukushima, [the name of the site you are standing in front of].

Find your local nuclear sites here: ANRC: Operating Nuclear Power Reactors (by Location or Name) (http://www.nrc.gov/info-finder/reactor/) | Global list of nuclear reactors (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_nuclear_reactors)

Take a Photo, Take a Video.  (Note: No need to go on their property, they are a visible form of public property.)

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Title: Re: America's Being Nuked: Can Together We Stop the Madness?
Post by: thorfourwinds on May 10, 2014, 05:21:57 pm
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Title: Re: America's Being Nuked: Can Together We Stop the Madness?
Post by: Amaterasu on May 11, 2014, 11:29:41 pm

the reason that no et is going to step in is
that this is a learning planet

we made the mess we have to learn to clean it up

doesn't look likely to happen though..does it :( :'(

It was not "We" who did this.  It was the Ones with money/power.  Most of Us, if WE had the power, would NOT create the psychopathic planet We are captives within - or rather, They want Us to THINK We're captive. 
Title: Re: America's Being Nuked: Can Together We Stop the Madness?
Post by: Fruitbat on May 12, 2014, 06:06:23 am
You are wrong, Amy it is US who are responsible.

We the masses who ignored the warnings in the sixties, and who continue to buy the product in the quantity that we do.

Mumbling amongst ourselves here about how bad it is and how psychotic our leaders are, isn't doing squat.

We gotta get out there and start educating the proleteriat, whether they like it or not..

'Course, that takes more guts and time than whining to our mates on forums, so not many of us actually do it AT ALL.

Hence nothing gets changed. How many more fukushimas will it take before a sizeable amount of us are motivated to get off our backsides?

FB.
(Not going to be one of my more popular posts this one, I suspect...)
Title: Re: America's Being Nuked: Can Together We Stop the Madness?
Post by: sky otter on May 12, 2014, 07:00:54 am
You are wrong, Amy it is US who are responsible.
We the masses who ignored the warnings in the sixties, and who continue to buy the product in the quantity that we do.

Mumbling amongst ourselves here about how bad it is and how psychotic our leaders are, isn't doing squat.

We gotta get out there and start educating the proleteriat, whether they like it or not..

'Course, that takes more guts and time than whining to our mates on forums, so not many of us actually do it AT ALL.

Hence nothing gets changed. How many more fukushimas will it take before a sizeable amount of us are motivated to get off our backsides?

FB.
(Not going to be one of my more popular posts this one, I suspect...)


well Fruitbat
you suspect wrong..i agree with you totally on this
 but you are totally right otherwise...gold for you
bitchin and moanin and being a general leach is not the way to make changes
it never has been

join your  local gov and start your campaign for change.
..it does work

you would be totally amazed at how much is truly done by the local council (?)
and you will laughingly see that    s h i t     can run uphill thur the ranks of those in office..

in local gov you know who to call and where to apply the pressure
and you can... we have.. it works
and when one small community joins with another things really roll

you can only start changing the world from your tiny spot..
and if you just sit there and bitch..all you get is labeled..


so fruitbat.. go run for something and make a difference the best way any of us can
meanwhile gold for you


Amy says
It was not "We" who did this.  It was the Ones with money/power.  Most of Us, if WE had the power, would NOT create the psychopathic planet We are captives within - or rather, They want Us to THINK We're captive.   

the only one holding you captive amy .. is yourself
we are not on a psychopathic planet we are on a learning one and it seems the only learning you are doing is self dulusional..you don't think you have any power
when in truth we are so individually powerfull we are scary to most others..
but only wehn you take responsibility for being able to wield such power  ~ will you
yep a circle
Title: Re: America's Being Nuked: Can Together We Stop the Madness?
Post by: WarToad on May 12, 2014, 07:15:20 am
You are wrong, Amy it is US who are responsible.

We the masses who ignored the warnings in the sixties, and who continue to buy the product in the quantity that we do.

Mumbling amongst ourselves here about how bad it is and how psychotic our leaders are, isn't doing squat.
...FB.
(Not going to be one of my more popular posts this one, I suspect...)

LOL  You're spot on.  Whining on the internet and making strongly worded facebook posts is part of the problem, not the solution.  Boots on the street is what makes changes.
Title: Re: America's Being Nuked: Can Together We Stop the Madness?
Post by: thorfourwinds on May 12, 2014, 01:24:43 pm
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Boots on the ground...July 4th, 2014...

May we share our vision of peace, love, healing and raising awareness to restore universal balance and harmony?


EARTH AID (http://www.thelivingmoon.com/forum/index.php?topic=1405.0) is dedicated to the creation of an interactive worldwide multimedia event to raise awareness about the challenges and solutions associated with nuclear energy.

This may very well be our last chance to voice our collective resolution to end the insanity of nuclear power to save ourselves and Mother Earth.

As only an educated, informed public can truly make a difference in today's world, we are challenged to raise our collective voice and work together to resolve this crisis, based on the foundation of Truth.


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Elapsed Time since March 11, 2011, 2:46 PM - Fukushima, Japan (http://www.timeanddate.com/countdown/generic?iso=20110311T1446&p0=2155)

The World Must Take Charge at Fukushima (http://www.thelivingmoon.com/forum/index.php?topic=5453.msg74364#msg74364)

“In a time of universal deceit
telling the truth is considered a revolutionary act."

George Orwell

Title: Re: America's Being Nuked: Can Together We Stop the Madness?
Post by: Sinny on May 12, 2014, 01:39:33 pm
You are wrong, Amy it is US who are responsible.

We the masses who ignored the warnings in the sixties, and who continue to buy the product in the quantity that we do.

Mumbling amongst ourselves here about how bad it is and how psychotic our leaders are, isn't doing squat.

We gotta get out there and start educating the proleteriat, whether they like it or not..

'Course, that takes more guts and time than whining to our mates on forums, so not many of us actually do it AT ALL.

Hence nothing gets changed. How many more fukushimas will it take before a sizeable amount of us are motivated to get off our backsides?

FB.
(Not going to be one of my more popular posts this one, I suspect...)

Well I for one wasn't even thought of, let alone born in the sixties.

Amy opinions may be flawed, but so are everyone else's. 

Internet posts do help, so do feet on the ground.

Title: Re: America's Being Nuked: Can Together We Stop the Madness?
Post by: Amaterasu on May 12, 2014, 07:52:36 pm
You are wrong, Amy it is US who are responsible.

We the masses who ignored the warnings in the sixties, and who continue to buy the product in the quantity that we do.

Mumbling amongst ourselves here about how bad it is and how psychotic our leaders are, isn't doing squat.

We gotta get out there and start educating the proleteriat, whether they like it or not..

'Course, that takes more guts and time than whining to our mates on forums, so not many of us actually do it AT ALL.

Hence nothing gets changed. How many more fukushimas will it take before a sizeable amount of us are motivated to get off our backsides?

FB.
(Not going to be one of my more popular posts this one, I suspect...)

I disagree.  What can a poor child do?  What can a stressed out parent trying to put food on the table do?  What is the defense against money doing as it will?  As Sinny points out, most are born with no power and no awareness.  Money calls the shots.

As for Your observation, sky, I presume You can say the same to the child starving to death.   ::)
Title: Re: America's Being Nuked: Can Together We Stop the Madness?
Post by: Fruitbat on May 13, 2014, 05:47:20 am
BUT I'm not speaking to children starving to death, I am speaking to the likes of yourself and sinny.
As to what any of us can do, we can make sure we educate people about the dangers.

How many people did YOU personally educate about nuclear matters this week?

I try to manage at least one per week, that's the minimum I'd expect anyone to do who is actually concerned about this and wants to make a difference.

IF money was so powerful there wouldn't be so many unhappy rich people.
Always remember: WE outnumber THEM

The problem is that most people have no idea that nuclear energy is as dangerous and mishandled as it is. Correcting that misapprehension requires no money, just a big mouth and commitment. 

IF you can tell me I'm wrong, then you can tell others that their understanding about matters nuclear are wrong. And if you convince the "normal" people, they are far more likely to spread the word than us "jaded" sorts... There's nothing like a fresh convert for showing a bit of zeal...

A young woman was complaining to me a few weeks back how internet forums "never make much difference". I agreed with her, it all gets (intellectually speaking) a bit incestuous. Its fairly obvious that you gotta reach out to Joe and Josephine Normal, if you want your opinion to go mainstream.

Or you could just complain about how powerless you are. There is ALWAYS a choice.

FB.
Title: Re: America's Being Nuked: Can Together We Stop the Madness?
Post by: Amaterasu on May 14, 2014, 01:51:00 pm
I surely have sent tweets out.  I don't meet People here in the woods to educate.  When online, I surely speak with any I "meet" about the nuclear lies and the fact that free energy has been hidden to support the money-making industries that allow control.

How many I reach is unknown.
Title: Re: America's Being Nuked: Can Together We Stop the Madness?
Post by: thorfourwinds on June 22, 2014, 06:35:21 pm
...I don't meet People here in the woods to educate...

Fortunately for the chipmunks, we do.    ;D

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Title: Re: America's Being Nuked: Can Together We Stop the Madness?
Post by: thorfourwinds on June 22, 2014, 08:04:04 pm
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SE8qQLiHACQ

New Fukushima Fallout Model: USA & Canada COVERED in Nuclear Fallout - 6/20/14


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New model shows Canada & USA Covered in Nuclear Fallout

http://youtu.be/X21rzXeleuQ


Global deposition of Cs-137 radionuclides from the Fukushima nuclear power plant accident.
http://vislab.cyi.ac.cy/portfolio/fukushima-fallout/


Fukushima Accident Fallout

http://youtu.be/ol98YUd8Jes

The recent model shows the Global deposition of Cs-137 radionuclides from the Fukushima nuclear power plant accident. It doesn't include the fact where ever there is Cs137 there is 100 times more strontium 90 or the many other man made atomic atoms and particles so lets fill in the gap.

Vislab modeled the global atmospheric dispersion and deposition of radionuclides released from the Fukushima Dai-ichi nuclear power plant accident.

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Global deposition of Cs-137 radionuclides from the Fukushima nuclear power plant accident.

The Cyprus Institute modeled the global atmospheric dispersion and deposition of radionuclides released from the Fukushima Dai-ichi nuclear power plant accident. The EMAC atmospheric chemistry -- general circulation model was used, with circulation dynamics nudged towards ERA-Interim reanalysis data.

They applied a resolution of approximately 0.5 degrees in latitude and longitude (T255). The model accounts for emissions and transport of the radioactive isotopes 131I and 137Cs, and removal processes through precipitation, particle sedimentation and dry deposition. In addition, we simulated the release of 133Xe, a noble gas that can be regarded as a passive transport tracer of contaminated air.

The source terms are based on Chino et al. (2011) and Stohl et al. (2012); especially the emission estimates of 131I are associated with a high degree of uncertainty. The calculated concentrations have been compared to station observations by the Comprehensive Nuclear-Test-Ban Treaty Organisation (CTBTO).

We calculated that about 80% of the radioactivity from Fukushima which was released to the atmosphere deposited into the Pacific Ocean. In Japan a large inhabited land area was contaminated by more than 40 kBq m-2. We also estimated the inhalation and 50-year dose by 137Cs, 134Cs and 131I to which the people in Japan are exposed.

Info for and by the fukushima hounds http://fukushimahounds.freeforums.net/

Canada Busted Covering Up Spikes In Fukushima Radiation
http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2013/12/canada-busted-lying-fukushima-radiation.html

TEPCO's Pictures of the nuclear accident from the beginning. Free for you to analyze and upload. http://photo.tepco.co.jp/en/date/2013/201302-e/130201-01e.html


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J6l2YxxQZz4

Fukushima Reactors #1 #2 #3 #4 #5 #6


"Plutopia: Nuclear Families, American Plutonium Disasters" - Kate Brown (http://www.booktv.org/Watch/15010/Plutopia+Nuclear+Families+Atomic+Cities+and+the+Great+Soviet+and+American+Plutonium+Disasters.aspx?)
Title: Re: America's Being Nuked: Can Together We Stop the Madness?
Post by: thorfourwinds on June 27, 2014, 05:34:53 pm
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Radioactive Cesium Being Detected In Wine; Where Does It Come From? (http://agreenroad.blogspot.com/2014/06/radioactive-cesium-being-detected-in.html)

The following NPR piece is about counterfeit wine, and how cesium levels in wine are used to expose 'fake' old wines.  This article further proves that nuclear industry provided radiation has been added to our foods and wines in increasing amounts over time.

Only a few people are aware of this, because these poisonous heavy metals and radioactive elements are invisible, odorless, tasteless and no human sense can detect them, even in lethal doses. However, this does not stop these poisons, as they bio concentrate back up to humans from the environment.


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Testing radioactive wine - YouTube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qKMpHobWNhw]Testing radioactive wine - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qKMpHobWNhw)

Via tpak June 4, 2014

"I started looking in Scientific American magazine," said Elroy, "and I found an article that Philippe Hubert, a French physicist, had written about using low-level gamma ray detection for cesium 137 to date wine. Cesium 137 did not exist on this planet until we exploded the first atomic bomb."

As physicist Philippe Hubert explains: "The cesium radioactivity we find in the wines reflects exactly the history of the Atomic Age. It is radioactive isotope, which is not natural. It's a fission product. First you had the development of the nuclear bomb: Hiroshima, Nagasaki. Then in the '50s and '60s, the Cold War between the U.S. and Soviets, and the nuclear atmospheric tests. Then in 1986 — the Chernobyl accident, which released a lot of cesium activity into the atmosphere. And then Fukushima Daiichi in Japan — we are following that."

This (man made) radioactivity is everywhere on Earth — in our food, clothing, the cells of our body. "It is in the atmosphere," says Hubert. "And then with rain this radioactivity falls on the grapes. When you make the wine, this comes into the wine and stays into the wine."

http://www.npr.org/blogs/thesalt/2014/06/03/318241738/how-atomic-particles-became-the-smoking-gun-in-wine-fraud-mystery


Just to be clear, this article is not claiming that any specific wines are not 'safe' to drink. Nor is it claiming that wines are all highly radioactive. The point being made by the NPR piece is that as the number of nuclear accidents increase, the amount of radiation released from all of these accidents, spills and just normal operations of nuclear reactors all increases the total global background radiation, despite the nuclear industry claims of 'dilution' as the solution. This increasing radiation can be documented and is evidence, as is being done with wines and ocean water for example.

This constantly increasing radiation and 'hot spots' in numerous locations around the world does have negative effects and negative consequences.


Background Radiation Has Increased 600 Percent - 1 mSv In 1950 To over 6 mSv In 2014; Where Is This Coming From?
http://agreenroad.blogspot.com/2014/03/background-radiation-has-increased-600.html

What the pro nuclear apologists really do not like to talk about is the concentration of these diluted radioactive elements up the food chain back to humans, including in our wines, milk, foods and animals used for food. All plants and animals bio concentrate radiation back up the food chain. Whatever humanity does to the web of life, comes back to humanity concentrated and multiplied.

Bioaccumulation Of Radiation In Fresh Water And Salt Water Fish After Chernobyl And Fukushima; via @AGreenRoad
http://agreenroad.blogspot.com/2013/04/bioaccumulation-of-radiation-in-fresh.html

Plutonium And Cesium Bio-Accumulates Up To 26,000 Times In Ocean Algae, Up To 5,570,000 Bq/Kg in Land Algae; via @AGreenRoad
http://agreenroad.blogspot.com/2013/04/plutonium-and-cesium-bio-concentrates.html

The take away is that the nuclear industry is contaminating our whole planet and all life on it with life destroying but invisible man made radioactive elements. No one can escape from this radioactive but invisible pollution, as it travels around the world.


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June 20, 2014
It has been well known internationally that the USA got hammered with C-137 from Fuku. It is still showing up in dairy products. Now as we watch the model the C-137 bleeds all over the world. This was modeled on 80 days…here we are 3.3 years in and the situation continues to deteriorate.

Paper from 2013 showing Fukushima radiation dispersal over the WORLD. This was posted in here in 2013….?http://www.atmos-chem-phys.net/13/1425/2013/acp-13-1425-2013.pdf

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News Flash: Man Discovers Fire?
News Flash: C-137 and other isotopes have poisoned the planet


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This is from an article about the new EPA regulations ..here concerning nuclear emissions.
EPA Hits Nuclear Power With Kryptonite?6/13/2014

"It turns out that a never-discussed radionuclide is at the center of these new rules.

Krypton-85. It’s never discussed because it’s never been considered a hazard. And it still isn’t a hazard. When this proposal came out of EPA, those of us in the field looked at each other and said “Huh?” I can see revisiting the big guns like the Pu and U series, Cs-137, C-14, Tc-99, and any of a host of nuclides that could be a problem in high enough concentrations."
http://www.forbes.com/sites/jamesconca/2014/06/13/epa-hits-nuclear-power-with-kryptonite/

Conca of course says..it's all good.
But it isn't.

Nuclear Industry’s Cover-Up, Lies And Denial: Beware of the French Nuclear Model
April 23 2011

"Two independent medical studies found elevated rates of leukemia among young people living around La Hague and similarly around Sellafield. The sea around La Hague has been measured 17 million times more radioactive than normal sea water.

La Hague routinely releases a highly toxic radioactive gases including concentrations of krypton-85 found at levels 90,000 times higher than in nature. Some 83 metric tons of plutonium is stored in La Hague, making it a very dangerous location."
http://www.mainstreamweekly.net/article2711.html
Title: Re: America's Being Nuked: Can Together We Stop the Madness?
Post by: thorfourwinds on December 07, 2014, 09:52:32 pm
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Any way to bump this thread   :P

Some sources tell us that it might be the rich Americans living in Mexico that are driving the market to new highs.     ;)

Some sources tell us it might be the rich Mexicans that thrive on the money sent from America to relatives in Mexico that have found a new high and are now able to afford what we here in-country take for granted.    ;).   :P

Whatever the case, this story sidesteps the real issue: Fukushima's 24/7/353 onslaught of fallout for 1,366 days - and counting - has drastically reduced the overall marijuana production - including the feeble attempt to mimic California's Emerald Triangle Green Gold (http://www.thelivingmoon.com/forum/index.php?topic=2643.msg91562#msg91562) - and reversed the flow of the river of pot.  Who'd thunk?   :P

The question that comes up: Is it harder to smuggle marijuana into Mexico than the United States and does One pay off the same people?    :o


DEA: Cartels Are Smuggling High-Grade US Cannabis Into Mexico AnonHQ (http://anonhq.com/dea-cartels-smuggling-high-grade-us-cannabis-mexico/)

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According to the DEA, marijuana trafficking in North America has done a complete turn-around, with Mexican cartels now importing high quality American weed into Mexico.

For the past few years local marijuana has actually become the dominant product on the market. The Mexican cartels must have noticed this business trend, so they quickly decided to start bringing the more popular product home to Mexico.

The DEA seems to be putting this issue forward as an argument against drug legalization, but if drugs were legal on both sides of the border, it would not matter where they were being transported.

A report on NPR suggested that the cartels were actually stealing the marijuana to then sell back home, but there has been no proof to substantiate these claims.

Oddly enough, the Mexican government isn’t concerned with this issue, as a vast majority of the countries in the world including Mexico, would actually prefer for drugs to be legal. Unfortauntely, the strict drug policy in the United States has been implemented worldwide through the United Nations, with a few small exceptions.


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Back in the day, most of the super nugs on the West Coast originated in Canada (http://seattletimes.com/html/localnews/2003095414_border30m.html). Some in California might try to argue that they have never let Canada weed infiltrate their state, due to the awesome weed that is grown in Northern California.

I am going to have to ask those people to put their pride aside. Northern California produces a significantly smaller amount of ‘super’ nugs, even to this day, when compared to Canada in the late 1990’s to 2006. ALL of the BC nugs were grown indoors, and although they weren’t uniform ‘super’ across the board, EVERY nug I saw from Canada was superior to the outdoor I see coming up from California now.

DVIDS - Video - Operation Frozen Timber (http://www.dvidshub.net/video/144923/operation-frozen-timber#.VIUdDEu1xFI)

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June 29, 2006 BELLINGHAM, Wash. – Calling it one of the most brazen criminal schemes ever uncovered along the U.S.-Canada border, authorities from the two countries today unveiled the results of a multi-agency operation targeting a network of smuggling organizations that used aircraft to ferry tons of drugs across the border, dropping many of the loads in broad daylight at remote wooded locations in Washington and British Columbia.

The targets of Operation Frozen Timber closely resembled a smuggling operation detailed in a story last year in Playboy magazine. Smugglers boasted of making $20 million a year — after expenses — and of being "better than Fed Ex."

"We pick up anywhere in the lower mainland and deliver anywhere in the state of Washington," a man referred to as Gentleman Jim told the magazine's reporter.

1st MMJ Company in Australia to Go Public (http://mmjbusinessdaily.com/investors-jump-at-australias-first-mj-public-offering/)
Marijuana Business Daily: Financial, Legal & Cannabusiness news for cannabis entrepreneurs

Australia is about the get its first publicly traded cannabis company.

Phytotech, a medical marijuana business based in the city of Perth in Western Australia, is moving forward with an initial public offering. The company wants to sell medical cannabis in several other countries and develop a disposable device to inhale marijuana.

It is seeking A$5 million (US$4.2 million) in its initial offering.
Interest has been strong: Investors so far have sought shares totaling A$15 million (http://news.yahoo.com/joint-venture-australia-marijuana-ipo-creates-market-buzz-080203815.html;_ylt=AwrSyCP1KH9UeE8AxCjQtDMD), with some wealthy individuals as far away as Russia and the United States wanting to buy in. This will likely allow the company to close the offering early, Reuters reported.

The 25 million shares are being offered at A$0.20 per unit, the minimum allowed by the Australian Securities Exchange.

Phytotech (http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/12/03/us-australia-ipo-cannabis-idUSKCN0JH0KO20141203) plans to grow medical-grade cannabis in Israel – the only country that allows exports of marijuana – for sale in the U.S., Canada and Europe.

It is also trying to get ahead of possible legal changes in Australia, where cultivation and sales are banned. Grow trials are underway in some areas of the country, and a measure to allow MMJ sales is before parliament, Reuters said.

Y'all do remember where we connected the BLM (Bureau of Land Management) with financing an Israeli hydroponic marijuana project… you should have been reading BundyGate more closely… :P


(http://www.thelivingmoon.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10005/learn_how_get_investors.jpg) (https://mmjbusinessdaily.com/funding/?utm_source=Site&utm_medium=Banner&utm_campaign=Funding)


Founder and executive director Ross Smith (http://news.yahoo.com/joint-venture-australia-marijuana-ipo-creates-market-buzz-080203815.html;_ylt=AwrSyCP1KH9UeE8AxCjQtDMD)

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Smith set up Phytotech in August to sell medicinal marijuana and develop a disposable device to inhale the drug. He envisions any advertising for the products to run along the lines of the ads for Nestle Nespresso coffee machines that feature Clooney.

"I'd be on the shore of Lake Como, puffing away and two beautiful women would come up and say, 'Is that a Phytotech?' and I'd say 'Why, yes'," Smith said with a laugh.

According to the IPO prospectus filed with the stock market regulator, Phytotech plans to grow medicinal grade marijuana in Israel, the only country that allows exports of the drug, for sale in the United States, Canada and Europe.

Smith, 51, who was convicted for possessing and cultivating marijuana in 1989, said the idea for the business came to him when he was offered medicinal grade marijuana while hiking in New Zealand last year.

"I'd broken my back previously and with a few puffs I could walk up and down mountains easily, carrying a heavy rifle and a deer or pig or whatever," he said.

What a life…I have never been offered medical grade sacrament when hiking the Appalachian Trail…although the local offerings were mighty fine… :P

Perhaps Matrix can fill us in on the medicinal aspects of New Zealand trails… ;D
Title: Re: America's Being Nuked: Can Together We Stop the Madness?
Post by: zorgon on December 08, 2014, 03:53:15 am
FUKUSHIMA wipes out Weed  who would thunk it?  :P

And HOW does THIS dog sniff out victims?

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Title: Re: America's Being Nuked: Can Together We Stop the Madness?
Post by: Glaucon on December 08, 2014, 11:59:21 am
Are their any on this forum who are proponents of any energy source?
Title: Re: America's Being Nuked: Can Together We Stop the Madness?
Post by: zorgon on December 08, 2014, 12:13:09 pm
Are their any on this forum who are proponents of any energy source?

Sure what you have in mind?

We just don't like wasting Nuke fuel to make a steam engine that is 'dirty'

 8)
Title: Re: America's Being Nuked: Can Together We Stop the Madness?
Post by: Glaucon on December 08, 2014, 12:15:38 pm
It beats burning coal, though!

I'm a big proponent for Nuclear energy. As soon as we get  little more dug-in on our Cyber security, I hope to see the nuclear industry rebound.
Title: Re: America's Being Nuked: Can Together We Stop the Madness?
Post by: ArMaP on December 08, 2014, 12:35:15 pm
Whatever the case, this story sidesteps the real issue: Fukushima's 24/7/353 onslaught of fallout for 1,366 days - and counting - has drastically reduced the overall marijuana production - including the feeble attempt to mimic California's Emerald Triangle Green Gold (http://www.thelivingmoon.com/forum/index.php?topic=2643.msg91562#msg91562) - and reversed the flow of the river of pot.  Who'd thunk?   :P

24/7/353?  ???
Title: Re: America's Being Nuked: Can Together We Stop the Madness?
Post by: WarToad on December 08, 2014, 12:39:56 pm
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Fukushima's 24/7/353 onslaught of fallout for 1,366 days - and counting - has drastically reduced the overall marijuana production

LOL!  I guess there is a silver lining.
Title: Re: America's Being Nuked: Can Together We Stop the Madness?
Post by: thorfourwinds on December 08, 2014, 04:26:08 pm
Just a cheap 'meter' to see if anyone actually reads this stuff.

Fruitbat is the one usually caught in the snare.

Thank you.    ;)
Title: Re: America's Being Nuked: Can Together We Stop the Madness?
Post by: zorgon on December 08, 2014, 04:56:51 pm
It beats burning coal, though!

Not really. Coal is cheap and easy to get and puts many miners to work. A simple SCRUBBER on the chimeney and you remove the sulphur smoke and can harvest that sulphur as pure ready to market.

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I'm a big proponent for Nuclear energy. As soon as we get  little more dug-in on our Cyber security, I hope to see the nuclear industry rebound.

I am totally against it for THREE REASONS

1) There is a limited supply of material on Earth

2) It is being used to BOIL WATER for a glorified steam engine

3) It produces so much toxic waste that is NOT being dealt with on ANY level that generations to come will curse us for

We can burn our trash to boil water (with a scrubber) and turn it to feretilizer

Paul Brown had invented a nuclear battery. This device ABSORBED radiation directly (similar to a solar cell) and left no waste In fact it could be used to remove (use) the radiation from contaminated material DIRECTLY

Well they killed him  buried his device

The problem is not security  The problem is greed Utilty companies that don't give a damn about the consequences

Fukushima: They told us everything was under control  even though WE knew they were in melt down on day one. What made it so bad was that TEPCo had gone CHEAP and instead of using a heat exchanger, they piped the radioactive water directly into the turbine. All you needed to do after the Tsunami hit was look at the pile of pipes that carried this water and you KNEW it was game over

As long as the Nuclear industry is run by private utilities... I say shut them down NOW before its too late

We here in Nevada made Yucca Mountain to store the stuff. That area is already saturated with nuclear waste from the bomb tests and will be for 25,000 years

So WHY are they not taking the waste there?  Because people are afraid it will cause problems transporting it... so they will leave it getting critical where it lies now

Hu-mons are basically stupid. It is a surprise we survived this long

What I support is FUSION research specifically HE# Fusion. All you need for that is cardboard for shielding. 25 tons of HE3 can power the entire US for a year 100 Tons the entire planet. There is enough of that stuff on the moon to power Earth for 10,000 years

And yes they already have working reactors... but I doubt the military will give them up yet :P


Title: Re: America's Being Nuked: Can Together We Stop the Madness?
Post by: thorfourwinds on December 08, 2014, 05:18:16 pm
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I'm a big proponent for Nuclear energy.

Greetings:

Really.

I'm not a proponent for nukes of any form, for over 40 years, boots on the ground.

What is Your take on the triple melt-throughs at Fukushima, 1,368 days ago?

To be fair, please share with us just 5 reasons nuclear energy is preferable over sustainable,
benign alternative power - wind, solar, geothermal, biomass, hydropower…

Might as well cut to the chase    :P

Please share with us Your plan to identify and dispose of the now-present 200,000 (and growing daily) tons of high-level waste, the stuff that was supposed to go to Yucca Mountain and what is being illegally buried at WIPP.    :'(

Here's a great infographic for discussion:

Nuclear vs Renewable Energy Infographic | CleanTechnica (http://cleantechnica.com/2011/08/05/nuclear-vs-renewable-infographic/)

Thank you for your time and consideration.

With great respect,

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tfw
Peace Love Light
Liberty & Equality or Revolution

Hec'el oinipikte  (that we shall live)

FUKUSHIMA FALLOUT CLOCK
Elapsed Time since March 11, 2011, 2:46 PM - Fukushima, Japan (http://www.timeanddate.com/countdown/generic?iso=20110311T1446&p0=2155)

The World Must Take Charge at Fukushima (http://www.thelivingmoon.com/forum/index.php?topic=5453.msg74364#msg74364)

“In a time of universal deceit
telling the truth is considered a revolutionary act."

George Orwell
Title: Re: America's Being Nuked: Can Together We Stop the Madness?
Post by: Glaucon on December 08, 2014, 05:41:09 pm
Not really. Coal is cheap and easy to get and puts many miners to work. A simple SCRUBBER on the chimeney and you remove the sulphur smoke and can harvest that sulphur as pure ready to market.

I am totally against it for THREE REASONS

1) There is a limited supply of material on Earth

2) It is being used to BOIL WATER for a glorified steam engine

3) It produces so much toxic waste that is NOT being dealt with on ANY level that generations to come will curse us for



What I support is FUSION research specifically HE# Fusion. All you need for that is cardboard for shielding. 25 tons of HE3 can power the entire US for a year 100 Tons the entire planet. There is enough of that stuff on the moon to power Earth for 10,000 years


For the sake of refuting your argument:
1.) There is a limited supply of all resources including any containing R.A. isotopes.

2.) That's a rather exaggerated characterization of Nuclear power generation. Currently, in the scale we both re using as context, any nuclear generated power requires some thermal expansion driven mechanical apparatus. I don't see how this affects the argument for or against other currently sustainable energy technology. (Yes, I'm aware of a myriad of potentially sustainable alternative energies that utilize resources mined from space. Energies who's byproducts are assets. )

Additionally, nuclear generation often allows spent materials to be processed to recover fissile and fertile materials.

3.)I can tell this point you feel strongly about. I don't agree with you, in fact I completely disagree but I don't want to enter into a semantics assessment.

Since the feds still seem to be following a negative trend line for funding R&D and acknowledging the fact as of right now, there is no alternative source of energy with the capacity to run our grid, what IS your lesser of evils?
Title: Re: America's Being Nuked: Can Together We Stop the Madness?
Post by: Glaucon on December 08, 2014, 05:52:37 pm
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Greetings:

Really.

I'm not a proponent for nukes of any form, for over 40 years, boots on the ground.

What is Your take on the triple melt-throughs at Fukushima, 1,368 days ago?

To be fair, please share with us just 5 reasons nuclear energy is preferable over sustainable,
benign alternative power - wind, solar, geothermal, biomass, hydropower…

Might as well cut to the chase    :P

Please share with us Your plan to identify and dispose of the now-present 200,000 (and growing daily) tones of high-level waste, the stuff that was supposed to go to Yucca Mountain and what is being illegally buried at WIPP.    :'(


;D ;D

You guys are so confrontational here.

I'm clearly taking a realist position and using it to dictate what facts and ideas form the domain that I formulate my opinion from.

Would I prefer renewable energy opposed economic Hydro-Carbon's and radioactive isotopes?
OF COURSE

I prefer pondering and basing my logic on the attainability of outcomes coupled to realistic notions of motivation  organizations with the operational capacity and economic interests possess.
Title: Re: America's Being Nuked: Can Together We Stop the Madness?
Post by: zorgon on December 08, 2014, 07:26:57 pm
You guys are so confrontational here.

Not really... just stating our opinions though Thor does tend to us NEON SIGNS

 ::)

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I'm clearly taking a realist position and using it to dictate what facts and ideas form the domain that I formulate my opinion from.

How do you know your reality is the correct one?

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Would I prefer renewable energy opposed economic Hydro-Carbon's and radioactive isotopes?

I would hope so :P

But let me ask you this...

Picture THIS scenario...

Canada Northern Ontario and Quebec  riddles with lakes

There is a river in each province that has one hydro electric damn on it,  The Canadian government did an environmetal impact study on the regions and determined that the rivers could handle at least 6 more dams in series without  affecting the environment

In fact it would be a POSITIVE effect creating lakes for fish and wild life and recreation.

So the Government figured that if they built the dams it would create nany jobs in the then job poor region. These dams would produce a HUGH amount of power. Since the same water can power all the damns in the chain there is no loss...

Hydro electric generation is basically FREE ENERGY as you are simply using a water wheel to turn some copper wired in a magnetic field

So the government figured that the energy hungry USA would be a great market for this energy.  So they approached the USA and said IF you guys put in the transmission lines we will sell you really cheap power

Well it never happened The single dam on that river zapps half the power generated into the ground because it has no where to go.

They COULD use that access to make a hydrolisis plant to make Hydrogen but last I checked it is still only exporting power at half capacity

So why waste the nuclear fuel is we don't have to?
Title: Re: America's Being Nuked: Can Together We Stop the Madness?
Post by: zorgon on December 08, 2014, 07:28:34 pm
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Title: Re: America's Being Nuked: Can Together We Stop the Madness?
Post by: thorfourwinds on December 08, 2014, 08:18:07 pm
NEON OFF

Greetings:

Please do not take earnest attempts to engage in spirited discussion as 'too' confrontational.

WE ARE ALL FRIENDS HERE.    ;D

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I'm clearly taking a realist position and using it to dictate what facts and ideas form the domain that I formulate my opinion from.

Only one domain? WNN (http://www.world-nuclear-news.org)? WNA (http://www.world-nuclear.org)? :P
Please share with what domain that may be, please, so we may become more informed.
I've got a great many to share with you.

OK, one question at a time, if you please.

What is Your take on the triple melt-throughs at Fukushima, 1,368 days ago?

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I prefer pondering and basing my logic on the attainability of outcomes coupled to realistic notions of motivation  organizations with the operational capacity and economic interests possess.

BTW, that is quite a statement!
We'll save it for later.

Thank you.

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Title: Re: America's Being Nuked: Can Together We Stop the Madness?
Post by: Glaucon on December 08, 2014, 09:10:09 pm
What is Your take on the triple melt-throughs at Fukushima, 1,368 days ago?[/b][/color]


I think these state sponsored foreign Cyber operations are getting a little out of hand. Especially when the traces left are arranged to implicate guilt on an innocent entity.
I can't know for sure, but I have a fair amount of information which shows it was a PLC attack similar to a worm-like AI (Think stuxnet but a process that employs kinetic damage as an autonomous system process). 

It's terrible, but I believe it to be true.
Title: Re: America's Being Nuked: Can Together We Stop the Madness?
Post by: zorgon on December 08, 2014, 09:40:05 pm
Ummm Fukushima was the melt down of three nuclear reactors...

...how is that connected to cyber operations?

Ex Prime Minister Kato confirmed that all there were in meltdown 8 hours after the Tsunami hit
Title: Re: America's Being Nuked: Can Together We Stop the Madness?
Post by: thorfourwinds on December 16, 2014, 08:21:32 pm
Fukushima HEARTBREAKING NEWS; NRA TELLS TEPCO TO DUMP ALL CONTAMINATED WATER INTO THE PACIFC OCEAN (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D_d3kyCNAQQ)

Published on Dec 15, 2014
THE PACIFIC GENOCIDE, GOES ON BALCO;
kevin D. banch 801-452-1908

"I was overwhelmed by the sheer number of tanks (holding water tainted with radioactive substances)," Tanaka told reporters, indicating they pose a danger to decommissioning work. "We have to dispose of the water."

Shunichi Tanaka, the chairman of the Nuclear Regulation Authority, made the comment Dec. 12.
http://ajw.asahi.com/article/0311disaster/fukushima/AJ201412130042

Congress will vote this week on a $1.1 trillion spending plan that would avert a U.S. government shutdown as Democrats agreed to roll back rules affecting banks, clean water and rest for truckers.

The deal was announced late yesterday after Democrats accepted Republican demands to undo some regulations including the banking provision, a big victory for Wall Street. It lets JPMorgan, Chase & Co., Citigroup Inc. and other lenders keep swaps trading in units with federal backstops.

http://www.eurosport.com/all-sports/fukushima-wants-to-host-olympic-events-in-2020_sto4515708/story.shtml#us-fb-sh
Title: Re: America's Being Nuked: Can Together We Stop the Madness?
Post by: thorfourwinds on December 21, 2014, 03:48:00 pm
I can't know for sure, but I have a fair amount of information which shows it was a PLC attack similar to a worm-like AI (Think stuxnet but a process that employs kinetic damage as an autonomous system process). 

Greetings:

In your due diligence, you will find that I actually spoke to the Marketing Director of that Israeli security company.

You are on the right track.

Come on back with that site you get your info from, please.
Title: Re: America's Being Nuked: Can Together We Stop the Madness?
Post by: thorfourwinds on January 24, 2015, 03:12:43 pm
It appears that someone is listening:

(http://www.thelivingmoon.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10005/NukePro_tfw_TLM.png)

Nuke Pro: Some good nuke links from the living moon (http://nukeprofessional.blogspot.com/2013/01/some-good-nuke-links-from-living-moon.html)

Sunday, January 27, 2013
Some good nuke links from the living moon

Check out EARTH AID and let's join forces:
Earth Aid
http://www.thelivingmoon.com/forum/index.php?topic=1405.0

All-time Darwin Award: The Nuclear Industry
http://www.thelivingmoon.com/forum/index.php?topic=182.msg46025#msg46025

Do Citizens of Earth Have the Right to a Radiation-free Environment?
http://www.thelivingmoon.com/forum/index.php?topic=1177.0#top

FukuGate - We've Been Conned
http://www.thelivingmoon.com/forum/index.php?topic=3007.0

Wasting Away - The Nukes in Your Backyard
http://www.thelivingmoon.com/forum/index.php? topic=2726.msg37754;topicseen#new

Fukushima, Pandora's Box and the Nuclear Demon
http://www.thelivingmoon.com/forum/index.php?topic=2168.0

"I Have Become Death, the Destroyer of Worlds"
http://www.thelivingmoon.com/forum/index.php?topic=1574.0

Radiation Watch 2012
http://www.thelivingmoon.com/forum/index.php?topic=1218.msg12638#msg12638]

"NukaTuna" - The Last Fish in the Ocean
http://www.thelivingmoon.com/forum/index.php?topic=1442.0

Fukushima Tsunami Meltdown Debris Field ETA America Summer 2012?
http://www.thelivingmoon.com/forum/index.php?topic=1376.0

San Onofre - America's Fukushima?
http://www.thelivingmoon.com/forum/index.php?topic=2245.0

It's all tied together:

Mutated Fish, Eyeless Shrimp, Clawless Crabs: GOM Fisheries Devastated
http://www.thelivingmoon.com/forum/index.php?topic=1153.msg19077#msg19077

Peace Love Light
thorfourwinds

Posted by Stock at 3:07 PM
Title: Re: America's Being Nuked: Can Together We Stop the Madness?
Post by: thorfourwinds on February 01, 2015, 06:48:07 pm
Shut It Down Now! Former Humboldt PG&E IBEW 1245 Nuclear Plant Technician Bob Rowen On Nuclear Power - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?x-yt-cl=85114404&x-yt-ts=1422579428&v=-d4TisLh6UM)


Shut It Down Now! Former Nuclear Plant Technician Bob Rowen on Nuclear Power (http://truth-out.org/news/item/28840-shut-it-down-now-former-nuclear-plant-technician-bob-rowen-on-nuclear-power)

Published on Jan 29, 2015
Bob Rowen was a Humboldt PG&E IBEW 1245 nuclear control technician at the power plant. He talks about being a control technician at the plant and what happened when he began to stand up for health and safety as a whistleblower.

His fight to protect the workers and the community cost him his job when he raised health and safety concerns and he along with another nuclear control technician Forrest Williams were retaliated against and illegally terminated.

He also recounts an effort to set up a criminal conspiracy frame-up by PG&E to charge him with planning to blow up the plant and a false document was sent to the FBI to blacklist him throughout the country to prevent him from working in any other nuclear plant in the US.

He also reports on the role of his union IBEW 1245 and the media when a reporter from NBC Donald Widener tried to cover the story and was retaliated against by PG&E in actions that destroyed his career.
 
?He also discusses the case of PG&E Diablo Canyon nuclear plant whistleblower Niel Aiken. Aiken went to PG&E's Board of Directors with his concerns over safety and was also targeted and fired.

This interview was done on January 26, 2015.

Rowen has written a book about his struggle called My Humboldt Diary: A True Story of Betrayal of the Public Trust, Nuclear Power at Humboldt Bay.


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For more information
www.myhumboldtdiary.com

http://www.northcoastjournal.com/humboldt/the-not-so-peaceful-atom/Content?oid=2126811

http://santamariatimes.com/news/opinion/editorial/commentary/diablo-canyon-and-the-question-of-safety/article_8d17a074-e02e-11e0-8680-001cc4c002e0.html

http://www.sfgate.com/news/article/Nu...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lJjbN...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=77vku…

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yrphD43DPFw

Production of Labor Video Project www.laborvideo.org
Title: Re: America's Being Nuked: Can Together We Stop the Madness?
Post by: thorfourwinds on July 26, 2015, 07:20:19 pm
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Title: Re: America's Being Nuked: Can Together We Stop the Madness?
Post by: thorfourwinds on August 11, 2015, 08:30:12 pm
Fukushima breaking news; Thyroid Epidemic breaks out in The San Francisco Bay Area;; 8/11/2015 - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dOZpi-TcAvA)

kevin blanch
Published on Aug 11, 2015

THE new Plague CANCER, the WAR HAS STARTED, nuclear restart in JAPAN,NEVER FORGET THIS DATE, AUG 9 -10 11 1945 , 2015
http://www.gofundme.com/sdc76s
https://www.patreon.com/user?u=968570…

As the FAT MAN AND HIS FAT WIFE, the United States department of energy a.k.a. the NUCLEAR CARTEL PISS ON ALL CANCER VICTIMS AND THERE FAMILY'S, Thyroid Epidemic breaks out in The San Francisco Bay Area;;

https://youtu.be/TMWZp1ZEZ18
salt lake tribune promotes mass murderer AS HE lol,
AT ALL Utahans mass murdered by this monster, watch this video
THEY THINK DEATH VIA LEUKEMIA IS FUNNY;;;
I WONT STOP THERE;;
Title: Re: America's Being Nuked: Can Together We Stop the Madness?
Post by: thorfourwinds on May 04, 2016, 08:26:58 pm
Lest we forget:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SvVtOyNgMWk

Japan Nuclear energy radiation fallout the TRUTH AND REALITY
3/14/11 kevin d blanch
Title: Re: America's Being Nuked: Can Together We Stop the Madness?
Post by: thorfourwinds on July 18, 2016, 05:47:02 pm
Fukushima Update: Contagious Cancer Cells in Ocean Infecting Several Species Suspect? (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fE8s6KihXtE)

Strontium Milks
Published on Jul 16, 2016

All along the western Canadian coast, mussels are dying.

Their blobby bodies are swollen by tumors. The blood-like fluid that fills their interiors is clogged with malignant cells. They're all sick with the same thing: cancer. And it seems to be spreading.

For all its harrowing, terrifying damage, the saving grace of cancer has always been that it dies with its host. Its destructive power comes from turning victims' own cells against them and making them run amok.

But when molecular biologist Stephen Goff biopsied these mussels, he found something strange.

The tumor cells didn't have the same DNA as their host. Instead, every mussel was being killed by the same line of cancerous cells, which were jumping from one individual to the next like a virus. The mussels, as well as two other species of bivalve examined by Goff and his colleagues, are dying from contagious cancer.

Scientists just doubled the number of known contagious cancers - The Washington Post (https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/speaking-of-science/wp/2016/06/22/scientists-just-doubled-the-number-of-known-contagious-cancers/)
Title: Re: America's Being Nuked: Can Together We Stop the Madness?
Post by: thorfourwinds on February 12, 2017, 02:17:58 pm
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=psb9nPu2xV8&spfreload=10

NEW VIDEO/Fukushima/160 Tons of Melted Fuel Rods Escaped Containment Vessel

BPEarthWatch
Published on Feb 5, 2017
Finally they admit why the massive marine deaths are occurring in the Pacific.
Title: Re: America's Being Nuked: Can Together We Stop the Madness?
Post by: thorfourwinds on July 15, 2018, 03:30:48 pm
A great way to wake this thread up... I will provide updates specific to America in a bit, as I am hampered by the fact that my main Mac got sideswiped in a rabbit hole and the Mac shop is hours away. Perhaps next week.  :-[


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kCNvE7sDDpc

Fukushima news; Paralympics to be held @ FUKUSHIMA J VILLAGE, as natural as Occupying a BIRD refugee

kevin blanch
Published on Jul 10, 2018
Title: Re: America's Being Nuked: Can Together We Stop the Madness?
Post by: thorfourwinds on July 16, 2018, 05:18:55 pm
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9uAPCM9oNh8

FUKUSHIMA: PLUMEGATE -- Hatrick Penry
Title: Re: America's Being Nuked: Can Together We Stop the Madness?
Post by: petrus4 on July 17, 2018, 12:44:20 am
Ah, Fukushima doom porn.  The gift that keeps on giving.  Although when it comes to incentives for curling up into a foetal position on the floor, I'm still more a fan of sentient artificial intelligence, personally.  Ray Kurzweil is probably my favourite personification of the Grim Reaper, although Milton Friedman is up there.  Global warming works pretty well as a catalyst for suicidal ideation too, I've found.

The idea of a global Islamic invasion used to do it for me, but that one has grown a little stale of late; as has nuclear Armageddon.  There are people who prefer Nibiru, but I've never seen credible evidence for that.

Which is your manic depressive poison of choice, guys?
Title: Re: America's Being Nuked: Can Together We Stop the Madness?
Post by: fansongecho on July 17, 2018, 01:10:33 am

Hi Petrus4,

Fukushima, then the Islamification of UK/Europe, these two topics piss me off to the Nth degree, mostly because I cant do anything about either of them, but the biggest subject that really grinds my gears is the continental sized garbage patches in the Atlantic and Pacific, those ones …  are my biggest downer m8.

Cheers,

Fansongecho  :(
Title: Re: America's Being Nuked: Can Together We Stop the Madness?
Post by: ArMaP on July 17, 2018, 05:45:05 am
Which is your manic depressive poison of choice, guys?
Me. :)
Title: Re: America's Being Nuked: Can Together We Stop the Madness?
Post by: space otter on July 17, 2018, 06:48:35 am

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Which is your manic depressive poison of choice, guys?

 ::)

posts like this  that perpetrate the negative instead of accentuating the positive of something or anything


look closely and if you can’t make a dent in the problem ..move on

there are plenty of things you can do if you stop dwelling in the muck of humanity

geeeeeeeze already
Title: Re: America's Being Nuked: Can Together We Stop the Madness?
Post by: petrus4 on July 17, 2018, 11:20:03 am
::)

posts like this  that perpetrate the negative instead of accentuating the positive of something or anything

I agree.  That's why I referred to Fukushima with the phrase "doom porn."  The implication being that that and the other topics I listed, are only really good for perpetuating hysteria and fear, and aren't really productive.
Title: Re: America's Being Nuked: Can Together We Stop the Madness?
Post by: petrus4 on July 17, 2018, 11:31:58 am
the Islamification of UK/Europe

While I am aware that this is genuinely happening to an extent, I think the real reason for it is to drive the European population in the direction of fascism; to attempt to cause them to actually want xenophobic, authoritarian forms of government.

This is why I don't focus on that topic myself any more; because I think it's actually a conspiracy, and the Muslims are being used as pawns, even though they usually don't seem to realise it themselves.  Something which you will hear advocates of fascism openly talking about, is that it requires external threats or scapegoats in order to survive, because if neither of those are present, then people start wanting their freedom back.

So if Islam is presented as a bogeyman, and Muslims are manipulated into validating that image, then governments can use that as an excuse to create dystopian societies.  The flap about immigration in America is the same thing.  If Trump can whip the public up into a terrified, enraged froth about the supposed South American hordes invading, then he can turn the country into a locked down fortress, complete with daily curfews and eventually martial law, and the best part is that he'll have public consent to do it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ylvAOs4OAvE
Title: Re: America's Being Nuked: Can Together We Stop the Madness?
Post by: fansongecho on July 17, 2018, 03:02:10 pm
@Spaceotter & Petrus4 - respectfully, I contend, there is no positive to come from Fukushima UNTIL it is contained / cleared up.. which in my humble opinion wont be like the Chernobyl's mega tomb, and it will take a lot more resources to do so - if ever.  :(

Also, the Islamification issue, is not widely reported in the lamestream or in alternate media, people in the UK and my friends abroad and myself, see this as a ridiculous bending over backwards to NOT offend the muslim communities in the UK and abroad .. but it is real, and the thousands of white girls raped by muslim men is being suppressed on purpose.

I posted elsewhere in the forum the gangs in Newcastle, Middlesbrough, Leeds, Bradford, Telford, Oxford, Barnsley, Wakefield, it is happening on an industrial scale, it is not a conspiracy - it is real and happening right now, across the UK, Sweden, France and Germany, and I really do believe that the populations of those countries, will within the next 5 years start to take matters in to their own hands, and it is just a matter of time before we see blood baths in those countries as the population take their revenge.  >:(

Its coming, its not if, but when.

Respectfully,

Fansongecho  :(
Title: Re: America's Being Nuked: Can Together We Stop the Madness?
Post by: space otter on July 17, 2018, 07:53:36 pm


Dear Fans

please understand that i am not questioning  any of what you or others  have said..

 i was only answering one question that pets r us ask with my opinion on that one question

yes there are tons of bad things happening in the world and i don't disagree that they need to be handled

but i quoted  the one question i was giving my opinion on
perhaps i don't understand  the meaning of
 
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manic depressive poison of choice

the of choice part was why i gave it as my opinion

please do not take offence where none was intended

pets r us and i have gone round about things for years now
and sometime i miss read his intend
but by his reply i think we are on the same page with this

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I agree.  That's why I referred to Fukushima with the phrase "doom porn."  The implication being that that and the other topics I listed, are only really good for perpetuating hysteria and fear, and aren't really productive.

different ages, genders, place of origins can sometimes be
misconstrued as disagreements when they are really just us being us  :D

i can't tell you how long it took me to get the m8 thing..bwhahahahahah
Title: Re: America's Being Nuked: Can Together We Stop the Madness?
Post by: fansongecho on July 17, 2018, 11:23:34 pm

Hi Space, sorry I may well have picked up your context incorrectly m8 LOL  :)

No drama's - I really do wish there was someway I could engage with the likes of Elon Musk, Branson, that rich twat who owns Amazon and do something about the oceans of plastic out there tho'

Have a top day Space  :)
x
//
@ArMaP, just picked up on your latest comment on this and Proper LOL m8  :) :)
Title: Re: America's Being Nuked: Can Together We Stop the Madness?
Post by: petrus4 on July 18, 2018, 02:10:45 am
but it is real, and the thousands of white girls raped by muslim men is being suppressed on purpose.

This does not surprise me.  More than anything else, Islam is rape of the soul.  It is therefore logical and predictable that Muslims would also commit rape of the body.  As above, so below.