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those achie joints
« on: November 03, 2011, 04:55:09 pm »
well i didn't want to go off topic yet again by addressing this in the other thread

Actually they are all cramped right now   too much typing and manual labor... the old joints ain't what they used to be 

and i don't see a place for health stuff or anywhere other than here that this would fit

sooooooooooo
let me start off by saying that i am not in any way shape or form giving medical advice here...
don't want to be carted to the slammer for practicing without a license

but i would like to share some things that i do know to work for me and a few others...
which doesn't mean it would work for you..but if you would like to quack yourself
let me share some ideas

i also have some older joints that for many reasons need a little help here's are a few of the things i have tried and use

1.  apple cider vinegar
yeah sounds dumb but it rinses out bacteria that like to sit in joints
 most recommendations i have read about are a teaspoon in some warm water
but try whatever feels right for you

2. i have a friend who takes glucosamine and swears by it

3. this is one i have used for pulled muscles as well as painful joints
works great for sprained ankles too..but only after day five after a course of hot and cold (ice)

it is the edgar cayce oil pack
>you saturate a cloth..perferrably white and better yet white wool
with some cold pressed castor oil
>find a comfy place to sit or recline for 10 minutes or more
>place the saturated cloth directly on the  joint or muscle
>place a piece of clear plastic wrap on top of that
>place a light weigh towel over it and then a heating pad or hot water bottle
on top of that...heatin pad to med but not higher
>sit back and enjoy..meditate..read...doze..just stop for a bit

the cloth with the oil can be reused by placing it into a zip lock plastic bag
to get the gooey oil off of you..vinegar, hot soap and water.

here's where i order mine from if you are interested..best price i've found and
excellent quality on all their stuff..you can lso get it at most helath stores but
 make sure it is cold pressed
www.puritan.com

hit the dang send button instead of preview..grrrr

also some interesting things here
http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=gut-bacteria-can-trigger-rheumatoid-arthritis-in-mice

and here
http://www.baar.com/castoroilinstruct.shtml


« Last Edit: November 03, 2011, 04:57:43 pm by sky otter »

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Re: those achie joints
« Reply #1 on: December 13, 2011, 07:01:33 pm »
Great thread, just found it..... ;)

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« Reply #2 on: January 16, 2012, 06:28:21 pm »
 :)I use glucosamine,I was hit by a car while on my bicycle and trashed my knee.Until I found glucosamine I was a limpin' MFer

I have found that the sulfate version is best , the HCL version did little or nothing for me ,also take vitamin "c" and fish oil, helps the glucosamine work better.
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Re: those achie joints
« Reply #3 on: January 16, 2012, 09:58:38 pm »
 :)

Hoss
really give the oil pak a try..you're worth a 30 minute session, aren't ya...

the glousamine is a good product but it can be enhanced with the oil pak
and if you can get to a health food store the cold pressed castor oil ususally
 has the instructions right on the bottle
(the one i buy on line does)

get yourself a nice beverage and a comfy seat
then put your leg up and proceed to do the oil and heat..

if you feel you want to  experiment
add this to the oil treatment time
take three deep breaths and ask for whatever color is needed to heal the knee
then sit back and rest for a bit


the worst case is you get 30 minutes of down time from the world
best case..i'm sure you can figure that part out

if you try it..please let me know what you thought of it....
i use it on my hubby when he messes his back up..it works

 :)
« Last Edit: January 16, 2012, 10:03:43 pm by sky otter »

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« Reply #4 on: February 13, 2012, 07:00:30 pm »
Thanks for the info, otter!

Isn't it sad that One cannot recommend natural, organic, non-toxic solutions without the fear of being accused of "giving medical advice" without a license???

What a sick world We live in.  I wonder what I can prescribe to the world...  Oh, yeah.  Electrogravitics!  LOL!

Ooops!  I'm practicing medicine on the world without a license!
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Re: those achie joints
« Reply #5 on: February 13, 2012, 07:16:16 pm »
When vets start prescribing glucosamine for aging doggies you know the stuff works. My oldest Yorkie couldn't get from point a to point b without it.....with it he acts and plays like a pup. The thing about that is that no " sugar pill" fix-all works for dogs. They live in the moment..... not in their heads.... sometimes a very good thing to learn!   Linda

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« Reply #6 on: February 20, 2012, 06:09:03 am »
I like this thread!  The apple cider vinegar that was mentioned also provides vitamin c, which helps collagen production.  Collagen is a building block of connective tissues like cartilage.  I haven't had a lot of success with glucosamine, but I don't think I've tried the sulfate variety.  It may have better bioavailability.  I've been using valerian latelty.   It  seems like it's settling some of the muscle spasms.  It can have a mild sedative effect, so bear that in mind if you decide to try it.

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Re: those achie joints
« Reply #7 on: February 20, 2012, 09:09:42 am »


Hi Shasta
nice to meet ya here

if you are having muscle cramping try some tonic water ..you can get it in most
grocery storres in the soda section or bar supplies ...
it has quinine and works wonders..it's a cheap fix

and on the vit C..get the ones that have bioflavanoids..that is the ingredient
found in the white part under the peel  and are most beneficial
otter

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« Reply #8 on: February 22, 2012, 10:03:53 pm »
I like this thread!  The apple cider vinegar that was mentioned also provides vitamin c, which helps collagen production.  Collagen is a building block of connective tissues like cartilage.  I haven't had a lot of success with glucosamine, but I don't think I've tried the sulfate variety.  It may have better bioavailability.  I've been using valerian latelty.   It  seems like it's settling some of the muscle spasms.  It can have a mild sedative effect, so bear that in mind if you decide to try it.

Shasta
I swear by the sufate type of glucosamine. I started out with the cheap stuff from the drugstore but the effect  leveled off right away. So I switched to the sulfate after some research. I get mine from GNC store. You are right about vitamin C , that and fish oil all combine for a good result.
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« Reply #9 on: February 23, 2012, 03:40:18 am »
Hey otterpop,
Nice to meet you too.  I miss the days when quinine tablets were available at the pharmacy.  At this point, I think I'll stick with my robaxin plus a calcium magnesium supplement.

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Re: those achie joints
« Reply #10 on: February 23, 2012, 03:53:42 am »
well i didn't want to go off topic yet again by addressing this in the other thread

Actually they are all cramped right now   too much typing and manual labor... the old joints ain't what they used to be 

and i don't see a place for health stuff or anywhere other than here that this would fit

sooooooooooo
let me start off by saying that i am not in any way shape or form giving medical advice here...
don't want to be carted to the slammer for practicing without a license

but i would like to share some things that i do know to work for me and a few others...
which doesn't mean it would work for you..but if you would like to quack yourself
let me share some ideas

i also have some older joints that for many reasons need a little help here's are a few of the things i have tried and use

1.  apple cider vinegar
yeah sounds dumb but it rinses out bacteria that like to sit in joints
 most recommendations i have read about are a teaspoon in some warm water
but try whatever feels right for you

2. i have a friend who takes glucosamine and swears by it

3. this is one i have used for pulled muscles as well as painful joints
works great for sprained ankles too..but only after day five after a course of hot and cold (ice)

it is the edgar cayce oil pack
>you saturate a cloth..perferrably white and better yet white wool
with some cold pressed castor oil
>find a comfy place to sit or recline for 10 minutes or more
>place the saturated cloth directly on the  joint or muscle
>place a piece of clear plastic wrap on top of that
>place a light weigh towel over it and then a heating pad or hot water bottle
on top of that...heatin pad to med but not higher
>sit back and enjoy..meditate..read...doze..just stop for a bit

the cloth with the oil can be reused by placing it into a zip lock plastic bag
to get the gooey oil off of you..vinegar, hot soap and water.

here's where i order mine from if you are interested..best price i've found and
excellent quality on all their stuff..you can lso get it at most helath stores but
 make sure it is cold pressed
www.puritan.com

hit the dang send button instead of preview..grrrr

also some interesting things here
http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=gut-bacteria-can-trigger-rheumatoid-arthritis-in-mice

and here
http://www.baar.com/castoroilinstruct.shtml

   Hi! I must recommend to you a Primal- diet, if your stomach is up to eating raw meat(beef mostly). As I lift heavy weights, I used to have these joint pains in my shoulder area especially, but since i started to do the diet, all the pain is gone!

At least read an article about Primal-diet. There is some books written by Aajonus Vonderplaniz, and he is a guy who survived a death sentence with this diet. I have never felt more vital. Uncooked food mostly.
since I read hes studies of food, I came to conclusion, that cooking method was brought to human by some evil alien species to slowly kill us, because when you warm nearly any nutritions over 36 celcius, things in them turn unhealthy and even toxic to human body. Anyway he's life story was very interesting read!

I wish you all good!  :)
WW

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« Reply #11 on: March 02, 2012, 01:49:45 am »
   try raw beef, raw pineapple and raw fat( you get that also in a beef ). And avoid processed food as much as possible, especially anythng green and red. All the reds and greens will be easy to eat raw.
Any food when heated more than 36 degrees celsius will be spoiled( it kills nutritions and mutates many things in food)

Raw fat you can either ask from a farm somewhere or there is raw coconut fat and even in a raw egg theres the right kind of fat. And nuts.

If you are hurting badly, it should ease your pain in one or two weeks. Worthy to try and if you take it as a habit, you will be amazed how it effects your overall health  ;)

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« Reply #12 on: March 02, 2012, 02:27:44 am »
   try raw beef, raw pineapple and raw fat( you get that also in a beef ). And avoid processed food as much as possible, especially anythng green and red. All the reds and greens will be easy to eat raw.
Any food when heated more than 36 degrees celsius will be spoiled( it kills nutritions and mutates many things in food)

Raw fat you can either ask from a farm somewhere or there is raw coconut fat and even in a raw egg theres the right kind of fat. And nuts.

If you are hurting badly, it should ease your pain in one or two weeks. Worthy to try and if you take it as a habit, you will be amazed how it effects your overall health  ;)

Now if only I could find raw bread for My avocado, tomato and onion sammies.  [wink]

At least I eat sprouted grain bread.  [smile]
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« Reply #13 on: March 02, 2012, 02:45:15 am »
According to my source, even a homemade frencbread(white bread) is good. Avocado is super healthy and so is tomato  ;)

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« Reply #14 on: March 02, 2012, 03:06:03 am »
As a native of So. Cal., avocado is a MUST in My diet.  And I adore tomatoes.  I hear onion has healthy aspects, too.

Good to know that sourdough is cool.
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