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Title: Parallel Worlds Exist And They Interact With Our World, Scientists Discover
Post by: zorgon on February 22, 2015, 11:37:25 am
Parallel Worlds Exist And They Interact With Our World, Scientists Discover

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A new scientific theory called the “many interacting worlds” hypothesis (MIW) suggests that not only do parallel worlds exist, but they interact with our world on the quantum level. Scientists say that MIW could mean that parallel worlds can be detected for the very first time.

Thecollectiveint.com reports:

Though still speculative, the theory may help to finally explain some of the bizarre consequences inherent in quantum mechanics, reports RT.com.

The theory is a spin-off of the many-worlds interpretation in quantum mechanics — an idea that posits that all possible alternative histories and futures are real, each representing an actual, though parallel, world. One problem with the many-worlds interpretation, however, has been that it is fundamentally untestable, since observations can only be made in our world. Happenings in these proposed “parallel” worlds can thus only be imagined.

MIW, however, says otherwise. It suggests that parallel worlds can interact on the quantum level, and in fact that they do.

“The idea of parallel universes in quantum mechanics has been around since 1957,” explained Howard Wiseman, a physicist at Griffith University in Brisbane, Australia, and one of the physicists to come up with MIW. “In the well-known ‘Many-Worlds Interpretation’, each universe branches into a bunch of new universes every time a quantum measurement is made. All possibilities are therefore realised – in some universes the dinosaur-killing asteroid missed Earth. In others, Australia was colonised by the Portuguese.”

“But critics question the reality of these other universes, since they do not influence our universe at all,” he added. “On this score, our “Many Interacting Worlds” approach is completely different, as its name implies.”

Wiseman and colleagues have proposed that there exists “a universal force of repulsion between ‘nearby’ (i.e. similar) worlds, which tends to make them more dissimilar.” Quantum effects can be explained by factoring in this force, they propose.

Whether or not the math holds true will be the ultimate test for this theory. Does it or does it not properly predict quantum effects mathematically? But the theory is certain to provide plenty of fodder for the imagination.

For instance, when asked about whether their theory might entail the possibility that humans could someday interact with other worlds, Wiseman said: “It’s not part of our theory. But the idea of [human] interactions with other universes is no longer pure fantasy.”

What might your life look like if you made different choices? Maybe one day you’ll be able to look into one of these alternative worlds and find out.

http://yournewswire.com/parallel-worlds-exist-and-they-interact-with-our-world-scientists-discover/
Title: Re: Parallel Worlds Exist And They Interact With Our World, Scientists Discover
Post by: space otter on February 22, 2015, 12:34:42 pm


ah parellel worlds../ multible  sides to each of us  sounds like jane roberts and seth to me
but  maybe since a scientist is proposing it  won't be labeled witch doctor mumbo jumbo stuff


 :P    :P    :P    :-X    :P    :P    :P   
Title: Re: Parallel Worlds Exist And They Interact With Our World, Scientists Discover
Post by: Sgt.Rocknroll on February 22, 2015, 03:50:21 pm
I believe and I have no information other than my feelings and dreams that dimensional travel within our known universe is how 'ET' and some humans travel. I doubt that 'ET' and some humans travel through space as Matrix put it, 'farting' with rockets. lol...I remember somewhere that the Roswell craft were on a dimensional track and encountered the Van Allen radiation belt which contributed to the crash...hhmmm...as far as light speed, doesn't mass compact the closer you get to attaining light speed? If true I would imagine a human being would be colapsed into the size of a rubics cube....lol..just my thoughts...

As far as parallel Worlds, I guess everything is possible and from time to time they bump into one another causing some people to just 'disappear'. Or they overlap causing doorways for entry and egress...hhhmmm...
Title: Re: Parallel Worlds Exist And They Interact With Our World, Scientists Discover
Post by: zorgon on February 22, 2015, 04:15:15 pm
Well don't forget the most important thing we learned here at Pegasus over the years

That the MILITARY believes in both NATURAL portals and stargates... 


...we have both the official papers and the militaray ads on the stargate AF page to prove it
Title: Re: Parallel Worlds Exist And They Interact With Our World, Scientists Discover
Post by: zorgon on February 22, 2015, 04:18:17 pm
Naturally occurring anomalous teleportation phenomena that were previously studied by the United States and foreign governments were also documented in the study and are reviewed in the report.

Teleportation Physics Study
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and

Teleportation via Wormhole-Stargates
U.S. Air Force Teleportation Physics Study

Two Kinds of vm-Teleportation Identified for the Air Force Study

• Traversable Wormhole engineered as a “STARGATE”
(via Einstein’s General Relativity Theory field equations, 1915)

• Faster-Than-Light (FTL) solutions of the Polarizable-Vacuum Representation of General Relativity (Davis,Puthoff, Maccone, 2003; , Puthoff, 1999, 2000) induce a flat-spacetime version of the Stargate via engineering the vacuum EM parameters

Part 1: What are Traversable Wormholes?

• Hyperspace tunnels thru spacetime, which can:

connect together remote regions within our universe
connect together different universes
connect together different space dimensions (for higher dimensional wormholes)
connect together different chronological periods within the same space region (backwards time travel!)
Part 2 - What are Traversable Wormholes?
• Traversable Wormholes possess:

normal or backwards time flow
normal or nonexistent gravitational stresses on space travelers
entry/exit openings (or throats) that can be made to be spherically shaped, cubic shaped,polyhedral shaped, generic shaped, etc.
flat entry/exit openings are possible – a true STARGATE or flat doorway through spacetime &dimensions!

http://www.thelivingmoon.com/42stargate/03files/Wormhole_Technology.html

All these links on that page are paid fo ads :P

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Title: Re: Parallel Worlds Exist And They Interact With Our World, Scientists Discover
Post by: thorfourwinds on February 22, 2015, 04:54:43 pm
Good stuff:

However, this link needs tweaking:

PDF FILE 34 Page Report in Slide Presentation (http://www.thelivingmoon.com/42stargate/07PDF_files/Stargate_Teleportation_002.pdf)

Who paid for this (http://www.thelivingmoon.com/42stargate/04images/Series/Zeropointmodule_sm.jpg)?

And this is where info (http://www.thelivingmoon.com/01library/08legal/04permissions/Commons.html#StargateWiki) goes…

(http://www.thelivingmoon.com/43ancients/04images/Bluebird/lg50aa500a.gif)

Title: Re: Parallel Worlds Exist And They Interact With Our World, Scientists Discover
Post by: samberry on February 01, 2017, 02:46:37 am
Parallel Worlds Exist And They Interact With Our World, Scientists Discover

(http://cdns.yournewswire.com/wp-content/uploads/bfi_thumb/parallel-worlds-interact-with-our-world-2ykiph1ctr2t7g8pqmyih6.jpg)

A new scientific theory called the “many interacting worlds” hypothesis (MIW) suggests that not only do parallel worlds exist, but they interact with our world on the quantum level. Scientists say that MIW could mean that parallel worlds can be detected for the very first time.

Thecollectiveint.com reports:

Though still speculative, the theory may help to finally explain some of the bizarre consequences inherent in quantum mechanics, reports RT.com.

The theory is a spin-off of the many-worlds interpretation in quantum mechanics — an idea that posits that all possible alternative histories and futures are real, each representing an actual, though parallel, world. One problem with the many-worlds interpretation, however, has been that it is fundamentally untestable, since observations can only be made in our world. Happenings in these proposed “parallel” worlds can thus only be imagined.

MIW, however, says otherwise. It suggests that parallel worlds can interact on the quantum level, and in fact that they do.

“The idea of parallel universes in quantum mechanics has been around since 1957,” explained Howard Wiseman, a physicist at Griffith University in Brisbane, Australia, and one of the physicists to come up with MIW. “In the well-known ‘Many-Worlds Interpretation’, each universe branches into a bunch of new universes every time a quantum measurement is made. All possibilities are therefore realised – in some universes the dinosaur-killing asteroid missed Earth. In others, Australia was colonised by the Portuguese.”

“But critics question the reality of these other universes, since they do not influence our universe at all,” he added. “On this score, our “Many Interacting Worlds” approach is completely different, as its name implies.”

Wiseman and colleagues have proposed that there exists “a universal force of repulsion between ‘nearby’ (i.e. similar) worlds, which tends to make them more dissimilar.” Quantum effects can be explained by factoring in this force, they propose.

Whether or not the math holds true will be the ultimate test for this theory. Does it or does it not properly predict quantum effects mathematically? But the theory is certain to provide plenty of fodder for the imagination.

For instance, when asked about whether their theory might entail the possibility that humans could someday interact with other worlds, Wiseman said: “It’s not part of our theory. But the idea of [human] interactions with other universes is no longer pure fantasy.”

What might your life look like if you made different choices? Maybe one day you’ll be able to look into one of these alternative worlds and find out.

http://yournewswire.com/parallel-worlds-exist-and-they-interact-with-our-world-scientists-discover/


I think that there is not any proof of parallel worlds and i also think that it does not exist.
Title: Re: Parallel Worlds Exist And They Interact With Our World, Scientists Discover
Post by: The Seeker on February 01, 2017, 03:15:50 am

I think that there is not any proof of parallel worlds and i also think that it does not exist.
Ok so we know now what you think; but that is not enough to simply state that; what is your reasoning behind your statement, what avenues of research and empirical proofs do you have that lead you to this conclusion?

This area of research has been ongoing for many years, and a simple "No, I don't think so" isn't going to fly here...

 8)

Seeker
Title: Re: Parallel Worlds Exist And They Interact With Our World, Scientists Discover
Post by: micjer on March 19, 2017, 03:31:21 pm
No proof of parallel universes.... :o

Guess that settles that. 

I would argue that with the latest information provided here on this site that in deed the opposite is true.

Every time I drive by a ford and see the f with the new curl on the f I am reminded that something has certainly changed....for example. ???
Title: Re: Parallel Worlds Exist And They Interact With Our World, Scientists Discover
Post by: The Seeker on March 19, 2017, 03:46:53 pm
No proof of parallel universes.... :o

Guess that settles that. 

I would argue that with the latest information provided here on this site that in deed the opposite is true.

Every time I drive by a ford and see the f with the new curl on the f I am reminded that something has certainly changed....for example. ???
Haven't noticed that yet; and I also noticed that samberry made one post only; and I didn't even have the axe in my hand...

 8)

Seeker
Title: Re: Parallel Worlds Exist And They Interact With Our World, Scientists Discover
Post by: biggles on March 19, 2017, 03:51:35 pm
No proof of parallel universes.... :o

Guess that settles that. 

I would argue that with the latest information provided here on this site that in deed the opposite is true.

Every time I drive by a ford and see the f with the new curl on the f I am reminded that something has certainly changed....for example. ???

I know what's stopping the bees being around, I didn't see one all summer here.  But, usually we get lots of European wasps, I haven't seen one.

Its changed Mic; and I have seen so much on the ME, my head hurts, so I don't worry about it anymore, because I have totally had it up to here with everything.  Heather winks at Mic, cuz my bloody emoticons aren't working. xo
Title: Re: Parallel Worlds Exist And They Interact With Our World, Scientists Discover
Post by: Irene on March 19, 2017, 04:05:07 pm
I know what's stopping the bees being around, I didn't see one all summer here.  But, usually we get lots of European wasps, I haven't seen one.

Its changed Mic; and I have seen so much on the ME, my head hurts, so I don't worry about it anymore, because I have totally had it up to here with everything.  Heather winks at Mic, cuz my bloody emoticons aren't working. xo

I live in the Upper Midwest. It's winter now, but over the last several summers we've been inundated with bumblebees, which is wonderful. I love to watch them.
Title: Re: Parallel Worlds Exist And They Interact With Our World, Scientists Discover
Post by: micjer on March 19, 2017, 04:06:28 pm
What makes my head spin is looking at things that don't look the same as I remember and trying to figure out if it is new, don't remember, or is it old in a new time line.  Happening a lot when I am away from home   8)
Title: Re: Parallel Worlds Exist And They Interact With Our World, Scientists Discover
Post by: biggles on March 19, 2017, 04:34:48 pm
I live in the Upper Midwest. It's winter now, but over the last several summers we've been inundated with bumblebees, which is wonderful. I love to watch them.

Not one single bee have I seen Irene; usually in Summer if a bee got in, I would be running around yelling bee, bee, if it got in my residence.

None, not a one here. xo
Title: Re: Parallel Worlds Exist And They Interact With Our World, Scientists Discover
Post by: The Seeker on March 19, 2017, 04:37:45 pm
What makes my head spin is looking at things that don't look the same as I remember and trying to figure out if it is new, don't remember, or is it old in a new time line.  Happening a lot when I am away from home   8)
Mic, I don't know either; but it appears to me that either 2 timelines are entangled and either merging at a nexus point, or some of us have jumped or been bumped to a different shadow; perhaps our earth was destroyed and we were bumped over to continue our work; could possibly be several lines that are entangled...

but we are all here on the forum together, just have to take each day and each item one by one...

 8)

Seeker
Title: Re: Parallel Worlds Exist And They Interact With Our World, Scientists Discover
Post by: biggles on March 19, 2017, 04:39:43 pm
Mic, I don't know either; but it appears to me that either 2 timelines are entangled and either merging at a nexus point, or some of us have jumped or been bumped to a different shadow; perhaps our earth was destroyed and we were bumped over to continue our work; could possibly be several lines that are entangled...

but we are all here on the forum together, just have to take each day and each item one by one...

 8)

Seeker
Your scenarios sound about right to me Seeker.
Title: Re: Parallel Worlds Exist And They Interact With Our World, Scientists Discover
Post by: Irene on March 19, 2017, 05:05:06 pm
Not one single bee have I seen Irene; usually in Summer if a bee got in, I would be running around yelling bee, bee, if it got in my residence.

None, not a one here. xo

That's pretty unusual for you Down Under, isn't it, Biggles?
Title: Re: Parallel Worlds Exist And They Interact With Our World, Scientists Discover
Post by: micjer on March 19, 2017, 05:11:03 pm
Seeker.....
I remember reading that the meaning of being a service to others did not refer to volunteering at a soup kitchen sort of thing, but just being who we are, and to observe what is unfolding.

It was in the Law of One material .....? more and more of that info makes sense
Title: Re: Parallel Worlds Exist And They Interact With Our World, Scientists Discover
Post by: Irene on March 19, 2017, 05:14:05 pm
Seeker.....
I remember reading that the meaning of being a service to others did not refer to volunteering at a soup kitchen sort of thing, but just being who we are, and to observe what is unfolding.

It was in the Law of One material .....? more and more of that info makes sense

I get the feeling, and have also been told, that this is probably what is going on with me.
Title: Re: Parallel Worlds Exist And They Interact With Our World, Scientists Discover
Post by: The Seeker on March 19, 2017, 05:48:43 pm
Seeker.....
I remember reading that the meaning of being a service to others did not refer to volunteering at a soup kitchen sort of thing, but just being who we are, and to observe what is unfolding.

It was in the Law of One material .....? more and more of that info makes sense
It states that we have 2 choices, to serve others, or to serve ourselves...

look closely at the millennials and the snowflakes; that is what you get as an example of being self-serving...
service to others does not mean actual charity work or slavery, but to live your life with honesty, integrity, courtesy, respect, and passion. In the end, the selfservers will ultimately wind up serving others, and not necessarily in a good way...

 8)

Seeker
Title: Re: Parallel Worlds Exist And They Interact With Our World, Scientists Discover
Post by: biggles on March 19, 2017, 06:07:06 pm
Can I ask a stupid question, what is a snowflake.  I know what the millennials are.

Yep Mic, STO, not just thinking about yourself, but helping when you can.  Seeker said it perfect.
Title: Re: Parallel Worlds Exist And They Interact With Our World, Scientists Discover
Post by: Irene on March 19, 2017, 06:12:57 pm
Can I ask a stupid question, what is a snowflake.  I know what the millennials are.

Yep Mic, STO, not just thinking about yourself, but helping when you can.  Seeker said it perfect.

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Snowflake: A term for a person who is seen as overly sensitive and fragile.

I would add spoiled rotten and one who acts abnormally entitled.
Title: Re: Parallel Worlds Exist And They Interact With Our World, Scientists Discover
Post by: biggles on March 19, 2017, 06:50:46 pm
I would add spoiled rotten and one who acts abnormally entitled.

Aaah, thanks Irene.
Title: Re: Parallel Worlds Exist And They Interact With Our World, Scientists Discover
Post by: space otter on March 19, 2017, 06:59:17 pm


well then i guess you can say i am a snowflake
cause for a quite a while now i am super sensitive
i don't think i am fragile
but i do resent the condescending attitude being shown lately
to any one not agreeing with your point of view

that you is a general you and not  pointing at any particular person

so when i look at it - the service to self - are those calling names and pointing at others are not like them in reticule

having a differences of opinion is a good thing   imo
exchanging points of view on any subject in a respectful way is also a good thing   imo

right now the hate and the hate mongering are getting out of hand and i feel are a very real testing point
i was always taught to treat others as i wanted to be treated.. with respect even in disagrement

ok stepping down from my latest soap box
Title: Re: Parallel Worlds Exist And They Interact With Our World, Scientists Discover
Post by: biggles on March 19, 2017, 07:41:41 pm

well then i guess you can say i am a snowflake
cause for a quite a while now i am super sensitive
i don't think i am fragile
but i do resent the condescending attitude being shown lately
to any one not agreeing with your point of view

that you is a general you and not  pointing at any particular person

so when i look at it - the service to self - are those calling names and pointing at others are not like them in reticule

having a differences of opinion is a good thing   imo
exchanging points of view on any subject in a respectful way is also a good thing   imo

right now the hate and the hate mongering are getting out of hand and i feel are a very real testing point
i was always taught to treat others as i wanted to be treated.. with respect even in disagrement

ok stepping down from my latest soap box

Everyone is entitled to their opinion I believe Otter.  If someone disagrees with me I'm fine with it, because I'm not the sharpest knife in the drawer.

There are people out in the gen pop that get on my nerves, rub me up the wrong way and those are the ones that no matter what wouldn't take the time to help someone up from a fall or give a dollar or two if someone was short at the shopping till.

I was born to be a giver, I have tried to help only when I could help; if I couldn't then I couldn't.

I am on a pension and live with my cat, but the animal petitions I signed everyday were getting so time consuming and tiring I pay $7.00 a month to have them automatically filled with my deets and I just have to press the sign button.

Some of the things I read on them I try to forget they are so soul destroying.

Title: Re: Parallel Worlds Exist And They Interact With Our World, Scientists Discover
Post by: biggles on March 19, 2017, 07:54:41 pm
That's pretty unusual for you Down Under, isn't it, Biggles?

Very much so Irene; I usually have a wasp trap outside in Summer because they can sting repeatedly.  Haven't needed because I haven't see one.

There are particular spiders we have to watch out for down here in Summer as well and I note the ones I have been looking for I also haven't seen.

And no little bees, a shame that.  We do need them.
Title: Re: Parallel Worlds Exist And They Interact With Our World, Scientists Discover
Post by: Sinny on March 19, 2017, 09:12:53 pm
It states that we have 2 choices, to serve others, or to serve ourselves...

look closely at the millennials and the snowflakes; that is what you get as an example of being self-serving...

service to others does not mean actual charity work or slavery, but to live your life with honesty, integrity, courtesy, respect, and passion. In the end, the selfservers will ultimately wind up serving others, and not necessarily in a good way...

 8)

Seeker

Most of us inherited debt from birth, and are working zero hour contracts below the poverty line to continue to pay for all the debt we inherited.  One fifth of the UK population will die before they can claim their pension, and those odds are only going to increase on our current trajectory.
We show as much appreciation for our elders as is deserved.

Honesty, integrity, courtesy, respect, and passion .. are all institutionally absent, but the disillusioned are labelled 'self-serving'.

What is it about the millennials that is 'self-serving'? 

Ra would would agree that your above example is a severe distortion of The Law of One.

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The distortion lies in the fact that those who seek to serve the self are seen by the Law of One as precisely the same as those who seek to serve others, for are all not one? To serve yourself and to serve other is a dual method of saying the same thing, if you can understand the essence of the Law of One.
http://www.lawofone.info/results.php?c=Negative+Path
Title: Re: Parallel Worlds Exist And They Interact With Our World, Scientists Discover
Post by: biggles on March 19, 2017, 09:35:45 pm
Most of us inherited debt from birth, and are working zero hour contracts below the poverty line to continue to pay for all the debt we inherited.  One fifth of the UK population will die before they can claim their pension, and those odds are only going to increase on our current trajectory.
We show as much appreciation for our elders as is deserved.

Honesty, integrity, courtesy, respect, and passion .. are all institutionally absent, but the disillusioned are labelled 'self-serving'.

What is it about the millennials that is 'self-serving'? 

Ra would would agree that your above example is a severe distortion of The Law of One.

Well I will put in my two cents here.  There are some millennial kids who like gen X and Y who are no doubt good honest respectful people.

Then you have the biggest percentage of them that want, want, want, and swear a blue storm up to their parents, teachers and the rest.

Now if I even attempted something like that I would have got hit up the side of the head and sent to bed without dinner.  You knew how to behave or you would be in for it.  The same at school, taught by nuns in the early 60s and if we weren't bright enough to get something right we would get a thrashing.

That type of behavior stood us in good steed for when we became adults; always aware that if we did something wrong we would pay and pay dearly.


Then the teachers weren't allowed to corporal discipline, the new age social workers stepped in and took kids away, the kids took advantage of that and so it goes.

They are out of hand totally down here, totally disrespectful most of them and would steal anything that is not locked down, out all night boozing up, 15 and under.  Parents have absolutely no control because their told by their kids "you cant hit me or do anything or I will tell the authorities".  Ends up the parents cannot do a bloody thing.

I was too scared to get into trouble because I knew the consequences; these kids have no consequences most of the time.  Not all of them but a large percentage.
Title: Re: Parallel Worlds Exist And They Interact With Our World, Scientists Discover
Post by: Sinny on March 19, 2017, 09:39:51 pm
So basically, you want to regress back to a society which openly endorses child abuse as an easy means of control. 

This is why I have very little respect for self righteous elders.
When you've only got a hammer everything's a nail, eh. 

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Now if I even attempted something like that I would have got hit up the side of the head and sent to bed without dinner.  You knew how to behave or you would be in for it.  The same at school, taught by nuns in the early 60s and if we weren't bright enough to get something right we would get a thrashing.

That type of behavior stood us in good steed for when we became adults; always aware that if we did something wrong we would pay and pay dearly.

Funny that, the whole of my moms generation were raised by Nuns over in Ireland.. and that chite hasn't 'stood them in good stead'.
Instead they are all psychologically damaged and naught human poison containers... who attempted to raise us kids on the same backward principles.

Yea, if I was bad I got a beating all right.. but instead of molding me into an upstanding citizen, it molded me into an anti-social personality.

So much for your logic. 
Title: Re: Parallel Worlds Exist And They Interact With Our World, Scientists Discover
Post by: biggles on March 19, 2017, 10:58:20 pm
So basically, you want to regress back to a society which openly endorses child abuse as an easy means of control. 

This is why I have very little respect for self righteous elders.
When you've only got a hammer everything's a nail, eh. 

Funny that, the whole of my moms generation were raised by Nuns over in Ireland.. and that chite hasn't 'stood them in good stead'.
Instead they are all psychologically damaged and naught human poison containers... who attempted to raise us kids on the same backward principles.

Yea, if I was bad I got a beating all right.. but instead of molding me into an upstanding citizen, it molded me into an anti-social personality.

So much for your logic.

Im not logical, not normal, I'm antisocial, I'm giving, I'm empathic and a nutcase and I couldn't care less.

I'm tired of little shits running over everyone on the footpath on their skateboards and telling us to get the frig out of the way.

I'm bipolar and so is my daughter, my mother was delusional and my father, born and raised in Edinburgh was a seaman and an abusive alcoholic.

But shit we cant have everything can we; I'm in a much better position than others.

Others are on the street, no home, trying to get money for drugs.

I take my meds, my daughter doesn't; I screw up.  I still tell the ones and believe me there is only 2 that I love them but I will say it.

Your entitled to your opinion as I said to Otter, and I'm saying to you, I'm entitled to mine as well. 

Its a product of a shit of an upbringing and abusive people from mothers, fathers, teacher, and husbands but as I said better off than some.

Havent got a record, that's one thing.
Title: Re: Parallel Worlds Exist And They Interact With Our World, Scientists Discover
Post by: Irene on March 19, 2017, 11:17:20 pm
Pain is the great motivator. Kids aren't getting enough of it. Beat them within an inch of their lives and they'll straighten up and fly right.

Worked for my brother, sister, and me, and that's all I've got to say about that.
Title: Re: Parallel Worlds Exist And They Interact With Our World, Scientists Discover
Post by: biggles on March 19, 2017, 11:49:01 pm
Pain is the great motivator. Kids aren't getting enough of it. Beat them within an inch of their lives and they'll straighten up and fly right.

Worked for my brother, sister, and me, and that's all I've got to say about that.

Did for my brother, sister and me as well Irene.  It does motivate.  These damn kids including 2 out of 3 of mine are all give me, give me and give me again and we did and still didn't get any respect.  Hugs. xxoo
Title: Re: Parallel Worlds Exist And They Interact With Our World, Scientists Discover
Post by: zorgon on March 20, 2017, 12:08:18 am
Happening a lot when I am away from home   8)


Oddly enough my big 'jump' also happened when i was away from home
Title: Re: Parallel Worlds Exist And They Interact With Our World, Scientists Discover
Post by: The Seeker on March 20, 2017, 05:05:10 am
Sinead, I try to cut you a bit of slack in these discussions because you are from a different country and a different culture with different issues...

No one is advocating child abuse; the problem lies in the fact that you cannot use any type of discipline at all without the anal retentive authorities stepping in, which usually leads to your spoiled rotten brat being taken away and the parents possibly being fined and/or jailed for attempting to make their child mind and follow any rules...

between 8 years of Bill Clinton plus 8 more of the last bozo, we have these issues to deal with:
94 million unemployed, and the majority not interested in seeking employment because of all the entitlement programs such as welfare, food stamps, unemployment insurance, etc.

the second issue stems from the fact that everyone in this country under the age of 50 has been indoctrinated since kindergarten that they do not have to give any effort towards anything, that it is ok if they sit on their ass and not ever do anything besides whine, cry,bitch, piss and moan, that they will be provided for, which means that the rest of us that do have the will and desire to strive to succeed in life and provide for our families have to pay for their sorry asses...

the system is so screwed up that the teachers do nothing more than babysit simply because they have absolutely no way, shape, or form to have any control over the students

they do not have an instilled sense of right or wrong, they have few morals, are totally lacking in respect for anyone or anything, starting with themselves, much less any appreciation for anything; all they are concerned about is what they are entitled to...

Nothing in life is free.  The only way you get it your way is to earn it.

Seeker
Title: Re: Parallel Worlds Exist And They Interact With Our World, Scientists Discover
Post by: Sinny on March 20, 2017, 06:16:22 am
Im not logical, not normal, I'm antisocial, I'm giving, I'm empathic and a nutcase and I couldn't care less.

I'm tired of little poops running over everyone on the footpath on their skateboards and telling us to get the frig out of the way.

I'm bipolar and so is my daughter, my mother was delusional and my father, born and raised in Edinburgh was a seaman and an abusive alcoholic.

But poop we cant have everything can we; I'm in a much better position than others.

Others are on the street, no home, trying to get money for drugs.

I take my meds, my daughter doesn't; I screw up.  I still tell the ones and believe me there is only 2 that I love them but I will say it.

Your entitled to your opinion as I said to Otter, and I'm saying to you, I'm entitled to mine as well. 

Its a product of a poop of an upbringing and abusive people from mothers, fathers, teacher, and husbands but as I said better off than some.

Havent got a record, that's one thing.

I never said that you weren't entitled to your opinion, but at least I can stop looking for logical consistency in your reasonings.
Title: Re: Parallel Worlds Exist And They Interact With Our World, Scientists Discover
Post by: Sinny on March 20, 2017, 06:25:44 am
Sinead, I try to cut you a bit of slack in these discussions because you are from a different country and a different culture with different issues...

Why are using my name like a parent about to reprimand me?

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No one is advocating child abuse;

Really? Because it sounds like it.

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the problem lies in the fact that you cannot use any type of discipline at all without the anal retentive authorities stepping in, which usually leads to your spoiled rotten brat being taken away and the parents possibly being fined and/or jailed for attempting to make their child mind and follow any rules...

Of course you can discipline the child, its about side stepping the nanny state.
It was illegal to beat your child when I was growing up, but guess who still got beat? Where were the authorities? No where to be seen.

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between 8 years of Bill Clinton plus 8 more of the last bozo, we have these issues to deal with:
94 million unemployed, and the majority not interested in seeking employment because of all the entitlement programs such as welfare, food stamps, unemployment insurance, etc.

the second issue stems from the fact that everyone in this country under the age of 50 has been indoctrinated since kindergarten that they do not have to give any effort towards anything, that it is ok if they sit on their ass and not ever do anything besides whine, cry,bitch, piss and moan, that they will be provided for, which means that the rest of us that do have the will and desire to strive to succeed in life and provide for our families have to pay for their sorry asses...

the system is so screwed up that the teachers do nothing more than babysit simply because they have absolutely no way, shape, or form to have any control over the students

A teachers job is to teach, not to shape or control  ???
We don't want all our students turning into Cherry Marines, now do we?

If a teacher was worth their salt, they would command respect and inspire through words alone.. If you have to beat a lesson into a child, then you're not a very good teacher.

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they do not have an instilled sense of right or wrong, they have few morals, are totally lacking in respect for anyone or anything, starting with themselves, much less any appreciation for anything; all they are concerned about is what they are entitled to...

Nothing in life is free.  The only way you get it your way is to earn it.

Seeker

So far all your rants have been subjective, you'll peak my interest once you start talking objectively.

Objectively speaking, what did your older generations have that we don't? Industrial economies, for one, more purchasing power to the pound, for two.
We've grown into service based economies... It's an awful lot harder to find a job when their are a thousands applicants per post, and technology is rabidly changing the requirements of the workforce.

My statistics are true, over here in the UK.. and they don't reflect a generations who don't want to work, they reflect generations who are struggling to work.

It's not rocket science.

Title: Re: Parallel Worlds Exist And They Interact With Our World, Scientists Discover
Post by: biggles on March 20, 2017, 06:37:04 am
Seeker you summed everything up very eloquently like I couldn't do.

You are a blessing. xo
Title: Re: Parallel Worlds Exist And They Interact With Our World, Scientists Discover
Post by: The Seeker on March 20, 2017, 07:36:56 am
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My statistics are true, over here in the UK.. and they don't reflect a generations who don't want to work, they reflect generations who are struggling to work.

That sums up the main issue; you do not seem to grasp that you are in a different world, for all intents and purposes, a far different world than the world we live in, in the USA

as to your opinions and statements concerning our issues over here, you are not qualified, just as I do not critique or pass judgement on your country or your fellow countryman, because I do not live there, therefore I am not qualified;

Over the years I have acquired many friends and business associates from the UK that have shared much about your world, so I do know a bit;

So where do you get your first hand information?

Oh, since it seemed to escape you, I addressed you as an adult,not as I would if I considered you a child...

Seeker
Title: Re: Parallel Worlds Exist And They Interact With Our World, Scientists Discover
Post by: micjer on March 20, 2017, 08:15:24 am
I am very fortunate to have raised 2 sons that I am very close with. They are very polite to elders and have lots of friends which speaks volumes.

I will tell a story of my eldest son that shows his personality. When he was younger he was very in tune with the Universe so to speak. For example when he was 3 at my grandmother's funeral he insisted on wanting a rose to place on her casket. As he went up to say good bye and place the rose on top he looked back at my wife and I and said don't be sad, grandma will come back as a little girl some day.

Anyways last Christmas our same son was in line at a local department store. There was an elderly gentleman ahead of him in line. The gentleman had a walker and had a few items in a basket. They were a scarf, candles, couple cans of food, and a couple other items.
The cashier rang everything through and took the old man's card and swiped it. Well it was declined. The old man had a look of embarrassment and distress on his face.
Well my son reached in his wallet and grabbed his debit card and handed it to the cashier. He told the gentleman not to worry about it and to have a Merry Christmas.

You can't teach or beat that into any one. You are born with it.
Title: Re: Parallel Worlds Exist And They Interact With Our World, Scientists Discover
Post by: micjer on March 20, 2017, 09:15:17 am
Not every being living at this time is on the path of service to others. There are service to self entities that are part of the Orion group according to the Law of One material.

Google Law of One negative path.

These undesirables, let's call them do serve a purpose and are "here" for a reason. They have their own agenda.

Every time we see someone doing something that seems rude, we think "what a jerk"!!   Also it shows us what we don't want to be like
Title: Re: Parallel Worlds Exist And They Interact With Our World, Scientists Discover
Post by: Irene on March 20, 2017, 09:18:48 am
Not every being living at this time is on the path of service to others. There are service to self entities that are part of the Orion group according to the Law of One material.

Google Law of One negative path.

These undesirables, let's call them do serve a purpose and are "here" for a reason. They have their own agenda.

Every time we see someone doing something that seems rude, we think "what a jerk"!!   Also it shows us what we don't want to be like

I'm more inclined to believe that it's not so much free will as how others are scripted to behave. I don't believe we have free well, only the illusion of it.
Title: Re: Parallel Worlds Exist And They Interact With Our World, Scientists Discover
Post by: micjer on March 20, 2017, 09:25:33 am
If you added up all of the laws that are in place to "control" us, I would agree there is no such thing as free will.

Friend told me that in the province of Ontario there are over 500000 laws! So as long as you don't break a law you can have free will.    Haha

And that doesn't even get into the "religious laws" that many peeps follow.
Title: Re: Parallel Worlds Exist And They Interact With Our World, Scientists Discover
Post by: Irene on March 20, 2017, 09:49:53 am
If you added up all of the laws that are in place to "control" us, I would agree there is no such thing as free will.

Friend told me that in the province of Ontario there are over 500000 laws! So as long as you don't break a law you can have free will.    Haha

And that doesn't even get into the "religious laws" that many peeps follow.

It's a bit ridiculous what we subject ourselves to in the name of the law, but I suppose it's necessary considering where we're at in terms of population.

It's the height of irony to me that our forefathers fought a revolution over far less than what we're subjected to now.
Title: Re: Parallel Worlds Exist And They Interact With Our World, Scientists Discover
Post by: The Seeker on March 20, 2017, 10:35:54 am
I am very fortunate to have raised 2 sons that I am very close with. They are very polite to elders and have lots of friends which speaks volumes.

I will tell a story of my eldest son that shows his personality. When he was younger he was very in tune with the Universe so to speak. For example when he was 3 at my grandmother's funeral he insisted on wanting a rose to place on her casket. As he went up to say good bye and place the rose on top he looked back at my wife and I and said don't be sad, grandma will come back as a little girl some day.

Anyways last Christmas our same son was in line at a local department store. There was an elderly gentleman ahead of him in line. The gentleman had a walker and had a few items in a basket. They were a scarf, candles, couple cans of food, and a couple other items.
The cashier rang everything through and took the old man's card and swiped it. Well it was declined. The old man had a look of embarrassment and distress on his face.
Well my son reached in his wallet and grabbed his debit card and handed it to the cashier. He told the gentleman not to worry about it and to have a Merry Christmas.

You can't teach or beat that into any one. You are born with it.
Thanks for sharing that with us, Mic 8) I have a son and two daughters that I am very close to, all three have good families and wonderful kids, all in their thirties.

I never had to discipline any of mine too much, they learned quite quickly on their own that getting in trouble at school would get them in worse at home. I am very proud that my son looked after and watched over his sisters while they were growing up.

We teach our kids by example, yet the good qualities they have are a natural part of their personalities; it is up to us as parents to gently steer them when they encounter bumps in the road.

Seeker
Title: Re: Parallel Worlds Exist And They Interact With Our World, Scientists Discover
Post by: The Seeker on March 20, 2017, 10:42:47 am
Not every being living at this time is on the path of service to others. There are service to self entities that are part of the Orion group according to the Law of One material.

Google Law of One negative path.

These undesirables, let's call them do serve a purpose and are "here" for a reason. They have their own agenda.

Every time we see someone doing something that seems rude, we think "what a jerk"!!   Also it shows us what we don't want to be like
The scales must balance, Mic; if we didn't encounter the dark side we wouldn't appreciate the good things or know the difference...
Title: Re: Parallel Worlds Exist And They Interact With Our World, Scientists Discover
Post by: Amaterasu on March 20, 2017, 11:19:39 am
If you added up all of the laws that are in place to "control" us, I would agree there is no such thing as free will.

Friend told me that in the province of Ontario there are over 500000 laws! So as long as you don't break a law you can have free will.    Haha

And that doesn't even get into the "religious laws" that many peeps follow.

Surely as long as We consent to the legal system We are bound.  Me?  I withdrew consent from that system (and top-down controlmind) and consent to the three Laws of Ethics ONLY.  I mean, You know how many "laws" are on the books, right?  Answer: NO ONE knows.  I can't consent to that insane system.
Title: Re: Parallel Worlds Exist And They Interact With Our World, Scientists Discover
Post by: Irene on March 20, 2017, 11:20:32 am
I guess I must be evil.  ::)  :P
Title: Re: Parallel Worlds Exist And They Interact With Our World, Scientists Discover
Post by: space otter on March 20, 2017, 02:29:25 pm
well  let me type out the way i see this

first ..i feel we all are in such a place to have decided to be here now

second.. we have put ourselves into a life where we think we can make the most progress for our essence  (hopefully that word won't trigger weird associations)

third...every situation presented to us thur our live is a point where we get to choose which direction we go

do we go negative or positive

even in a negative situation you can go  either way
for example
you have a rotten childhood where you are beat  mentally or physically
what do you do
go negative and carry on that situation by your actions to others
or positive by not continuing that behavior as you age
not any of it is meant to be easy

another example is say you have had a life of ease, money privilege etc
do you go negative and turn into a bully only ever getting your own way
or positive showing others compassion and kindness

and yes all of those examples are me making a judgement of what is positive and negative...i try very very hard not to make judgements about others because our sets of circumtances are not the same
so they were only for examples
 i'm sure there are many other ways to be positive or negative in any situation


you guys have got me at a point in life where somehow i have become super sensitive to the meanness..i apologize for jumping in with words when i  have been triggered by this and am trying to be as mid line as possible but sometimes the emotions runs ahead of the brain..


Irene i don't think anyone is  pure evil or shiny good here on this planet at this time..  cause imo if they were evil or perfect they would go POOF and be someplace else

hahahah hopefully not yet another timeline



Mic how nice that your boys chose that directions - guess they picked you for a reason, huh... ;)

hey Biggles  is that the same kitten you had when you moved out there or a different one?
my mokie passed  two years in may and i still cry for that cat

hugs seeker

hey Sinny.. every generation has it's own problems bitchin about them doesn't solve them or help you.. just think of what YOU want in your life and go for it.. saving the world only comes after you have saved yourself..good luck


oh sigh.. soap box again vacated..sorry :-X


Title: Re: Parallel Worlds Exist And They Interact With Our World, Scientists Discover
Post by: zorgon on March 20, 2017, 02:30:01 pm
I mean, You know how many "laws" are on the books, right?  Answer: NO ONE knows.  I can't consent to that insane system.

So whats stopping you from robbing a bank or shooting someone? :P

Other than common sense laws, Laws are there for IDIOTS  like the law in Alaska that it is illegal to throw a live MOOSE out of an airplane..

That law likely exists because SOMEONE did that :P I assume that it IS legal to throw a dead moose out of an airplane though :P

Without laws we have ANARCHY...

When ANARCHY reigns the strongest gang leaders will rule the system in no time.  And they will be MUCH worse than any legal system we have today

Title: Re: Parallel Worlds Exist And They Interact With Our World, Scientists Discover
Post by: biggles on March 20, 2017, 03:01:55 pm
Otter, its the same cat I got from the rescue when I moved here.

I know how you feel about still crying for a much loved family member whose past.

Big hugs and kiss from me honey. xxoo
Title: Re: Parallel Worlds Exist And They Interact With Our World, Scientists Discover
Post by: biggles on March 20, 2017, 05:15:14 pm
I'm sorry if I'm on the wrong thread, but I just had to take 20mg of Valium for a panic attack; those bloody things can take me out and is part of my illness.  My daughter gets them too.

But I wanted to say to Mic, yes your little 3 year old is obviously a gifted old soul to say what he said at the funeral, about his grandmother coming back as a little girl.

I have two boys and a girl.  The eldest boy and the girl are STS and as mean as a cut snake; I really don't need that stress with what I have got.

The youngest son is a joy to behold, he is a great father and helps people out with money when they need it or anything else they need; he is a joy.

He will be in the States in July, his fifth visit and where is he going again, Las Vegas again, I don't see the attraction but boys will be boys.  His a good soul.
Title: Re: Parallel Worlds Exist And They Interact With Our World, Scientists Discover
Post by: micjer on March 20, 2017, 08:26:02 pm
Hope you are feeling better Bigsy.
Title: Re: Parallel Worlds Exist And They Interact With Our World, Scientists Discover
Post by: biggles on March 20, 2017, 10:52:30 pm
Hope you are feeling better Bigsy.

I'm okay now Mic; BTW I made a mistake up above I know your wonderful son is an adult now, not three, lol; how awesome he is. 

You've always been a sweetheart Mic. xo
Title: Re: Parallel Worlds Exist And They Interact With Our World, Scientists Discover
Post by: Amaterasu on March 21, 2017, 05:09:13 am
So whats stopping you from robbing a bank or shooting someone? :P

Other than common sense laws, Laws are there for IDIOTS  like the law in Alaska that it is illegal to throw a live MOOSE out of an airplane..

That law likely exists because SOMEONE did that :P I assume that it IS legal to throw a dead moose out of an airplane though :P

Without laws we have ANARCHY...

When ANARCHY reigns the strongest gang leaders will rule the system in no time.  And they will be MUCH worse than any legal system we have today

What's stopping Me?  Hahaha!  Such behavior is unEthical.  Two of the the three Laws would broken.  The second, in the case of robbing a bank, the first in the case of shooting someOne (unless in Self defense - that is reactionary at the foundation, not willfull).  I would expect Ethical consequences - like being taken out of social circulation (locked up).

Throwing ANYTHING out of an airplane uncontrolled is unEthical - it is an endangerment to Others.  Expect Ethical consequences.

Yes, the three Laws of Ethics are there so that society can exist.  Without them there might be pandemonium (NOT chaos - chaos has infolded seed parameters - like three Laws of Ethics - and emerges in ordered fashion; fractals are an example of chaos, and all of nature and its stigmergy is chaotic).  The legal system is in place to appear to serve Ethics, but more often than not, it thwarts Ethics, serving the psychopaths in control - everything Hitler did was legal, but surely not all was Ethical.

And no...  Without Laws We have PANDEMONIUM (maybe) - anarchy means no RULERS, not no RULES.  Without the legal system, We are free as long as We maintain Ethics.

When Ethical anarchy is achieved, no One RULES, but We ALL may join to mete consequences for unEthical behavior choices, solving the problem, case by case, of an Individual making unEthical choices.

(A case where the legal system thwarts Ethics is exemplified in cannabis prohibition.  There is nothing unEthical in smoking/eating a plant.  But the prohibition surely serves the psychopaths who own pharmaceutical companies.  My mother had glaucoma and severely damaged Her system with the "meds" She was given because She would not "break the "law"" by using cannabis.  ALL cannabis use is medical:  "recreational use" or "just wanting to get high" is treating stress.)
Title: Re: Parallel Worlds Exist And They Interact With Our World, Scientists Discover
Post by: Amaterasu on March 21, 2017, 05:42:43 am
well  let me type out the way i see this

first ..i feel we all are in such a place to have decided to be here now

I disagree, but I suppose that is not an issue.  I did not choose to be brought forth here...

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second.. we have put ourselves into a life where we think we can make the most progress for our essence  (hopefully that word won't trigger weird associations)

Sounds Self-serving...

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third...every situation presented to us thur our live is a point where we get to choose which direction we go

do we go negative or positive

I agree that We have choices in how We choose to behave - Ethically or unEthically.

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you guys have got me at a point in life where somehow i have become super sensitive to the meanness..i apologize for jumping in with words when i  have been triggered by this and am trying to be as mid line as possible but sometimes the emotions runs ahead of the brain..

You choose how You feel by what You think about and HOW You are thinking about what You are thinking about.  We did not get You to anywhere - You chose/choose that.  You are responsible for choosing to trigger.  It is a fallacy that Others are responsible for what You choose to feel.
Title: Re: Parallel Worlds Exist And They Interact With Our World, Scientists Discover
Post by: space otter on March 21, 2017, 07:09:38 am

ah amy

first let me apologize to the readers of this thread for going sooooooo sideways


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you guys have got me at a point in life where somehow i have become super sensitive to the meanness..i apologize for jumping in with words when i  have been triggered by this and am trying to be as mid line as possible but sometimes the emotions runs ahead of the brain..

You choose how You feel by what You think about and HOW You are thinking about what You are thinking about.  We did not get You to anywhere - You chose/choose that.  You are responsible for choosing to trigger.  It is a fallacy that Others are responsible for what You choose to feel.

misunderstanding here Amy.. i wasn't saying those here (or anywhere) made me super sensitive
i was saying that at this point in my life i am super sensitive WHILE also being here
and because of being super sensitive i am saying stuff i would not normally say because i am super sensitive..
and yes i probably did choose it inadvertently because of my age and family stuff going on right now.. mostly my mom who is 95 and my reaction to the dynamic between us making a carry over to how i react here

and no offense but i did start out by saying  it was the WAY I SEE IT...we all see things differently and by saying that i felt i was saying it was just my opinion

i hope that is more clear

Title: Re: Parallel Worlds Exist And They Interact With Our World, Scientists Discover
Post by: Amaterasu on March 21, 2017, 03:12:15 pm
ah amy

first let me apologize to the readers of this thread for going sooooooo sideways


misunderstanding here Amy.. i wasn't saying those here (or anywhere) made me super sensitive
i was saying that at this point in my life i am super sensitive WHILE also being here
and because of being super sensitive i am saying stuff i would not normally say because i am super sensitive..
and yes i probably did choose it inadvertently because of my age and family stuff going on right now.. mostly my mom who is 95 and my reaction to the dynamic between us making a carry over to how i react here

and no offense but i did start out by saying  it was the WAY I SEE IT...we all see things differently and by saying that i felt i was saying it was just my opinion

i hope that is more clear

[hugs!]  Yes, You did say that.  [smile]  And I was mostly giving My opinion, though I have experimental data on the choosing of My emotions.  I used to VERY often choose to depress.  A bit over a decade ago, I discovered Choice Theory by William Glasser.  At first I struggled to take responsibility for My emotions, having been indoctrinated into the concept that I am a victim of Others' words (something the social engineers at the top promote, leading to "political correctness" and "safe spaces").  Once I chose to accept that responsibility, I found I could ask Myself why I was choosing to depress, and, regardless of whether I got an answer, asking if there was a better choice.

Lo, I found that I stopped depressing.  It now has been nearly that decade that I have not chosen to depress.  And being presently homeless, destitute, and disabled...  I COULD choose to depress very easily.  LOL!

Anyway, no issues, sky.  [hugs again!]
Title: Re: Parallel Worlds Exist And They Interact With Our World, Scientists Discover
Post by: space otter on March 21, 2017, 07:19:37 pm



you're right Amy.. no issues   hugs back
be safe up there
Title: Re: Parallel Worlds Exist And They Interact With Our World, Scientists Discover
Post by: micjer on March 23, 2017, 02:38:47 pm
Bump