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CRITTERS DISCOVERED
« on: May 19, 2017, 03:39:24 AM »
Putting this here so I don't lose it till tomorrow

CRITTERS DISCOVERED

BREAKING NEWS: New Telescope Observes Otherwise Invisible Terrestrial Entities with Intelligent Movement



A new report published in the latest edition of the American Journal of Modern Physics has revealed a startling finding – a newly developed telescope with concave lenses has observed, for the first time, entities in our terrestrial environment that are invisible to our eyes and to conventional Galileo telescopes with convex lenses.  Even more surprising is the fact that these entities have been observed to move ‘intelligently’ in the night sky in a manner suggesting unauthorized surveillance of the area.

http://www.ancient-origins.net/news-science-space/breaking-news-new-telescope-observes-otherwise-invisible-terrestrial-entities-020715?nopaging=1

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Re: CRITTERS DISCOVERED
« Reply #1 on: May 19, 2017, 04:31:03 AM »
ehh, while reading through the comments section it seems you might have been a little too excited.
it seems a bit sketchy

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This paper purports to have been published in CLIFFORD ANALYSIS, CLIFFORD ALGEBRAS AND THEIR APPLICATIONS (to give it its correct title) at www.cliffordanalysis.com . But in their paper, the ‘ff’ of this url is replaced by an applet causing to a redirect to the Santilli Foundation. I find this behaviour impossible to understand and makes me suspicious of the motives of this group. By claiming to publish in a well established journal, it gives the claim spurious support, which cannot be substantiated.

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The paper itself is appallingly written, by a group who are astronomically illiterate. The repeated claim to have photographed the ‘Epsilon Alpha and Beta region of the night sky’ means nothing at all (these Greek letters are sued to designate bright stars in constellations, but since no further information is forthcoming, on their own these statement is meaningless). Further, they claim to have photographed ‘antimatter galaxies, asteroids and cosmic rays’. No competent astronomer could write such a thing as these three classes of astronomical objects have very different characteristics and cosmic rays are not detectable using imaged light. Moreover, they claim to be using only a 55mm lens with a 15 minute exposure, which is inadequate for the observations they claim to make.


Not doubting the existence of critters, I mean life finds a way in every corner of the world/universe.
It just seems this guy's evidence is severely lacking  ???

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Re: CRITTERS DISCOVERED
« Reply #2 on: May 19, 2017, 02:17:15 PM »

Not doubting the existence of critters, I mean life finds a way in every corner of the world/universe.
It just seems this guy's evidence is severely lacking  ???

Well, I would guess that most everyone might not get it right all of the time.....................but "this guy's evidence" lacking...............might be a bit of a stretch.   :D

"This guy" is not just a somebody off the street, like most of us are - he is about as accredited as one could be, with all of the "trimmings", including nominations for Nobel Prize in both Physics and Chemistry!!

Dr. Ruggero Santilli bio, also from the article:

« Last Edit: May 19, 2017, 02:22:00 PM by rdunk »

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Re: CRITTERS DISCOVERED
« Reply #3 on: May 19, 2017, 03:43:33 PM »
"This guy" is not just a somebody off the street, like most of us are - he is about as accredited as one could be, with all of the "trimmings", including nominations for Nobel Prize in both Physics and Chemistry!!
He was never nominated for the Nobel Prize. If you read what you posted you can see that he was recommended by some people to be nominated.

Also, all those credentials do not mean that he must be right. :)

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Re: CRITTERS DISCOVERED
« Reply #4 on: May 19, 2017, 04:17:28 PM »
Also, all those credentials do not mean that he must be right. :)

True

HOWEVER  take a Generation 3 Night Google or Scope and look up yourself :P They will be there :D

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Re: CRITTERS DISCOVERED
« Reply #5 on: May 19, 2017, 07:37:20 PM »
True

HOWEVER  take a Generation 3 Night Google or Scope and look up yourself :P They will be there :D
I remember a Halloween in Las Vegas with 2 extraordinary chaps with a set of night vision googles plus several hours of conversation about many interesting things; I have a Russian made night vision sniper scope that works quite well, does a very good job showing what is flitting around in the night sky here in Georgia  8)

oh, by the way, I am not calling any names but their initials were RS and JL...

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« Reply #6 on: May 20, 2017, 02:48:45 AM »
HOWEVER  take a Generation 3 Night Google or Scope and look up yourself :P They will be there :D
Something will be there, the problem is knowing what that something is.  :)

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Re: CRITTERS DISCOVERED
« Reply #7 on: May 21, 2017, 06:43:56 AM »
Interesting comment in the thread...
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Astrophysics generally discounts the possibility of widespread occurrence of antimatter in the universe as it would be expected to interact with ordinary matter, leading to large fluxes of gamma rays which would be easily detectable, and is not detected at all. Thus, the announcement the Dr Santilli had succeeded caught my attention. He presents his (copious) findings on the website of the Santilli Foundation (www.santilli-foundation.org). Checking possible references on Google Scholar, the first (and only) announcement of antimatter detection using Santilli’s apparatus is:
Preliminary confirmations of antimatter detection via Santilli's telescope with concave Lenses
By PM Bhujbal, JV Kadeisvili, A Nas, S Randall & T. R. Shelke. Checking the academic credentials of the authors, I find that two are from small, presumably non-research, Indian institutions, one is from Night Fox Productions, a Florida based wedding video company, one from the Institute for Basic Research (www.i-b-r.org) which exists to support Dr Santilli’s research and one from Thunder Energies Corporation. Since the bio states that ‘Currently, Dr. Santilli is the Chairman of the Board and Head Scientist of the new publicly traded company, Thunder Energies Corporation’ it seems that none of the authors have the scientific training needed to conduct what must be a difficult study.
This paper purports to have been published in CLIFFORD ANALYSIS, CLIFFORD ALGEBRAS AND THEIR APPLICATIONS (to give it its correct title) at www.cliffordanalysis.com . But in their paper, the ‘ff’ of this url is replaced by an applet causing to a redirect to the Santilli Foundation. I find this behaviour impossible to understand and makes me suspicious of the motives of this group. By claiming to publish in a well established journal, it gives the claim spurious support, which cannot be substantiated.
The paper itself is appallingly written, by a group who are astronomically illiterate. The repeated claim to have photographed the ‘Epsilon Alpha and Beta region of the night sky’ means nothing at all (these Greek letters are sued to designate bright stars in constellations, but since no further information is forthcoming, on their own these statement is meaningless). Further, they claim to have photographed ‘antimatter galaxies, asteroids and cosmic rays’. No competent astronomer could write such a thing as these three classes of astronomical objects have very different characteristics and cosmic rays are not detectable using imaged light. Moreover, they claim to be using only a 55mm lens with a 15 minute exposure, which is inadequate for the observations they claim to make.
The thing to realise is that whatever the primary optics of this telescope might be doing, the important thing is the detector. What is it? A photograph? Solid state? We are not told, but must presume that these will be using lenses working assuming the usual laws of optics. If his ‘antimatter light’ needs special optics to collect the light, why would a normal detector be expected to work for it? We are presented with a
series of images from this device. What are they supposed to show? There is no scale to show how much of the sky is photographed and no indication of what the contours of the detection mean. Given that these authors claim to have chosen an observing site in Sebring, Florida chose ‘for the clarity of the sky due to the absence of nearby large cities’, but then indicate they observed from a hotel window in the middle of a holiday resort. I can only think they are detecting stray light reflected into the optics. There is absolutely no analysis of the images which can be considered competent.
In short, the claim made has not been substantiated in their publications, dodgy practices worthy of scammers are used to further their aims and no independent verification of the claims has been made. All in all: a very poor effort. A lot more work, of competent standard will have to be done to convince anyone that these claims are true./quote]
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Re: CRITTERS DISCOVERED
« Reply #8 on: May 21, 2017, 05:11:52 PM »
Something will be there, the problem is knowing what that something is.  :)

Well yes BUT if you don't start by LOOKING  you will see nothing.

The very fact is that there are things 'swimming' about out there that can only be seen with night googles...

UFOlogists say they are proof that Aliens are zipping around our skies... aimlessly like moths to a flame...

Others are beginning to realize that there just might be a form of life we have not identified yet (beyond calling them "plasma critters")  that are practically invisible

But you won't find them nor understand what they are until you start looking for them :P

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« Reply #9 on: May 21, 2017, 05:16:42 PM »
Interesting comment in the thread...

The way it works is THIS


First the 'crazy people' present a way out seemingly wacky idea...  then the 'experts' come in an pounce on it denouncing the possibility and calling the presenter an uneducated lunatic of fringe science

Then the skeptics swarm and attack regurgitating what those 'experts' have postulated

In many cases the guy who presented the idea is brow beat into obscurity...

But the idea has planted a seed  which starts to grow  and bear fruit...

All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident. Arthur Schopenhauer

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« Reply #10 on: May 21, 2017, 05:24:54 PM »
All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident. Arthur Schopenhauer
That may be true, but the fact that something is ridiculed doesn't mean that it will be violently opposed and then accepted as a self-evident truth.

Some things are really ridiculous. :)

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« Reply #11 on: May 22, 2017, 06:09:31 AM »
Well, I guess I could drive on over to visit with Mr Santilli, since he and his son live a few miles away..wonder if they have a plasma cannon at the gate?

Light holds the key, and the way we and all forms of life perceive the light...likely there are numerous forms of life, occupying the same space as we, which are invisible to us and most of our current equipment, but there nonetheless.

Once we convince mainstream science that light does not travel, they will begin to realize light is the constant, and the medium in which is  immersed all things, like a sea, or as some have suggested..an aether..light may actually be a superfluid, as Cosmo has postulated...or a form of mass, misunderstood by human minds.

At any rate, we can be assured that since all of the universe is sentient, holding the building blocks to life in every molecule of it's existence, there are many different forms of life, which humans will never see or experience, even though they sit right upon our noses.

In short, we are but beans in the broth, and critters are like other parts of the soup, which we are floating in, different in form, density color, and so many other ways.

Plasma behaves in a fairly predictable way, as electrical charge passes through a medium...expressing itself by making the charge visible...so, why cant these critters be seen as forms of life sparked by the very same behavior which sparks an human sperm to fertilize an egg into a living form?

Maybe even as some have suggested, plasma critters are the beginnings of human life, waiting to enter a newly fertilized fetus and give it the power of thought, and consciousness?

Maybe they are actually thoughts themselves, electrically charged conscious packets of universal information, such as signals travelling through a human brain?

Maybe they are only here, because we are?

Or, maybe we are here, thanks to them?
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Re: CRITTERS DISCOVERED
« Reply #12 on: May 22, 2017, 01:41:03 PM »
The way it works is THIS


First the 'crazy people' present a way out seemingly wacky idea...  then the 'experts' come in an pounce on it denouncing the possibility and calling the presenter an uneducated lunatic of fringe science

Then the skeptics swarm and attack regurgitating what those 'experts' have postulated

In many cases the guy who presented the idea is brow beat into obscurity...

But the idea has planted a seed  which starts to grow  and bear fruit...

All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident. Arthur Schopenhauer

I know this well...being One presenting a way-out, seemingly wacky idea...  [smile]
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« Reply #13 on: May 22, 2017, 05:38:23 PM »
some ideas are wacky  Bwahahahahaha

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Re: CRITTERS DISCOVERED
« Reply #14 on: May 22, 2017, 06:01:14 PM »
  Plasma critters..... :D I would make a guess that with this new lens type, there are inherently new reflection properties as well. Some of witch could appear as these images do......... I like plasma animals better though  ;D

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