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Just So You Know...
« on: February 09, 2012, 01:32:13 am »
I pondered putting this here...decided I needed the catharsis.
 This is what I discovered today trying to log on to...that OTHER board.




« Last Edit: February 09, 2012, 02:21:01 am by zorgon »
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Re: Just So You Know...
« Reply #1 on: February 09, 2012, 04:56:52 am »
What is/ was the reason behind your banning? Just because you're on this forum??

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Re: Just So You Know...
« Reply #2 on: February 09, 2012, 09:04:24 am »
Understand, first, I was there since 2006 and was a "silver" contributor.

First I got post-banned for linking to a thread of Mine about electrogravitics...

Then I got post-banned for suggesting a search parameter to find My work - "spamming..."

I asked how I might keep My work from being buried there - didn't get an answer, just got told basically I was a megalomaniac.  I said (in U2U) that if I couldn't repeat My information, couldn't link to it, and couldn't suggest how to find the information, ATS was a waste of My time.  "Bye," I said.

I did not try to go back until yesterday - and discovered I was permabanned.

Why?  You got Me.
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Re: Just So You Know...
« Reply #3 on: February 09, 2012, 11:58:49 am »
Just me.... but could it be your passion for the word
" electrogravitic" ???    ;)

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Re: Just So You Know...
« Reply #4 on: February 09, 2012, 12:26:54 pm »
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Just me.... but could it be your passion for the word
" electrogravitic" ???    ;)

Possibly :P

ATS is back up  had to get a password reset myself. Still no explanation of what happened.

Looking at the posts though... if the internet were to shut down for a week, the world would end

LOL Maybe THAT is the disaster for 2012 :D

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Re: Just So You Know...
« Reply #5 on: February 09, 2012, 12:30:32 pm »
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Why?  You got Me.

About all you can do is write Springer and ask.

But the "banned from ATS' list is a very very long list. Most of the people I knew that were fun to talk with there are gone. Mostly the hard core skeptics remain and a hoard of Twitter heads :P

Linking to facebook, twitter and google plus may generate traffic, but you lose your identity in the noise

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Re: Just So You Know...
« Reply #6 on: February 09, 2012, 12:39:02 pm »
I just try to offer a solution and get banned for doing so.  [shrug]

Yeah, zorg, I'm not going to bother.  If I repeat the information, I'm "spamming," if I link to a thread with the info, I'm "spamming," if I suggest search parameters, I'm "spamming."  So My work there is buried.  [shrug]

I can't even mention My petition (and no, didn't mention it even in U2U's - T&C, don't ya know).

So...  I move on.

To MUCH greener pastures.  [smile]
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Re: Just So You Know...
« Reply #7 on: February 09, 2012, 01:28:23 pm »
I just made a post in the board thread in response to someone who thought they were banned with that mess last night.

I posted that banned picture you saw and said if you were banned you would know because you would see this...

Well a few minutes later my post has this...



 ::)

In another recent thread a new member made a thread about this;
"Origin of Ancient Jade Tool Baffles Scientists"

The article originally is from Live Science, but the link was from this site
http://www.sott.net/articles/show/240676-Origin-of-Ancient-Jade-Tool-Baffles-Scientists

Apparently that site is one of the ones that is on ATS's bad list (I never hear of this one before) So what happens is that ATS Robots spot the link and then automatically delete the post and replace it with this



First time I ever saw that one  :o And the same with many others because that thread suddenly went wild and everyone forgot about the topic.  Those banners do nothing but distract. A simple edit to a proper link would have solved the drama issue instead of escalated it.

Here is the thread for anyone wanting to have a look at the mess;
Origin of Ancient Jade Tool Baffles Scientists

The topic is cool and I will post it in Ancient Civilizations later today
« Last Edit: February 10, 2012, 04:42:06 pm by zorgon »

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Re: Just So You Know...
« Reply #8 on: February 09, 2012, 01:30:53 pm »
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My advice, stay away from there.


I second that advice..

After the last few days it is time to avoid the place. Something is going down. We are discussing it in Mod Chat right now...

ATS explanation thread of their hack by what appears to be Anonymous was just DELETED about an hour ago. People were already concerned over the password issue... this will likely cause a meltdown

More info coming as soon as I sort it out

BTW one of the tags I showed from ATS had a tracker hidden in it. I changes it using a screen saver version. More than one way to skin a cat :D

Dirty pool that... especially since THIS area is open to view by guests  :o
« Last Edit: February 10, 2012, 05:31:00 pm by zorgon »
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Re: Just So You Know...
« Reply #9 on: February 09, 2012, 01:58:54 pm »
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Lol, Zorgon, your an old spook site junkie (LOL) from way back. I dunno how you managed all these years over there. I know you like the thrill of madness but, come on, your in a new time and different place. But thats you.

Simple old friend...

1) I have a LOT of my work over there that never got put on the website and I need to move some more of it
2) It was THE place that gave me all my real time contacts just by my being there. That now has changed so it is no longer an issue
3) It is good to have a presence behind front lines as it were
4) having my own website gives me a defensive tool :D


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Sott.net is Ark & laura knight jadczyk arch rival of the cointel crowd spook site. Ya, there's bad blood there allright.

Thanks for that Information is power :D

But yeah  time to break old habits is upon me ;)

Also considering making the entire forum "No Guest Viewing... must join"

Thoughts everyone?
« Last Edit: February 10, 2012, 05:36:12 pm by zorgon »
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Re: Just So You Know...
« Reply #10 on: February 09, 2012, 03:37:46 pm »
Zorg...

They are getting more and more brazen.  One of the friends I made who eventually became a Mod said that He stays away from things there mostly because "thing are...changing."

Indeed!

Back when I started, I was encouraged.  I was allowed to link My threads.  But I guess My awareness expanded beyond Their comfort zone, and now I am to be silenced.  There, at any rate.

Leaving under a perma-ban is the best thing you could do in life, from that spook place. ...

My advice, stay away from there.

Thanks, Gigas.  I seem to remember You from way back.  Yeah, I'm not emailing that addy They offer.  Not going to give Them the satisfaction.  Just gone from there.  Period.

It's better here.  As in night and day!  We will reap the cream of the crop!
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Re: Just So You Know...
« Reply #11 on: February 09, 2012, 04:05:10 pm »
Seems its confirmed  ATS was hacked...

Stay tuned for updates... I can't post all I know openly yet..

We don't need and "Imperial Entanglements" :D

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Re: Just So You Know...
« Reply #12 on: February 09, 2012, 04:43:00 pm »
Bated breath, zorg.  Bated breath.
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Re: Just So You Know...
« Reply #13 on: February 09, 2012, 05:33:13 pm »
Bout time someone dropped one on them.

Another place as deeply nefarious is that god like productions. I never saw a nuttier place than that. They ban people for no reason at all.

Seems If I can recall something I came across long ago and that was Alpha Tango Spookz and amcon and glp were tied in with the spook site. I had found the same activity at all three where they place 0 gif tracking beacons on logins.

I stay away from amcon, the spook site and GLP since being perma banned last year over that friggin telescope thing. They posted a thread showing the new fangled contraption videoing the moon. I notice the shadows were wrong as well as the movement of the moon. It was going right to left when it should have been left to right. The moon vid was rotated 180, thus backwards. BAM!, I get perma banned.

OK, I confess, I drop into glp to read the "I am the real John Lear" thread. But I refuse to post. Ya have to admire that John Lear for all the BS he gets from the assassins.
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Re: Just So You Know...
« Reply #14 on: February 09, 2012, 08:12:14 pm »
Open Minds, ATS, AmKon and Serpo... toss in Bill Ryan to the mix and a few others... it was quite a feud from what I have seen in archives. The wounds were deep, seems some never healed.

Can't they all just get along?

 ::)

Most of that happened just before my time... I caught the tail end of it. A lot was still flying around when Reality Unlimited was created as a haven for the baddies banned from ATS. You can still see it there under Serpo and ATS bashing threads without logging in

As to the current issue

Seems someone claiming to be Anonymous hacked the user files via a third party client, their new video hosting site. This allowed the to gain access to a portion of the passwords, user names and emails.

That file was then posted on a website with the first 70 names and passwords in the post. The passwords however were encrypted so didn't show the actual password. The big file with 8.5 K members was posted to download.

That has since been removed for violation

Here is the site

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Abovetopsecret.com SQLI!
Credit goes to the_c0br4 for finding this sqli vuln.
 
This database is really huge, 70 accounts just there, and it isn't even past number 1. LOL

http://video.abovetopsecret.com/sbplayer.php?vid=-Inject-Here-7980

(sqli vuln has been fixed)

Account Dump! http://www.mediafire.com/?82ir1zh39abnmuk
 
Over 8.5k Users, Passwords and Emails.

http://pastebin.com/fxcVKbn0

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File Removed for Violation.

The file you requested has been removed from MediaFire for a violation of our Terms of Service or our Acceptable Use Policy

So how long this was out there and how many downloaded it was unknown... best course of action was to dump all passwords and have everyone request new passwords as a precaution.

The problem with Anonymous is anyone can put on a mask and make a claim. ATS for the most part has supported their cause, so it makes no sense.

Biggest issue was people with old emails who never updated them. They had no way to get a new password.  A point to remember :D
« Last Edit: February 09, 2012, 08:35:48 pm by zorgon »

 


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