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Title: Railroading and my family history
Post by: A51Watcher on May 25, 2012, 06:48:33 pm
Recently there has been interest in my interest in locomotives.

As I mentioned, I come from a long line of proud railroad men.


Here then are some photos of the men , locomotives, and the rails they 'shined the shellack' on from my family's line.  ;)


1864 -


(http://i1125.photobucket.com/albums/l595/A51Watcher/1864.jpg)



1884 -


(http://i1125.photobucket.com/albums/l595/A51Watcher/1884.jpg)

(http://i1125.photobucket.com/albums/l595/A51Watcher/1884b.jpg)



1894 -


(http://i1125.photobucket.com/albums/l595/A51Watcher/1894.jpg)



1898 -


(http://i1125.photobucket.com/albums/l595/A51Watcher/1898.jpg)



1902 -


(http://i1125.photobucket.com/albums/l595/A51Watcher/1902d.jpg)

(http://i1125.photobucket.com/albums/l595/A51Watcher/1902.jpg)

(http://i1125.photobucket.com/albums/l595/A51Watcher/1902b.jpg)



1905 -


(http://i1125.photobucket.com/albums/l595/A51Watcher/1905.jpg)



1916 -


(http://i1125.photobucket.com/albums/l595/A51Watcher/1916.jpg)



1930 -


(http://i1125.photobucket.com/albums/l595/A51Watcher/1930.jpg)



1941 -


(http://i1125.photobucket.com/albums/l595/A51Watcher/1941.jpg)



1944 -


(http://i1125.photobucket.com/albums/l595/A51Watcher/1944.jpg)




And in closing, railroad men always love to take the high road whenever possible.  ;D



(http://i1125.photobucket.com/albums/l595/A51Watcher/MarentViaductwestofMissoula.jpg)




Title: Re: Railroading and my family history
Post by: A51Watcher on May 25, 2012, 07:19:09 pm

-continued-




The best part of railroading is the spectacular view -  ;D


(http://i1125.photobucket.com/albums/l595/A51Watcher/TheView.jpg)






Which sometimes got really spectacular -


(http://i1125.photobucket.com/albums/l595/A51Watcher/ATS2.jpg)





24 June 1947 - Joliet, Illinois - 1:50 P.M. CST

Chicago Times (6/27)
 

Railroad engineer Charles Kastl saw a peculiar formation of nine flat, circular objects "going faster than any planes I ever saw” in a stretched out line formation at about 4,000 feet flying north to south.

"I could see no connecting link between them," Kastl reported, "but they acted as though the leading disc had a motor in it to power the others, because when it flipped, the others would, too.

When it would right itself, the others would right themselves."

When asked by newsmen if he had been drinking, he answered sternly, "I was on my way to work, and you know a railroad man never touches the stuff on or before duty hours."

His friends and neighbors all agreed that Kastl was not the sort of man given to telling tall stories.




Title: Re: Railroading and my family history
Post by: hobbit on May 25, 2012, 11:18:39 pm
I couldn't help but be concerned about who You are????, as We recently had an horrendous train crash involving a mikado that wrecked the place.
http://media.photobucket.com/image/train%20wreck/texaslady1960/train-wreck.jpg?o=2

We had already experienced a previous similer steam related incident when.. Paul on the road to finishing His book... sucked up mud into His tubes whilst stuck on a mud bank.
He opened His blowdown valve and ran out of steam .

You can't be too carefull with steam, when it transmutes from one appearance to another, it can seriously damage anywhere.
hobbit

 
Title: Re: Railroading and my family history
Post by: sky otter on May 26, 2012, 07:03:05 am
well dang..just found this A51..hiding in plain sight..always easy to overlook that phenom
anyway..
the description of the discs made me chuckle..that whoever or whatever they were they had a sense of humor and were playing with the train

i don't know if you are a dancing fan or not but the dwts show was won but the football guy dancin to this song...he did win but i'm still laughing about the co-winkie-dink of the song

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NUPK9z59yUc[/youtube]


what the hell can i say..my sense of humor doesn't have normal  edges..
hahahahahahahahah



oh yeah..how cool that you know so much of your history..and have those cool pics too
 8)

opps i almost forgot

what's with THIS new avatar..is it the headlight from some train...huh????
or the searchbeam of a space ship??
do tell
 ;)
Title: Re: Railroading and my family history
Post by: Shasta56 on May 26, 2012, 08:42:43 am
I can't claim to come from a railroad family, but my family did support the Union Pacific Railroad.  I come from a long line of coal miners, many of who, worked for the Union Pacific Coal Company.  My parents were both born and raised in UP Coal Company towns in Wyoming.  On a a sadder note, my great-grandfather and my great-uncle Pat were both killed by trains.  Great-grandpa Pat used to walk the rail lines from Bucklin to Bevier in Missouri.  He was hit by a train on his final walk.  Great-uncle Pat was in the 31 Transportation Corps in WWI.  He was hit by a train and killed in France.

Shasta
Title: Re: Railroading and my family history
Post by: undo11 on May 26, 2012, 08:52:18 am
my contribution to this wacky thread!
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ogugnws5qDc[/youtube]
Title: Re: Railroading and my family history
Post by: sky otter on May 26, 2012, 09:19:32 am
 ;D

Undo
i don't see how that has anything to do with trains..hahahahaha
but that only makes it better

 ;D
Title: Re: Railroading and my family history
Post by: Linda Brown on May 26, 2012, 10:01:09 am
Maybe shes just a little Twain coming down the Twacks.

Linda
Title: Re: Railroading and my family history
Post by: undo11 on May 26, 2012, 10:08:41 am
this one is for everybody at PRC! here comes the twain. hehe

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aP4puxOMsKg[/youtube]
Title: Re: Railroading and my family history
Post by: zorgon on May 26, 2012, 10:20:44 am
You can't be too carefull with steam, when it transmutes from one appearance to another, it can seriously damage anywhere.

Well since Mikado the Destroyer won't receive emails he cannot accept the registration :D

But as to the transmutation of steam, remember that the Law of Attraction states that you will attract that which you wish for.

Those that live their lives thinking about all the bad things that will happen, manifest those bad things in their lives and then wonder why they happen to them all the time...

My wife is a perfect example... you can feel the negative bubble around her.

If you stand on a street corner and put in your mind... "I want to see how many VW Beetles are out there" you will suddenly be aware of just how many VW's there are on the road any given day  And from then on for weeks you will see VW beetles everywhere.

Same too with Black Trains.... think about them and they shall find you...

However the same energy can be directed to banish them... this is an old "Illuminati Secret"

If I could teach but ONE thing to people it would be this
Title: Re: Railroading and my family history
Post by: Linda Brown on May 26, 2012, 10:22:50 am
A51.... in your " spectacular" train tracks photo.... could that possibly be...... the track just outside of Williams.... Headed East toward Flagstaff??? If not it bears a remarkable resemblance.....

Interesting area Williams.

Amen Zorgon  Linda
Title: Re: Railroading and my family history
Post by: hobbit on May 26, 2012, 10:40:50 am
Zorgon,
TRANSMUTATION.
Sort of a mix between trains and stations????

IMHO, if We could figure out the process of transmutaion of water to ice and to steam, and back to water , We could crack time travel.

Nothing moves except by re-location in time.
A steam train creates a vacuum that re-locate the piston attachd to the wheel , which enables the wheel to spin and thus transfer the re-location to the train.
Pressure/vacuum.
The Railroad of time.
Two opposing spirals going in phase conjugate relationship to each other, with one at a fraction different diameter of spiral.
A pressure of time, versus a vacuum of time.
Both acting under attraction.
The serpent biting it's own tail.

A black train on a low loader was brought into My shop today , which I purchased.....laughing to Myself.
A matchbox.
The hobbit did good, I paid 20 pounds, it's never been out of it's box
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Matchbox-Yesteryear-YS-16-1929-Scammell-Locomotive-/180614049968?pt=UK_ToysGames_DiecastVehicles_DiecastVehicles_JN&hash=item2a0d6fb0b0
hobbit
Title: Re: Railroading and my family history
Post by: zorgon on May 26, 2012, 10:43:41 am
The best part of railroading is the spectacular view -  ;D
Which sometimes got really spectacular


Steam Train - The Next Generation

(http://rookery.s3.amazonaws.com/2140500/2140517_9be8_625x1000.jpg)

 ::)

Nice history on the Trains A51  ;D

And then there is THIS old famous Cigar UFO

(http://a6.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash1/hs749.ash1/164003_180376561992287_100000598342747_555318_2472397_n.jpg)

Seems that one is a train in the mountains :D
Title: Re: Railroading and my family history
Post by: zorgon on May 26, 2012, 10:47:32 am
We could crack time travel.

Heck we already have :D  I have a paper on it using Stargates from the Air Force Research Lab :P

And the Army is using Looking Glass tech to see where bullets are GOING to come from.

But time travel in the wrong hands will be a very bad thing. Already the timelines are all messed up and we are jumping them daily
Title: Re: Railroading and my family history
Post by: undo11 on May 26, 2012, 10:57:23 am
Heck we already have :D  I have a paper on it using Stargates from the Air Force Research Lab :P

And the Army is using Looking Glass tech to see where bullets are GOING to come from.

But time travel in the wrong hands will be a very bad thing. Already the timelines are all messed up and we are jumping them daily

SOOO, the big question is: WAS THE STARGATE PROGRAM a remote viewing program or a star gate program?  don't say both or i'll post another video lol
Title: Re: Railroading and my family history
Post by: Linda Brown on May 26, 2012, 11:17:39 am
Ah then Zorgon.... our worlds are meeting!!!!

I had an interesting dream last night and I want to share it with you because I don't know where it is going.... but whereever it is.... it will be.... informative.

I dreamt of a Rose Garden... I have mentioned this place before many times and some of you will remember that I keep going back to that place to snoop around and listen in more in the conversation. There is a group centered casually in the garden... A silver haired lady that reminds me of my Great Grandmother.... a little boy hiding in the bushes because he wants to spy on whats going on in the adult world.... a couple talking about her taking the truck to town and her escort ( in a military uniform) being very upset with her because he doesn't think its appropriate.... but its war time and she mentions that if she can give up nylons and take to drawing lines up the backs of her legs then she can drive a stupid truck.

Another group of senior aviation officers are talking about how someone came in .... filled with holes....I don't remember the phrase they used... I would have to look up my old messages because I had never heard it then and now can't remember it!

Anyway last night I heard a little more of the conversations and that hasn't happened in YEARS....
The silver haired lady is sitting with a silver tea set beside her and she has offered a gentleman a cup. His name he says is Lionell. He is very pleased to be there. She is laughing about her invitation to him being misplaced but she is pleased that he got it anyway. She explained that the lady arguing with her boyfriend about the truck has taken over her correspondence.... and other things had gotten mistranslated... She named her.... the first time I have known the ladies name...... Josephine she says...." but of course in this modern age... she prefers the name JO."

The new guest has a packet of information for the silver haired lady in the pearls.... but he has simply put it aside in another chair.... to be discussed later....
And the girl talking about the truck turns and suddenly I recognize that it is Josephine Beale..... My mother.

And a man named Lionel, Now THATS funny considering that we have been talking all about trains recently.

So who amongst us..... is late to the tea party????? with more information????? and that my Mother had something to do with?????? 

I just love this!!!!!!
Hobbit you remember my dream of the rosegarden I hope..... the heavy set cook wasn't there this time. I looked for her.

"Greasing in"...... thats the expression that the airmen used..... someone had come " greasing in" filled with smoke and holes ..... but landed safely. I do not seem to be able to get past that particular conversation...other than " Everything will be all right Snuffy... or Stuffy or some odd name like that. But that conversation is part of something else.... connected but not connected to the rosegarden. I see a lady saying that and patting his lapel as if to smooth it and his emotions.

Thats why I called my kennel  " Rosegate".... because of my vision of the gate into that rosegarden.  Funny Hujh? 

So who is Lionell?
Hobbit????? Definitely ENGLISH. I throw this to you!!!

Linda
Title: Re: Railroading and my family history
Post by: undo11 on May 26, 2012, 11:27:02 am
linda

taking all the occult symbols into the picture just muddles it up. 
clear all that out, and what i get out of it is that perhaps you overheard or were close enough to hear a conversation when you were young and it's just coming back to you now.  sometimes we block traumatic stuff out. also things that just didn't seem important as a kid, are still in your mind.  perhaps if you dwell on your past, looking for answers long enough, random junk in your current life may elucidate older stuff you didn't think was important then. 

i would say keep asking yourself questions and eventually enough of it will come to light to satisfy what you apparently feel compelled to find out.
Title: Re: Railroading and my family history
Post by: hobbit on May 26, 2012, 11:37:11 am
Operation mistletoe...later mandrake.
Bond at glastonbury.
Crowley himself.
http://www.forteantimes.com/features/articles/4435/the_magical_battle_of_britain.html
hobbit
Title: Re: Railroading and my family history
Post by: hobbit on May 26, 2012, 11:42:51 am
1939,
Dion Fortune.
Fraternity of the inner light.
Glastonbury.
http://books.google.co.uk/books?id=-wIeuv9C7HsC&pg=PA18&lpg=PA18&dq=the+fraternity+of+the+inner+light+1939&source=bl&ots=MeYou8H4k8&sig=PuQnE1_HwMi2HYp7Diy894p_jjw&hl=en&sa=X&ei=iyPBT7viKaOZ0QX5tajWCg&ved=0CEsQ6AEwAw#v=onepage&q=the%20fraternity%20of%20the%20inner%20light%201939&f=false
hobbit
Title: Re: Railroading and my family history
Post by: Linda Brown on May 26, 2012, 11:49:36 am
I understand that much of what you are saying Beth is entirely right. Our mind is a wonderful thing... it grabs and stores stuff for lessons much later. I know that.... but the strange thing about this for me is that I have never been to England and yet I know this Rose garden by sight.... have been looking for it for years.... the Hallway of the manor house has black and white marble floor... I see that sometimes when this really big housekeeper opens the french doors to the balcony patio leading to the rose garden. The image is always the same and for years I keep trying to notice something more.  Slowly things reveal themselves but this has been an ongoing process. I have proof of that of course in my earlier messages.... on the earlier forums/ Thats an idea.... I should go back and put them all in one place. Maybe I am overlooking something.

Thats the overwhelming sensation I get when I have this " dream"..... that there is something there I am missing somehow. and its RIGHT there but somehow I can't see it. REALLY frustrating!!!!

I know this silver haired lady from another vision I have had since I was a kid..... There is a lake .....in the foreground and suddenly from the left hand side there appears a white pony pulling a cart.... driven by this silver haired lady.... I know how she is dressed exactly... even the style of cart  and color ( black with a narrow purple pinstripe down the shaft..) the pony is small and very silver/white.

I have thought that this person might be me in my older age.... that I have always loved ponies and have said that if I couldn't ride I would buy a pony and drive it..... so maybe I am seeing myself in the future..... but the odd thing is that I would never buy a grey coated pony.... too much work keeping them... not my favorite color horsehide anyway..... so I doubt its me.....

If it is.... then I worry less about my future because she and that pony are having a rousing good trot.... lake or pond in front..... pinetrees and hardwoods on a slight hill behind..... never changes.

But this time in the Rosegarden.... My Mother was there. I had never recognized her before, just listened to the conversation and admired her because she is certainly giving the uniformed officer some grief. Yah Mom!!!!!! Linda
Title: Re: Railroading and my family history
Post by: undo11 on May 26, 2012, 12:21:22 pm
linda

well i dunno, never had the kind of thing you're talking about, happen before.   i've had unique dreams, but never thought of them as past, present or future literally, but more of a metaphor of the past, present or future.

i wish you could watch videos.  in the shania twain video, she is being chased by a giant robot, who chases her to a small passageway where he can't fit.  when she gets in there, all that's there is herself behind a glass wall. she throws a small round object at the glass, it shatters and the her that was on the other side of the glass, walks out to see she's in futuristic world with flying cars zooming by.  was a sort of alice in wonderland thing.  what i got out of it was, no matter what others may do in an effort to do evil against you as a person, god will always turn it to good.  doesn't matter what it is. no matter how devestating it may be now or confusing, etc, it will always be turned to good.
Title: Re: Railroading and my family history
Post by: Linda Brown on May 26, 2012, 12:52:29 pm
We are all different Undo and thats why we see and experience things so wildly differently. And that is the strength that we have when we are working together.
I am sorry that I couldn't see that Twain video. Perhaps someday..  Linda
Title: Re: Railroading and my family history
Post by: Linda Brown on May 26, 2012, 01:19:37 pm
"what i got out of it was, no matter what others may do in an effort to do evil against you as a person, god will always turn it to good.  doesn't matter what it is. no matter how devestating it may be now or confusing, etc, it will always be turned to good.

Ultimately...... I absolutely agree with you.

What was the line from a current movie ( paraphrased here!)...." Things will turn out OK in the end..... if things are not OK yet..... its not the end....".

I can accept that.   Linda
Title: Re: Railroading and my family history
Post by: undo11 on May 26, 2012, 01:57:28 pm
"what i got out of it was, no matter what others may do in an effort to do evil against you as a person, god will always turn it to good.  doesn't matter what it is. no matter how devestating it may be now or confusing, etc, it will always be turned to good.

Ultimately...... I absolutely agree with you.

What was the line from a current movie ( paraphrased here!)...." Things will turn out OK in the end..... if things are not OK yet..... its not the end....".

I can accept that.   Linda

the person she was "gonna get real good" was herself.  in effect, god took various factors that weren't working for good, and ultimately, made them work for good, anyway.   i learned a long time ago, i'm my own worst enemy and my own best friend.  this is not healthy lol  so been trying to focus on the "my own best friend" part. kinda slow going but at least my motorcycle is fast. lol
Title: Re: Railroading and my family history
Post by: Littleenki on May 26, 2012, 03:34:29 pm
We are all different Undo and thats why we see and experience things so wildly differently. And that is the strength that we have when we are working together.
I am sorry that I couldn't see that Twain video. Perhaps someday..  Linda
Just like these guys...[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_MVonyVSQoM[/youtube]
Le;)
Title: Re: Railroading and my family history
Post by: Linda Brown on May 26, 2012, 04:19:40 pm
Sorta off topic but still on machines and going fast.... What do you ride Undo?  Linda
Title: Re: Railroading and my family history
Post by: undo11 on May 26, 2012, 04:45:41 pm
Sorta off topic but still on machines and going fast.... What do you ride Undo?  Linda

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Ws3gP6SOxQ[/youtube]

well i don't have one, yet, as they want way too much in-game money for them.  if you mean real life, i can't ride a motorcycle lol.  heck i get tired just shopping for 20 minutes.

let me see if i can show you what i ride.  uno momento.
Title: Re: Railroading and my family history
Post by: undo11 on May 26, 2012, 05:01:56 pm
here ya go, click to see larger versions. see attached
Title: Re: Railroading and my family history
Post by: Linda Brown on May 26, 2012, 05:27:27 pm
Fantastic WONDERFUL STUFF. You should be a carousel designer. Not kidding. Wonderful! I want All the horses!!!!!

I know nothing at all about what you do Undo but I sure admire your work.

There is a Kawasaki Voyager in our shop that belongs to me....Doubt that I will be riding it any great distance though and going for a short ride around here hardly seems worth it. When I take off on one of my jaunts I have been known to travel over 8000 miles. Dont think there would be much left of me with that kind of milage on a bike... but I dunno.... maybe..

Hey... we did get way off topic. Signing off here so that it can regain its course. Meet me in LB Questions and answers Ok?

Linda

Title: Re: Railroading and my family history
Post by: A51Watcher on May 26, 2012, 06:51:18 pm
I can't claim to come from a railroad family, but my family did support the Union Pacific Railroad.  I come from a long line of coal miners, many of who, worked for the Union Pacific Coal Company.  My parents were both born and raised in UP Coal Company towns in Wyoming.  On a a sadder note, my great-grandfather and my great-uncle Pat were both killed by trains.  Great-grandpa Pat used to walk the rail lines from Bucklin to Bevier in Missouri.  He was hit by a train on his final walk.  Great-uncle Pat was in the 31 Transportation Corps in WWI.  He was hit by a train and killed in France.

Shasta

Very interesting Shasta!

As we know, there would be no railroading without coal.

Sad to hear about your gg and gu.


Title: Re: Railroading and my family history
Post by: undo11 on May 26, 2012, 06:53:12 pm
i didn't design the mounts.  those are from a game called world of warcraft.  it's a fantasy based mmorpg (massively multiplayer role playing game).  the game's epic history is so indepth it would take a month just to explain it, so here's a brief overview, and i do mean brief.  it started out as a small 2d game of humans vs. orcs.  and eventually blossomed into a 3d game with even more races, like elves, gnomes (reminiscent of hobbits), worgens (werewolf looking), dwarves, and then into a 3d mmorpg, with humans, orcs, night elves, blood elves, trolls, dwarves, worgens, gnomes, tauren (cross between a large human and a bull or cow), undeads, draenei (a cross between a human, a dragon and a goat), goblins, and soon, panda people (yes, a cross between a human and a panda).   

they are separated into  2 factions: the horde vs. the alliance.  the horde are the orcs, tauren, undeads, goblins, blood elves and trolls.  the alliance are humans, night elves, gnomes, dwarves, worgens and draenei.  the panda people, called pandaren, can be either faction.

mostly you go around doing solo quests, teaming up in battlegrounds where you fight the other faction, and beating epic monsters in dungeon groups or raid groups.  you can also collect in-game pets, mounts (which you saw some of mine), and various other things of interest.  idea is to level to maximum level and get the most advanced armor and weapons the game has to offer, while also leveling up 2-3 professions.  there are many professions to train in. 

the classes available to play are: warrior, paladin, mage, druid, hunter, warlock, death knight, rogue, priest, shaman, and when the panda expansion arrives, also monk (think karate expert)

that's it.  believe me, that's the condensed version.  lol
Title: Re: Railroading and my family history
Post by: A51Watcher on May 26, 2012, 07:17:05 pm
I couldn't help but be concerned about who You are????,

And why is that?

Did I just suddenly appear on this forum?

Is anyone with an avatar that looks even remotely like train tracks now a suspect here?

I find all this childish, silly and rude. And trying to use my family history as an icon for evil rates the same description.


My previous avatar which had you and others fearing the end of the world was at hand and the sky is falling -

(http://i1125.photobucket.com/albums/l595/A51Watcher/Avatar3.jpg)


...is just a graphic from a 50's UFO sighting reporting form.


Y'all need to get a grip.





Title: Re: Railroading and my family history
Post by: A51Watcher on May 26, 2012, 07:33:37 pm
And lest anyone become concerned and alarmed with my current avatar -


(http://i1125.photobucket.com/albums/l595/A51Watcher/avatar4.jpg)



it comes from -

" It's The Fear Of The Dark".




...maybe that has some true meaning for you.


Title: Re: Railroading and my family history
Post by: Linda Brown on May 26, 2012, 08:13:41 pm
Quote
A51...

We may be being silly and rude in your eyes and yet you have no idea of why we both responded the way that we did. That means that you are ignorant.  And I would venture to say that you have no idea why you suddenly wanted to put a mans figure on a train track..... Do you?.... if you DID then we are looking at other agendas here entirely, aren't we?

Did you realize that it was nearly identical to an photo that Mikado used as his Avatar for a while.... a man with his back to the camera with diminishing track in front of him? If you knew that..... then what does THAT mean. If you didn't then the ignorance situation maintains.

No Linda I was not aware of your mikado boogey man until I was going through my usual daily thread cleaning chores around here.

I was also a bit busy at that moment removing personal attack posts in threads around here.


So what about other members around here unaware of your boogey man?


Are they to be accused if they make the mistake of unknowingly posting something you may happen to interpret as related and evil?

Are we all to walk on eggshells around here and have to be sure to check all your threads before posting anything?

Oh that sounds like a plan. Attention all members - be sure to read ALL of Linda's threads and dont' skip anything lest you become a target.

Now if someone were to come into one of your threads and making overt insinuations directly related to your thread, you might have a case.

But to go around this entire forum into threads totally unrelated to you and begin with the accusations is again - childish silly and rude.


As to why and when I decided to change my avatar had nothing to do with you. It was done long before you even noticed it. Your comment "oh look A51 has just added train tracks to his avatar"  is incorrect. Just because you noticed it that night you proclaim it related. Mere 'ignorance' on your part.


You have this penchant to think everything here is related to you.

Any chance people around here just might have something to say or post that does not have you in mind at all?


eta: the point I am trying to make is you are projecting your fears way too far and innocent bystanders may take offense to these accusations.

 

 
Title: Re: Railroading and my family history
Post by: A51Watcher on May 26, 2012, 08:32:47 pm

Oh great.

I posted your message as mine.  ::)

Must have hit modify instead of quote.

Title: Re: Railroading and my family history
Post by: Linda Brown on May 26, 2012, 08:43:46 pm
Its Ok A51. I got your message clearly enough.
You say you didn't know anything about mikado.
Thats fine. I accept that.

Linda
Title: Re: Railroading and my family history
Post by: A51Watcher on May 26, 2012, 09:02:29 pm

Yes and I tend to skim through your threads pretty quickly during daily chores because I have never seen evidence of discord or personal attacks and figure if there were you would handle it as the moderator of your area.


Title: Re: Railroading and my family history
Post by: Linda Brown on May 26, 2012, 09:28:28 pm
Actually A51.... I don't think that I am a moderator " of my area" as you put it..... am I? ( I have looked.... sorry.... it does call me a moderator) I didn't think that I had the kind of power that you guys have ( and I don't want it either!!!) so what do you mean by your statement here.

Yes and I tend to skim through your threads pretty quickly during daily chores because I have never seen evidence of discord or personal attacks and figure if there were you would handle it as the moderator of your area.

I have never had to "handle" anything in that area....so I guess I missed that part....

I know that you guys are busy and this is an enormous and constantly growing Forum ( yea!!!)

So if it looked like I jumped on you for the similarity of avatars..... and the sudden ( to me) mention of trains.... I am really sorry....

But I know how the Mikado Effect works. I am familiar with its technology and it is not a PERSON per se but a PROGRAM... and once established it turns one forum member against the other. I thought that I was seeing that beginning to happen here. Maybe I over reacted and for that I am sorry. You yourself said that you were dealing with a problem at the time..... I submit that the problem was just the beginning of something that might have gotten much worse if you hadn't stepped in as quickly as you did. I SO appreciate that.

 I am hopefully not being overly sensitive but it sorta feels like you are saying " Stay out of the other threads that don't concern you." But that is a puzzle to me because I would not bother to respond to anything that was not at least interesting to me.

Am I being restricted here? Just so I know.

 Maybe its a good thing because I am kind of  over sensitive to all of this and I think that I have already explained as much as I possibly can in that long interaction with Undo and others...... I tried to explain there that you are not up against a single man....the man I refer to as Mikado is not a boogie man.... he is the programs victim.

If its for the better health of this forum I promise. I will stay out of other threads.... anybody needs to talk with me.... they know where they can find me....<g>  Linda
 
Title: Re: Railroading and my family history
Post by: A51Watcher on May 26, 2012, 09:47:51 pm
Actually A51.... I don't think that I am a moderator " of my area" as you put it..... am I? I didn't think that I had the kind of power that you guys have ( and I don't want it either!!!) so what do you mean by your statement here.

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Yes and I tend to skim through your threads pretty quickly during daily chores because I have never seen evidence of discord or personal attacks and figure if there were you would handle it as the moderator of your area.

What I meant is you would either verbally admonish the offender or if need be PM a Mod to remove offending posts.

You have absolute power over what goes on in your threads.


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I am hopefully not being overly sensitive but it sorta feels like you are saying " Stay out of the other threads that don't concern you." But that is a puzzle to me because I would not bother to respond to anything that was not at least interesting to me.

Am I being restricted here? Just so I know.

Not at all and yes you are being overly sensitive.

In a new member thread where I was joking with Pimander about his 'Well I never' comment I find myself suddenly accused of being mikado.

Next thing undo is being accused of being the mikado queen.

undo was also unaware of your mikado fears and needed to have it explained.

That is what I mean about projecting your fears too far.



If mikado or anyone else shows up here and directly menaces YOU -anywhere- on this forum my actions will be swift and sure.


You are of course free to roam here as all are, but noticing imagined coincedences in areas unrelated to you and then begin accusing members there of being mikado or his queen is taking it too far.

And presuming mikado can influence my actions is very naive.

Shall we try an experiment to prove it?

 
Title: Re: Railroading and my family history
Post by: Linda Brown on May 26, 2012, 10:06:57 pm
Lets take this carefully one step at a time because I think that you are helping me prove that there is a THIRD entity at work her. Its stock and fingerprint is distrust..... and misinformation....

You said

"In a new member thread where I was joking with Pimander about his 'Well I never' comment I find myself suddenly accused of being mikado.

I DID NOT DO THAT, YET YOU BLAME ME?Next thing undo is being accused of being the mikado queen.
I DID NOT DO THAT EITHER. THAT WAS UNDOS OWN MISINTERPRETATION OF SOMETHING HOBBIT SAID AND HE HAS ALREADY EXPLAINED THAT HE DID NOT MEAN IT THE WAY SHE TOOK IT.

undo was also unaware of your mikado fears and needed to have it explained. I have explained it in detail to her. If she does not want to take my warnings seriously then that is entirely her choice. But at least she has been made aware.

That is what I mean about projecting your fears too far.

THESE ARE NOT MY FEARS BEING PROJECTED HERE this is my knowledge of what this technology is capable of... its hard and fast science.... not mystical attacks. And there is enough out there now in ( granted.... difficult to find sources.... but it is out there) I said all I needed to say to Undo. Those interested can read that exchange..

 Sorry for the all caps but I wanted to make my point because this is important.

Linda
Title: Re: Railroading and my family history
Post by: A51Watcher on May 26, 2012, 10:41:38 pm
Lets take this carefully one step at a time because I think that you are helping me prove that there is a THIRD entity at work her. Its stock and fingerprint is distrust..... and misinformation....

You said

"In a new member thread where I was joking with Pimander about his 'Well I never' comment I find myself suddenly accused of being mikado.

I DID NOT DO THAT, YET YOU BLAME ME?Next thing undo is being accused of being the mikado queen.
I DID NOT DO THAT EITHER. THAT WAS UNDOS OWN MISINTERPRETATION OF SOMETHING HOBBIT SAID AND HE HAS ALREADY EXPLAINED THAT HE DID NOT MEAN IT THE WAY SHE TOOK IT.

I said I found myself being accused. By whom? hobbit.

But then it was you who chimed in with support -

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hobbit -

Say sowry, cos I don't have a clue how to remove any posts, as I see You now know who did though....why?
Maybe this A51watcher has a liking for removing posts???
Here's a little steam train on the move from pennsylvania a mikado.
it's all black.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ptQ2Q80CTrs
hobbit


Linda -
I can't see your Utube Hobbit but I can guess.

I tip my hat.... or if I were driving a carriage I would touch my driving whip to the brim. Well done sir.
Steam trains have a hard time when there is no steam.

Linda


So actually you are an accomplice to this act, "touch my driving whip to the brim. Well done sir" just as in the previous thread where you were yelling at hobbit to 'close this door' intimating he was talking to the dreaded mikado himself.

Here you are congratulating him for sending me or undo a mikado video. Sure in your belief that even though "I can't see your Utube Hobbit but I can guess."


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undo was also unaware of your mikado fears and needed to have it explained. I have explained it in detail to her. If she does not want to take my warnings seriously then that is entirely her choice. But at least she has been made aware.

A warning is much different than an accusation. undo clearly felt accused, and I had to explain it to her when I discovered what you and hobbit were up to. Your explanation came much later.


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That is what I mean about projecting your fears too far.

THESE ARE NOT MY FEARS BEING PROJECTED HERE this is my knowledge of what this technology is capable of... its hard and fast science.... not mystical attacks. And there is enough out there now in ( granted.... difficult to find sources.... but it is out there) I said all I needed to say to Undo. Those interested can read that exchange..

That may or may not be fact. But supposing it is, do you have any -proof- it is occuring here?

I see only suspicions and speculations.

And whether this a real fear or not, is beside the point.

Even if it is a real fear, you are projecting it way too far into areas and people not interacting with you at all.



I can also guarantee you that your 'mikado program' is in for a -nasty surprise- if it attempts to influence any of my actions, dreams, or thoughts.

In fact I openly challenge ANY 'mikado program', entity or spirit, or channelers or remote viewers or -any- nefarious forces of any kind to give it their best shot in any area of my life.


I will get back to ya with any attempts.



Title: Re: Railroading and my family history
Post by: Linda Brown on May 26, 2012, 10:46:49 pm
second part of your message A51

 mikado or anyone else shows up here and directly menaces YOU -anywhere- on this forum my actions will be swift and sure.  You will not know that it is him. That's NOT the way that this thing works.

You are of course free to roam here as all are, but noticing imagined coincidences in areas unrelated to you and then begin accusing members there of being mikado or his queen is taking it too far.

AND AGAIN I SAY.... I NEVER DID THAT. WHAT YOU ARE SEEING HERE IS A MIKADO EFFECT FINGERPRINT. SHOW ME WHERE I ACCUSED ANY MEMBERS OF BEING MIKADO OR HIS QUEEN. SHOW ME AREA 51.

And presuming mikado can influence my actions is very naive.  Whatever you say.Shall we try an experiment to prove it.

The Mikado Effect has already affected you. Look at what you have written here. If I didn't know what was going on ( and most don't) this whole thing could have spiraled into a major dust- up. That's what was happening and what you were having to deal with. I just wish that you could see it for what it actually was. I think that Undo has seen her power against this program and I hope that you realize yours too.......
The fact that you think that you can set up an experiment when you have already been used in one.... is sort of laughable to me but I will listen to anything that you have in mind.

Linda



Title: Re: Railroading and my family history
Post by: A51Watcher on May 26, 2012, 10:59:42 pm


It looks like our messages are passing in the ether again. i will wait and let us catch up.

I will just submit it is your 'perception' that my actions have already been manipulated.

I however perceive no change. Since I am more familiar with the pattern of my actions than you, I submit my perception is better supported.

 
Title: Re: Railroading and my family history
Post by: Linda Brown on May 26, 2012, 11:03:25 pm
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Dear A51


You said

So actually you are an accomplice to this act, "touch my driving whip to the brim. Well done sir" just as in the previous thread where you were yelling at hobbit to 'close this door' intimating he was talking to the dreaded mikado himself.  First of all .....

 your interpretation right here is EXACTLY what I meant by misinformation and distrust transference. Was this actually you? You think? really?
Hobbit and I both know that is not what was actually happening but look at the slant that you have just put on it

Just a matter of differing perceptions here Linda. My perception is I was having fun with a friend in a innocuous little welcome thread and suddenly I am jumped by hobbit 'wondering' if I 'watch' mikado trains.

I had no idea what you or him were going on about, and when I did find out, I felt it to be silly and very rude at the same time. My hope here is that this type of thing will not happen to other unwitting members.

hobbit's very first post in this thread attempts to explain why he was 'concerned' about who I might be, which is what I replied to and you are now* replying to.   


And while explaining yours and his actions and fears it might, it does not justify or excuse them.


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Here you are congratulating him for sending me or undo a mikado video. Sure in your belief that even though "I can't see your Utube Hobbit but I can guess.". Again, completely off the mark from what was actually meant here.... your perceptions have been seriously tweaked toward the negative.

I can see no positive merit in 'wondering' if someone is mikado to their face when they have no idea what it even means.

All of this could have been avoided if hobbit had not 'opened the door'.


I would hope he will not be sending any more cryptic messages and web pages and videos of mikado's to any other members who are unfamiliar with your fears and have never intimated such knowledge.
 


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And this is the most revealing of all of your statements A51" A warning is much different than an accusation. undo clearly felt accused, and I had to explain it to her when I discovered what you and hobbit were up to. Your explanation came much later.  what we were "UP to?" Isn't that kind and generous and helpful of you. Stir the pot there while you were at it..... was that REALLY your idea or did you just " FEEL" like taking that stance?

Yes. At first neither undo or myself had any idea what you 2 were going on about, and 'up to' is the correct phrase when someone is sending you cryptic messages containing mikado web pages and you have no idea what they are talking about.

All you can do is wonder what they are 'up to'.


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That may or may not be fact. But supposing it is, do you have any -proof- it is occuring here? I can see it happening in front of my eyes. I know its fingerprints.

Even if it is a real fear, you are projecting it way too far into areas and people not interacting with you at all.

What are you really saying here A51.... ship out.... this is none of your business here.... EVEN if it is really happening???? How convenient for you! Sorry but YES! That kind of statement should make anyone suspicious.

Nope. Never said anything about shipping out and did not intimate it.

I said I have seen no proof here. 

I never said anything is not your business. I said people not interacting with you. As in - have not said boo to you or hobbit, and are off in a faraway land having a few jokes. Suddenly they are suspects and need to be interrogated?

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can also guarantee you that your 'mikado program' is in for a -nasty surprise- if it attempts to influence any of my actions, dreams, or thoughts.
In fact I openly challenge ANY 'mikado program', entity or spirit, or channelers or remote viewers or -any- nefarious forces of any kind to give it their best shot in any area of my life.
 

Well, thats nice to know..  The only cure for this that I truly believe in is an excercise in positive attitudes and a certain self control.  Linda

I can not tell others how to achieve this. All I know is that any who have tried in the past, have not only failed, they have suffered a nasty blowback effect for their efforts.

 
Title: Re: Railroading and my family history
Post by: Linda Brown on May 26, 2012, 11:15:19 pm
"[color=yellow]I will just submit it is your 'perception' that my actions have already been manipulated[/color[

/color]Absolutely..... but..... you won over the Effect A51 because you followed through and damped down the firestorm that was brewing between Undo and Hobbit. I did not even read some of those exchanged messages because you had swept in and made things calm. I was ENORMOUSLY relieved to see that happen but I wasn't really sure who was doing it.

So you may be right. Maybe you were not as affected as I thought that you were being. And I know that you were making fun of my comments about not letting the " dark " take over..... but meanwhile you took the emergency steps that were needed to blunt the Effect.

You don't have to believe me if you want to. That's fine. I know enough about the technology of this thing to know that once the " wave " of this thing passes its target.... it takes awhile to build up again and in that time all of you have the opportunity to build stronger understandings with each other so when and if it ever hits again you will withstand it again.

There are instances when very valuable Forums have not been able to withstand this. They never knew what it was. And they never knew that the simplest way to blunt it.... is when you feel things starting to go sideways..... just look at your words carefully and ask yourself. Do I really want to say that.... would that statement further a negative thread? And then simply replace it with something more understanding and positive. That's the light that I was talking about. Nothing more than that.

Talking stick is yours now A51.   Linda]
Title: Re: Railroading and my family history
Post by: Amaterasu on May 26, 2012, 11:28:16 pm
Well...  I missed My cue...  I'm just popping in to mention that for 10 years of M'life, My only mode of transportation was a motorcycle.

Honda 160
Honda 400/4
Yamaha SR500 (2 of 'em - crashed the first and broke My pelvis.  Was still on a walker when Me and a friend went and bought the second one.  He test-rode it for Me.)

Ok.  Sorry I missed the cue.
Title: Re: Railroading and my family history
Post by: A51Watcher on May 26, 2012, 11:46:26 pm


dammit did it again, hit modify instead of quote. sorry.

it's been a long week and this is my friday night.

Title: Re: Railroading and my family history
Post by: Amaterasu on May 26, 2012, 11:57:36 pm

dammit did it again, hit modify instead of quote. sorry.

it's been a long week and this is my friday night.

[hugs]

Get some rest.  We'll wait for You.  [smile]
Title: Re: Railroading and my family history
Post by: Linda Brown on May 26, 2012, 11:59:53 pm
I'm done too.  Goodnight everybody.....  Linda
Title: Re: Railroading and my family history
Post by: undo11 on May 27, 2012, 12:09:38 am
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. it takes awhile to build up again and in that time all of you have the opportunity to build stronger understandings with each other so when and if it ever hits again you will withstand it again.

if it pays any attention to me, i'll have it derailed soon enough by first: 1) drawing its attention to me so it can't hurt innocent bystanders 2) making it chase me around so that it isn't hurting anyone else, and   3) defusing it once it has expended so much of its stupid energy trying to do evil, that it eventually has no recourse but to give up the chase.

  might take a couple days but as i said before, even if something is meant for evil, it will inevitably be used for good.  that part i can't control as far as timing or who it may be that it is meant to do good for, but i can keep the evil really busy while the issue is being rearranged to make it turn out for good just the same. 

 i learned this back when it became apparent that some moments in time are so important, so pivotal, that you're guaranteed to find bad intent lurking around those  moments, just waiting for the opportunity to screw it all up.   enter the walking disaster area (<--that's me), which is like bait, they can't seem to refuse.   don't ask me why that is.  i just know it works.

in this case, i think the protected target was amaterasu.  i didn't know that beforehand, but now i do.   i never know who the intended target is till after the event has passed because i've just been injected into the situation to be the target dummy.  i am the weak link in the chain, supposedly.  i guess. who knows.  and if there's intent to attack, they always start with the weakest link.  kinda predictable.
Title: Re: Railroading and my family history
Post by: A51Watcher on May 27, 2012, 12:25:40 am

I know that you guys are busy and this is an enormous and constantly growing Forum ( yea!!!)

So if it looked like I jumped on you for the similarity of avatars..... and the sudden ( to me) mention of trains.... I am really sorry....

Yes it did. Thank you. Apology accepted and hatchet buried.

(I better have hit the right button this time! grrrr lol)


Title: Re: Railroading and my family history
Post by: undo11 on May 27, 2012, 12:44:34 am
Yes it did. Thank you. Apology accepted and hatchet buried.

(I better have hit the right button this time! grrrr lol)

and YOU, you took some of the attack off me, which was probably not such a good idea.  hindsight is 20/20. lol  the more helpless i look, the more i draw the bad guys. they love it when you're down so they can tap dance in your guts.  but my guts have been tap danced on so many times,  they are like calloused or something.
Title: Re: Railroading and my family history
Post by: A51Watcher on May 27, 2012, 01:06:58 am


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2) making it chase me around...


That's gotta be the easy part. Geez I would happily chase ya around if ya wasn't married!   ;)  ;D


 
Title: Re: Railroading and my family history
Post by: undo11 on May 27, 2012, 01:37:24 am


That's gotta be the easy part. Geez I would happily chase ya around if ya wasn't married!   ;)  ;D


 

did i mention that pic was before the train wreck i call chemotherapy slapped me upside with the ugly stick?  i just keep using it as my avatar because the real me is an eyesore :D
Title: Re: Railroading and my family history
Post by: A51Watcher on May 27, 2012, 01:40:26 am
did i mention that pic was before the train wreck i call chemotherapy slapped me upside with the ugly stick?  i just keep using it as my avatar because the real me is an eyesore :D

That's ok cause I need glasses anyways so it's all good!  ;D

 
Title: Re: Railroading and my family history
Post by: A51Watcher on May 27, 2012, 01:42:59 am
[hugs]

Get some rest.  We'll wait for You.  [smile]

Thanks kiddo will do. Obviously I need it. Here I am flirting with a married woman.  ::)

nite all  :D

 
Title: Re: Railroading and my family history
Post by: undo11 on May 27, 2012, 01:46:56 am
That's ok cause I need glasses anyways so it's all good!  ;D

no, even lack of glasses wouldn't help in this case. lol

p.s. edit:  and this turns out to be a good thing.  it's weird but that's how it works.  i like it when people listen to me because they think what i have to say is more interesting than my physical appearance (lol whew, took a huge handicap for that to work out).  it's a blessing that was wrapped in an exceedingly cruel package.  good from evil.  good will always triumph because evil is not dumb, but rather so intent on pleasing itself that it can't see past the next jolly.
Title: Re: Railroading and my family history
Post by: zorgon on May 27, 2012, 03:49:54 am
dammit did it again, hit modify instead of quote. sorry.
it's been a long week and this is my friday night.

When that happens you can hit the back button and copy the original post :D happens to me a lot :P

So  all this fuss about trains I felt the NEED to add this one :P

(http://www.thelivingmoon.com/Vault/train_001.png)

[youtube]DnaUvPoiTfQ[/youtube]

There's a Spanish train that runs between
Guadalquivir and old Saville,
And at dead of night the whistle blows,
and people hear she's running still...

And then they hush their children back to sleep,
Lock the doors, upstairs they creep,
For it is said that the souls of the dead
Fill that train ten thousand deep!!

Well a railwayman lay dying with his people by his side,
His family were crying, knelt in prayer before he died,
But above his bed just a-waiting for the dead,
Was the Devil with a twinkle in his eye,
"Well God's not around and look what I've found,
this one's mine!!"

Just then the Lord himself appeared in a blinding flash of light,
And shouted at the Devil, "Get thee hence to endless night!!"
But the Devil just grinned and said "I may have sinned,
But there's no need to push me around,
I got him first so you can do your worst,
He's going underground!!"

"But I think I'll give you one more chance"
said the Devil with a smile,
"So throw away that stupid lance,
It's really not your style",
"Joker is the name, Poker is the game,
we'll play right here on this bed,
And then we'll bet for the biggest stakes yet,
the souls of the dead!!"

And I said "Look out, Lord, He's going to win,
The sun is down and the night is riding in,
That train is dead on time, many souls are on the line,
Oh Lord, He's going to win!.."

Well the railwayman he cut the cards
And he dealt them each a hand of five,
And for the Lord he was praying hard
Or that train he'd have to drive...
Well the Devil he had three aces and a king,
And the Lord, he was running for a straight,
He had the queen and the knave and nine and ten of spades,
All he needed was the eight...

And then the Lord he called for one more card,
But he drew the diamond eight,
And the Devil said to the son of God,
"I believe you've got it straight,
So deal me one for the time has come
To see who'll be the king of this place,
But as he spoke, from beneath his cloak,
He slipped another ace...

Ten thousand souls was the opening bid,
And it soon went up to fifty-nine,
But the Lord didn't see what the Devil did,
And he said "that suits me fine",
"I'll raise you high to a hundred and five,
And forever put an end to your sins",
But the Devil let out a mighty shout, "My hand wins!!"

And I said "Lord, oh Lord, you let him win,
The sun is down and the night is riding in,
That train is dead on time, many souls are on the line,
Oh Lord, don't let him win..."

Well that Spanish train still runs between,
Guadalquivir and old Saville,
And at dead of night the whistle blows,
And people fear she's running still...
And far away in some recess
The Lord and the Devil are now playing chess,
The Devil still cheats and wins more souls,
And as for the Lord, well, he's just doing his best...

And I said "Lord, oh Lord, you've got to win,
The sun is down and the night is riding in,
That train is still on time, oh my soul is on the line,
Oh Lord, you've got to win..."


Title: Re: Railroading and my family history
Post by: undo11 on May 27, 2012, 04:38:56 am
ignore the song lyrics. z's the one that told me, good always, inevitably wins. :D (he just forgot he said that, with that, the lord reveals the hand he had all along. hehe).
Title: Re: Railroading and my family history
Post by: sky otter on May 27, 2012, 06:08:20 am
that is one big train zorg...


[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nSrEcPdA0hE&feature=related[/youtube]

and in the list of train songs ..ya gotta add this one
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N5Ts4M3irWM&feature=related[/youtube]


[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_bxIuX8I2Mg[/youtube]



[[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qhXt8DwhaFA&feature=results_video&playnext=1&list=PL9B74C61DA7173631[/youtube]

ok..i'm done..hhahahahahah
Title: Re: Railroading and my family history
Post by: Linda Brown on May 27, 2012, 06:43:24 am
Undo.... You said "if it pays any attention to me, i'll have it derailed soon enough by first: 1) drawing its attention to me so it can't hurt innocent bystanders 2) making it chase me around so that it isn't hurting anyone else, and   3) defusing it once it has expended so much of its stupid energy trying to do evil, that it eventually has no recourse but to give up the chase.

Yea! Undo

In my head I always envision this entity following me out into deep water..... thats always my aim.... to have it out finally in water so deep it uses all of its energy just trying to stay afloat.... and I am so very happy to see that you have a plan too.  What chance does it have now????

And I agree with you.... looking back.... it was probably Amaterasu that was the target but it came at you......but you were tougher than it figured.....and I do believe that you won this hand.

Just as Zorgon says though....the game continues......
Linda

Linda
Title: Re: Railroading and my family history
Post by: undo11 on May 27, 2012, 07:47:45 am
they swim? you must think i'm kidding. lol
Title: Re: Railroading and my family history
Post by: undo11 on May 27, 2012, 07:48:56 am
thank goodness i'm not on the train or in it, either.  :D
Title: Re: Railroading and my family history
Post by: sky otter on May 28, 2012, 02:05:24 pm

DUH
how could i have forgotten this train song

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ihpnwOaJy8[/youtube]
Title: Re: Railroading and my family history
Post by: hobbit on May 28, 2012, 02:17:47 pm
And which train station was this written at?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R4EnErMCKrI
hobbit
Title: Re: Railroading and my family history
Post by: sky otter on May 28, 2012, 02:27:52 pm
 ::)

Wikepedia:

"Widnes is also known for the railway station where Paul Simon wrote the song Homeward Bound [2]. However, the original station called Widnes Central was one of those stations closed by Dr Beeching in the early 1960s. It was demolished and its site now forms part of the local dual carriageway, Ashley Way.

Despite the fact that Widnes Central no longer exists, there is a plaque commemorating this event in Widnes Station (formally Widnes North or earlier Widnes Farnworth) which is the sole remaining 'Widnes' station"
Title: Re: Railroading and my family history
Post by: Mikado on June 08, 2012, 11:51:51 am
It would appear that I have a good deal of free rent going on in some areas between ears.

There is no Mikado Effect. There is only perceived fear from what I have read in these posts. Do harm to anyone else is the invitation for negative Kharma... of that, I have enough to correct and need no more, regardless of what others may have implied.

Mikado

Title: Re: Railroading and my family history
Post by: undo11 on June 08, 2012, 12:26:40 pm
It would appear that I have a good deal of free rent going on in some areas between ears.

There is no Mikado Effect. There is only perceived fear from what I have read in these posts. Do harm to anyone else is the invitation for negative Kharma... of that, I have enough to correct and need no more, regardless of what others may have implied.

Mikado

woo so you're like famous around here.  a real bad guy,  rock star - movie star personality.  evil meanie person.   on a train. 

at least your eloquent.   your writing has a sort of cadence to it, bordering on poetry.   welcome to prc.   behave or i'll bitch and moan and fuss and pray and upset everybody, but no one will leave. :D you'll just have to listen to bitching and moaning and complaining and, i do the middle aged menopausal female schtick quite well!
 (lots of practice)
Title: Re: Railroading and my family history
Post by: sky otter on June 08, 2012, 04:19:49 pm


Undo

you crack me up

mikado..sorry i have no space to rent for ya.. ;)..my head is full..bwhahahahahah
Title: Re: Railroading and my family history
Post by: Shasta56 on June 18, 2012, 03:26:36 pm
I have a question about railroads.  I hope someone has an answer.  My grandfather's draft card from  WWI lists his pre-draft occupation as watchman.  I'm wondering if that would have been a railroad term.  I think he was living in Hanna,WY by the time he was drafted, and the town economy was based around the Union Pacific Railroad.  Any ideas?  Anybody?

Shasta
Title: Re: Railroading and my family history
Post by: A51Watcher on June 18, 2012, 04:46:18 pm
I have a question about railroads.  I hope someone has an answer.  My grandfather's draft card from  WWI lists his pre-draft occupation as watchman.  I'm wondering if that would have been a railroad term.  I think he was living in Hanna,WY by the time he was drafted, and the town economy was based around the Union Pacific Railroad.  Any ideas?  Anybody?

Shasta


Railroad Watchman job description: Protect and police railroad and transit property, employees, or passengers:


- Apprehend or remove trespassers or thieves from railroad property or coordinate with law enforcement agencies in apprehensions and removals.

- Prepare reports documenting investigation activities and results.

- Investigate or direct investigations of freight theft, suspicious damage or loss of passengers' valuables, or other crimes on railroad property.

- Patrol railroad yards, cars, stations, or other facilities to protect company property or shipments and to maintain order.

- Direct security activities at derailments, fires, floods, or strikes involving railroad property.

- Record and verify seal numbers from boxcars containing frequently pilfered items, such as cigarettes or liquor, to detect tampering.

- Seal empty boxcars by twisting nails in door hasps, using nail twisters.


 8)


eta: Have you browsed any of the online genealgy databases such as worldconnect, to see if there is additional info on  him?


Title: Re: Railroading and my family history
Post by: Shasta56 on June 18, 2012, 07:40:02 pm
Thank you A51.  I've done some browsing on some sites besides ancestry.com, but not very recently.  I keep getting sidetracked and derailed by those critters also known as grandkids.

Shasta
Title: Re: Railroading and my family history
Post by: A51Watcher on June 18, 2012, 09:08:13 pm
Thank you A51.  I've done some browsing on some sites besides ancestry.com, but not very recently.  I keep getting sidetracked and derailed by those critters also known as grandkids.

Shasta


Just for future reference when you have time, the worldconnect site is free and has tons of databases online from families. I managed to track one of my family lines back to 1460 with their help among others.

With most family lines you hit a brick wall in the 1800's because of the Civil War when they burned down the courthouses with all the records.

The main reason I had such luck with that one line back to 1460 is they were Mennonites who were very good at keeping family bibles with all the marriages and births recorded.  ;D


Title: Re: Railroading and my family history
Post by: A51Watcher on June 24, 2012, 11:04:00 pm
DUH
how could i have forgotten this train song

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ihpnwOaJy8[/youtube]






(http://i1125.photobucket.com/albums/l595/A51Watcher/MaxTraincrop.png)




Title: Re: Railroading and my family history
Post by: A51Watcher on September 21, 2015, 05:48:32 pm
Since the cause of the 'derailment' of this thread is now properly dealt with, it's time to continue.

My Grandfather was the last of the railroaders in my family, working in the machine shop on lathes, etc. making parts to repair the locomotives and passenger cars.

One of his hobbies was to become a pilot and he bought a Cessna similar to this one to putt around in -

(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/ec/C-FFXO_Cessna_Skywagon_II_185_(C185)_03.JPG)

A few times when I was about 10 he took me on a 3 state cruise and we stopped over to visit relatives. Once we were in the air he let me take the controls and drive!  8)


After he retired, he began working on his other hobbies full time.

One of them was traveling the Yosemite area with his rock hammer looking for fossils similar to these for his collection -


(http://i1125.photobucket.com/albums/l595/A51Watcher/tilobite_zpslbs5kgin.jpg)

(http://i1125.photobucket.com/albums/l595/A51Watcher/fossil-insect-lg_zps16fjku7s.jpg)



After he had a sizable collection, he made a coffee table similar to this -

(http://www.chajo.com/images/work_custom/nora_coffee_table_01.jpg)


Which relates to his primary interest which was woodworking. Similar to the machine shop I suppose but with wood instead of metal.

He was forever giving us kids "bullsh*t grinders as they were called, much like these -

(http://i.imgur.com/QREAAqv.jpg)

(https://d2t1xqejof9utc.cloudfront.net/screenshots/pics/79ca0695d3a25cf435e1aa34e72a6352/medium.JPG)

(http://wntx.org/instantgallery/albums/userpics/10002/normal_WNT_July_28_2011_031.JPG)


He also made birdhouses and all sorts of creations, whatever came to mind.


Here are a couple of actual examples of his work I inherited -

(http://i1125.photobucket.com/albums/l595/A51Watcher/P1010298_zpsvhilipry.jpg)


(http://i1125.photobucket.com/albums/l595/A51Watcher/P1010297_zps9rxukbis.jpg)

(Jewelry box)


Next time, I will post some pics of the Grandfather Clock he made entirely out of wood!

Gears and everything.   8)






 
Title: Re: Railroading and my family history
Post by: zorgon on September 22, 2015, 12:38:22 pm
Any FOSSILS left over you want to part with?

 ::)
Title: Re: Railroading and my family history
Post by: thorfourwinds on September 22, 2015, 02:55:41 pm
Greetings:

Thank you for sharing.

We absolutely LOVE the grinders.   :)
Title: Re: Railroading and my family history
Post by: A51Watcher on September 22, 2015, 07:57:02 pm
Any FOSSILS left over you want to part with?

 ::)

Unfortunately I did not inherit any of those.  :-\

Asking for any would be asking for trouble since all the relatives are still steamed and jealous that the Grandfather Clock was willed to me, for reasons they are unaware of.

More on that when I post the pics.

Title: Re: Railroading and my family history
Post by: A51Watcher on September 22, 2015, 08:00:36 pm
Greetings:

Thank you for sharing.

We absolutely LOVE the grinders.   :)

My pleasure.

My favorite is the last one.

That's a duplicate of one of the kind he made.  8)


Title: Re: Railroading and my family history
Post by: A51Watcher on October 18, 2015, 08:49:25 pm


(http://i1125.photobucket.com/albums/l595/A51Watcher/P1010306_zpsnxngbc1s.jpg)

(http://i1125.photobucket.com/albums/l595/A51Watcher/P1010307_zpsg2r3oyhq.jpg)

(http://i1125.photobucket.com/albums/l595/A51Watcher/P1010310_zpsagije5in.jpg)


Title: Re: Railroading and my family history
Post by: ArMaP on October 19, 2015, 12:56:02 am
Now that's a cool clock, I would love to have one of those. :)
Title: Re: Railroading and my family history
Post by: A51Watcher on October 20, 2015, 06:18:28 pm
Now that's a cool clock, I would love to have one of those. :)

Yeah thanks, it makes a very soothing ticking sound since it is all wood.

Maybe Santa can hook you up with one, depending if you've been naughty or nice.