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Title: Is Your Phone Being Tapped?
Post by: zorgon on October 11, 2011, 01:20:50 pm
Is Your Phone Being Tapped?

Well I am sure many people that are conspiracy minded are positive that their being watched and monitored.

First step... What are you doing that make YOU think you are worth the time and expense to do that?

If you are still sure you have a reason to be concerned... read on :P

The following info is gathered from many sources. Have not checked if all these things work. Also bear in mind that in the old days they had to park a van down the street and physically hook up to your phone line, so the van would be parked near the phone box on the street (They were surface on many street corners, many still are today in sub divisions... easy to spot  big gray box)

Also your phone box is on the OUTSIDE of your house, in most cases, so the tech can service your line from outside

Here is one of the street cross connection boxes

(http://media.tcpalm.com/media/img/photos/2011/04/01/220110401122813001_t607.JPG)

(http://pactlab-dev.spcomm.uiuc.edu/drupal/2011cmn280/sites/edu.drupal.2011cmn280/files/images/1012927512_1_big-ccc-0988782-ccc-1.jpg)

As you can see anyone dressed like a phone service tech can simply open the box, attach a hand held clip on phone, and listen to any conversation. The only thing you would hear is one click when it is switched on. I used one for years checking for clean lines for security systems

(http://www.accesscomms.com.au/product_pics/T0111.jpg)

(http://thisworkinglife.files.wordpress.com/2010/10/dsc2274.jpg)

So as you can see ANYONE can get at your phone line. Look on your street, you will find such a box more than likely on the corner

Now on your house... many older homes still have the old two line blocks

(http://www.phonecoinc.com/Hires/cooke.jpg)

And in many rural areas you will see this..

(http://valdodge.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/12/2008-12-08-passmore-03813s-0.jpg)

And I have tried finding a line at old commercial sites in old warehouse areas that look like this...

(http://www.thai-eyes.com/wp-content/gallery/thailand-1/telephone-junction-box-thailand.jpg)

Newer ones look like this...

(http://www.bricklin.com/161c3c70.jpg)

(http://community.moertel.com/~thor/pix/20051115/img_0820.jpg)

These are OUTSIDE your house. You can put a padlock on them in the hole provided :P  But any crook could sneak up at night and easily disconnect your phone (or cut it) and your expensive alarm system would no longer call out for help

 :o 8)

Okay so now we all know how 'secure' our phone lines really are...

continued..
Title: Re: Is Your Phone Being Tapped?
Post by: zorgon on October 11, 2011, 01:39:29 pm
Okay so can you tell if your being tapped?

Well in the old days it was easy... there were clicks and hums because other equipment was drawing the power on your line. Regular Police still use these older methods... but they are still under strict guidelines and need court orders to get a tap.

Here is one solution you will need to try...

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Originally posted by dynamitedice (http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread37009/pg10#pid9043638)

First Method
Call 202-543-9994
Listen for a steady monotone signal with no interrupts.  That means you are not being tapped.  If you hear any interruptions in the signal tone, then you are being listened to.

Second Method:
Call 101028817709889664
They will first repeat the phone number you are calling from and then repeat a bunch of zeros.    The number at the end of the zero’s is what is important.   If it is a 1 – you have never been tapped and are not presently tapped.
If it is a 2 it means you have been tapped in the past but no longer are tapped.
If it is a 3 it means you ARE being tapped presently and you need to be careful what you say over the phone.

Also, you could try an address phone tap prevention.

You will eliminate your chances of having your privacy invaded via phone tapping , with the use of a phone tap detector. This is small electronic device that you can easily connect to your LAN line . The device will alert you by red or green light indication whether or not someone else is listening in on your phone call . You can purchase a phone tap detector online for around $10-$30 on Ebay.com or Overstock.com (See resources section below for more)

Hope this helped! This is just information I got off of other websites, so hopefully it works. Good luck! :D

Now here is an answer by Bedlam at ATS. Bedlam is a spook :P John says he is "one of the good guys" so I will take that as gospel :D

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Originally posted by Bedlam (http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread37009/pg10#pid11784190)
If it's the Feds, you won't know, and the "magic tapping numbers" aren't going to tell you anything either.

Local cops often use direct taps, which you can spot with an impedance detector.

But the Feds can just order the phone company to copy the phone traffic at the switch. When you call out, or someone calls in, the switch will ring a phone at the FBI office and your conversation will be available to the agent. No clicks, no pops, no breathing on the line, no impedance tell-tales, nothing. You just won't know. It's part of CALEA, and one of the the relevant standard documents for it is J-STD-025B. They can also get the cell network to do the same thing with cell phone calls.

BTW, why do you think those "tapping detection" numbers are actually anything of the sort, other than people have echoed it all over the net? I could put a number on that just beeped at you like that and say it meant anything. If you don't know who it is and how it works, and it sounds fishy to me, I wouldn't trust it at all.

Two other posts worth mentioning as relevant...

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Originally posted by Doc Velocity (http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread37009/pg10#pid9044669)
How can you tell if your phone is tapped?  Easy.

Do you have a phone?  It's tapped.

Seriously.  Your phone service, regardless of their security promises, works hand-in-hand with the Federal Communications Commission (the FCC).  The FCC, in turn, works hand-in-hand with Homeland Security.

You can just take it for granted that somebody is eavesdropping on your conversations, whether on landline or cellphone.

In the same way they monitor the Internet for written occurrences of "bomb" and "jihad" and "Obama sucks," the Federal Government monitors telephone and 2-way radio traffic, as well — listening for utterances of "bomb" and "jihad" and "Obama sucks"... Of course, the Feds will indignantly deny it, but if you press them they do admit that they have the advanced capability to eavesdrop on a billion individual channels or more.  The "leash" restraining them, they say, is THE LAW.

Hyuck hyuck, yeah RIGHT. :o  That's a good one.

So, you can just take it for granted that your phone is tapped.

—Doc Velocity

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Originally posted by Truth1000 (http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread37009/pg10#pid9044797)
My answer is this:

Who is doing the tapping?

If the answer is some of the people I used to work with, the answer is that you simply WILL NOT KNOW!  The tapping does NOT have to occur within your telephone, or even in the telephone line running to your house.  There will be NO EVIDENCE that your line is tapped, and only they could do the type of checking to find out that your phone is tapped.

That is life in the 21st Century, people!

(Actually, that was even life late in the 20th Century)

Well that pretty much covers it for regular phones... stay tuned for the BAD NEWS

ECHELON and MUOS Monitoring Stations; Website monitoring; NSA Super Computers and

YOUR CELL PHONE IS A SPY (http://files.abovetopsecret.com/images/smilies/wow.gif)
Title: Re: Is Your Phone Being Tapped?
Post by: zorgon on October 11, 2011, 01:58:49 pm
NSA Wiretapping

NSA Wiretapping Cartoon Walt Handelsman

[youtube]3knYQaK1yDc[/youtube]

Now other than the obvious 'terrorist' prevention and real law enforcement..WHY would all these intel agencies need to collect so much mundane data on us all? I mean we KNOW facebook is a CIA/NSA info gathering operation, right? Well you see what get posted there  utter drivel in most cases.

So of what use is all that data?

AI  Artificial Intelligence

In order for a super computer to be a true AI, it needs INPUT on EVERYTHING from the high tech stuff... to the gossip of teens on a social network site.

THAT is why they do it

They feed all that data into supper computers like this one below. (This one is already obsolete, that is why they can show it to us) Despite the cartoon, all searches are done by key words, key phrases and PROFILING

I can say BOMB... I can say Bush needs to be arrested and sent to Gitmo... that alone is not enough to trigger the knock on the door. Now if I was having this conversation with a friend in Iran...well NOW it would be of interest to someone.

LOL funny thing is I met a chap in Iran via an online game. Turns out he is Ex Iranian Intel and now part of the Green Movement to get rid of the tyrants in Iran... and he wants to move to Canada and marry a girl... Long story that... apparently they can't just ask her... need a middle man to contact her family first  :o

I digress... but the point is they use all the data to create profiles... then flag people from that

Super Computer - Worlds fastest watercooled computer

[youtube]BH8X8w8a4f4[/youtube]

The N.S.A needs the fastest computers in the world for code breaking, ect, These super computers are nicknamed "THE THINKING MACHINE" (for good reason)


ya know  when you read the YT comments, you have to wonder about the fact that no one really cares :P

New NSA Facility
Fort Gordon, Georgia


New Secret facility for the NSA super computers (well it was when we first found the info :P)

(http://www.thelivingmoon.com/45jack_files/04images/NSA/fort_gordon_01.jpg)

New NSA Facility Fort Gordon, Georgia  (http://www.thelivingmoon.com/45jack_files/03files/Information_Gatherers_NSA_CSS_Georgia.html)

Eyeballing theNSA/CSS Georgia - Cryptome (http://www.thelivingmoon.com/45jack_files/02archives/Eyeball_NSA_Fort_Gordon.htm)

NSA - National Security Agency (http://www.nsa.gov/) - Official Site
Title: Re: Is Your Phone Being Tapped?
Post by: zorgon on October 11, 2011, 02:17:02 pm
Your CELL PHONE is a SPY

Yes it is true  and this will scare the crap out of you and may save you money when you throw them away :P

Okay first there is a risk of brain damage from prolonged use next to your head (It IS microwaves after all), but lets forget about that for now...

And yeah the government ECHELON and particularly the MUOS listening posts around the world can easily monitor them (they ARE afterall unsecure simple radio transmission.. most people forget about that..digital, not analog to be sure, but still UNSECURED TRANSMISSIONS)

But lets forget about the FEDS for now... they are pussycats and if your not a mad bomber. let them listen. Pretty boring job listening to all that gossip all day and night waiting for someone to say "Bomb the White House" or something like that  (waves at the CIA guy... :P )

Here is the real problem...

So... you want to listen in and spy on what your teens are planning? NO PROBLEM... just download a simple application from the internet

Now sit back and watch this TERRIFYING film...  and I STRONGLY suggest you read the article

Tap A Cell Phone Video

Tap BLACKBERRY Cell Phones with Spyere
Tap ANDROID Cell Phones with MobiStealth

Why Tap a Cell Phone" Reason #3 (Employee Monitoring)
Why Tap a Cell Phone" Reason #2 (Monitor Teen CellUse)
Why Tap a Cell Phone" Reason #1 (Catching a Cheating Spouse)


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Here is a good video showing how spy phone software can be used to tap a cell phone. While watching this video, keep in mind that all the features demonstrated in this video are available for most of the popular smart phones sold today.  The list includes Android, BlackBerry, iPhone, Symbian, & Windows Mobile.  If you've ever wanted to see how to tap a cell phone, you'll get to see spy phone software in action.  You'll also see a variety of spy phone companies in this video, but only MobiStealth or Spyera offer spy software that enables you to tap a cell phone.

The other products shown (bluetooth spy software) not only don't enable you to tap a cell phone, but they don't work. Enjoy the video.

BlackBerry Spyware

[youtube]3vnAg0EvWIw[/youtube]

Tap A Cell Phone Video (http://www.tapacellphone.com/)

Telephone Tapping - Wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Telephone_tapping)


Lots of info there at Wiki about the legality and methods

So ready to toss away that cell phone?

 ::)
Title: Re: Is Your Phone Being Tapped?
Post by: zorgon on October 11, 2011, 02:27:02 pm
Webtapping

Logging the IP addresses of users that access certain websites is commonly called "Webtapping".

Webtapping is used to monitor websites that presumably contain dangerous or sensitive materials, and the people that access them. Though it is allowed by the USA PATRIOT Act, it is considered by many a questionable practice, if not an all-out violation of civil liberties.


They really got us good with that Patriot Act...

We WILLINGLY gave up our rights to privacy and freedom, because someone told us we need to be afraid of terrorists...

Since WHEN did Americans become afraid? The Japanese bombed Pearl Harbor, a valid military target, and we NUKED two cities in return

Some supposed pansie Arabs supposedly stole a couple of planes and supposedly took out a building in New York... and what do we do?

We treat our citizens like criminals with TSA groping children and your private parts, the Patriot Act which allows the cops into your car and house without worry about the constitution, and we STILL blitz those Arab nations back into the stone age... Oh yeah but its not "war"  We are not at war with Iraq... we are fighting for THEIR freedom... that is why its called "Operation Iraqi Freedom" in case you forgot...

so we can clean out these terrorist...

Anyway.... that is why they can tap your phone, search your body, car and home, record your cell phones and watch your online activity..

And there is NOTHING you can or will do about it...


This man is probably turning over in his grave

(http://www.hulsestrength.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/09/ben_franklin.jpg)

They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety

This was written by Franklin, with quotation marks but almost certainly his original thought, sometime shortly before February 17, 1775 as part of his notes for a proposition at the Pennsylvania Assembly, as published in Memoirs of the life and writings of Benjamin Franklin 
Source (http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Benjamin_Franklin)


When did America forget the wisdom of the Founders?
Title: Re: Is Your Phone Being Tapped?
Post by: zorgon on October 11, 2011, 02:42:06 pm
Solutions?

1) Hire a professional Investigation Team to check if your being bugged. If you are seriously concerned, it is not that expensive for a one time sweep.

2) NEVER give out password, email contacts, and any other info on the web or the phone to just anyone who asks. Teens and kids will answer a phone and just answer questions honestly... not realizing what they are doing. Facebook askes you for your email password to 'check for your friends' They PROMISE they don't keep it... RIGHT  give them my PASSWORD? You have got to be kidding me? Sure you say NO F'in WAY, but you would be surprised how many people just do it without thinking. Once done, it cannot be undone.

3) Want a free way? Well just plan some bombing caper and tell a friend... you will soon find out :P

errr  KIDDING  :P NOT A GOOD IDEA

4) Don't worry about it and carry on as usual... just THINK about what you are saying and who may be listening. A Senator once had an idea for a radio show. (he made his money in radio) He excitedly talked it over with potential partners in a restaurant. Two weeks later he heard his show on a station... Seems someone in the booth next to him over heard and took notes

As one of my contacts once put it..

"I'll help you hold the dogs at bay, like the nice visitors that talk with a monotone, have no humor, and use black as the preferred aesthetic appeal in apparel. That should be easy enough with honesty and truth. No one else uses that tactic. It'll really throw them off."

I have been visited already, fellow spent three days chatting with John and me... drove a yellow van  :o but had the appropriate DoD/AF Intel/DIA parking decals in the window...

I asked about that with another insider...  his reply...

"Your note is full of so many things that we could chat about...literally for hours.  What really caught my interest was the story about the 'visitor' y'all had.  I used to do similar things...get in the car...drive over half of God's Creation to 'visit' with people, scientists and some folks with special skills.<snip> 

Remember...for someone to be able to do that (travel, etc.)...that takes a 'budget', schedules, etc.  And in order for someone to do something like that (like I used to do right after 9/11 thru early -03)...someone who has a discretionary budget generally finances those kind of 'intel' projects.  Does the term 'reconoiter' mean anything to you? (LOL)!  Just be careful..  They probably don't consider you guys to be a threat, or they'd have already 'bored you to death with conversation' (ROTFL!).  A futher consideration is the 'spoon-feed-effect'.  No need to extrapolate on that issue/prospect."


So I wouldn't worry too much about the Feds :) I would be more concerned about your fellow citizens who don't have your best interests at heart  8)
Title: Re: Is Your Phone Being Tapped?
Post by: biggles on October 11, 2011, 05:21:03 pm
I am changing from Optus to Telstra because of too much static on line with Optus wifi modem.

A Telstra tech is coming out next Tuesday to connect me up......I think I am way too tired to be paranoid, but I will get very ansty if I am dragged into a car by the pleasing apparel men and driven to an installation with no cable or my other need to haves.

Having said that I do believe they can bite me.  I mean what's the ratio of FBI, CIA, and all the rest having sociopaths in their midst.  I should be in the right company actually, I would know them inside and out.  :(
Title: Re: Is Your Phone Being Tapped?
Post by: Gigas on November 17, 2011, 04:46:17 pm
My phone landline has been comprimised since 1998. I had number changes and the service shut off for a time. I have had the phone company out several times to check my line and they tell me nothings wrong. I also have changed phones from a wired to numerous wireless phones and the issue remains.

I will be talking and hear a click or tones or the other party will no longer hear me or I will no longer hear the other party. When I am talking some deep information on the phone, the line will just go dead. In a call I was on earlier this year, it went dead 5 times on call backs. Someone did not want me and the caller speaking about our information.

Someone is on my calls every time my line is active. Also my internet is comprimised as well.
Title: Re: Is Your Phone Being Tapped?
Post by: Gigas on November 17, 2011, 04:51:37 pm
I just tried the Call 101028817709889664

method but first star 67 the call to block my number. The recording came back with my number and the zero code ended in a 1. Blocking my number failed to the system.
Title: Re: Is Your Phone Being Tapped?
Post by: Somamech on November 21, 2011, 09:56:44 am
I've been meaning to post in this thread, and tonight I had a recall of how my phone when I was in my early teens (I think?) or there abouts was tapped by ASIO due to one of dads friends gaining some kind of license to become a small time arm's dealer.   Oddly enough this guy was dealing with China and could speak fluent Mandarin....

I do remember witnessing a practice grenade at a party on the farm where I grew up being used during some party with a few people which was quite cool as a kid seeing.   

Both Dad and this guy used an Uzi on the farm but that was top secret "Mates" biz which we only found out about at an later date.  This was the 80's and Uzi's were the "movie gun" which all kids thought killed the bad guy's.  As anyone knows if they are from Oz or keep up with Oz gun laws... An Uzi would have you in hot water then, and in Hot Lard Now   LOL

I personally believe everything can be monitored when it comes to electronic communication. 

Another odd tale I encountered not so long ago:

I like searching online for doc's from the DSTO/CSIRO etc.  One night I came upon a very intruiging Linguistics paper written by DSTO.  The odd part was not what is in the paper but who I sent it to.  The paper is odd no doubt as what is descibed has to be used for other purposes than mentioned.

What was really odd is that I emailed the DSTO doc to George Ure thinking it may help the webbot.  Now for start I don't believe the webbot is anything to listen to, but I like reading George's blog a few times a week as it makes for a bit of saner reading in summarising the world, and I find the idea novel.

Weird thing is that later on someone urged me to listen to this interview of the webbot dudes and they were saying that Oz and NZ sites were blocked and their bot's couldn't do their work here.  When i heard that I went back to the post i made on small forum where I posted the email I sent to George and it weirdly almost coincidered with their timing they mentioned on the radio interview. 

The doc is here:

Title:  The Use of Systemic-Functional Linguistics in Automated Text Mining

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Abstract:  Systemic-functional linguistics is a linguistic framework for the analysis of grammatical and semantic information in text, with a potential role in automated text mining. This report outlines essential features of the theory, its application in computational work, and the rationale for use in automated text mining, and develops a grammatical annotation scheme– word functions– to enrich a mixed text corpus of newspaper articles and e-mails, for machine learning of semantically-oriented grammatical patterns. Testing demonstrates high accuracy in predicting word functions in unseen text in co-training with other grammatical information, providing the basis for further grammatical and semantic text processing. 



Code: [Select]
http://dspace.dsto.defence.gov.au/dspace/handle/1947/9900
 

 
Title: Re: Is Your Phone Being Tapped?
Post by: starwarp2000 on November 21, 2011, 09:32:41 pm
When they switched the Phone system here over to Digital Switching Networks, they installed dedicated real-time taps that can Multiplex any line and route it to ASIO's listening Station.

(http://thisworkinglife.files.wordpress.com/2010/10/dsc2274.jpg)

Funny that you used a Telstra picture Zorgs!  ;D
Title: Re: Is Your Phone Being Tapped?
Post by: Somamech on November 22, 2011, 10:00:14 am
I wont ask any question's Starwarper  ;D   :P

Interesting you mention that about Telstra LOL

A person I've known on a forum for a long long time, the sorta person one trust's and call's up from time to time... once spilled some beans from his days which he his now ashamed of working as an Electrical Engineer for Telecom.   (this guy gave me a blast once for working for company's that do evil...  ;D )

He had to design a Naval Network somewhere on the east coast in the NSW region.  He was given clearance and proceeded to work Four level's underground whilst designing the system next to the coast.   He said it had (off the top of my Head, yeah not a good memory bank as this is a couple of years ago) that it was designed to have three switches.  One for normal web, and the others for internal. 

When I was doubting Gary's Story and I asked him about it he said "It's very possible as there are some real Drongo's working in these sorta places".

Well this same guy is a defender of the free web and he also said that everything you could be watched and most likely is.  He said "Everything switches back to a Higher Node" 

Phew now gotta read that seismic thread...  :o   ;D

 








Title: Re: Is Your Phone Being Tapped?
Post by: Dood on November 25, 2011, 11:04:10 am
I just tried that Second Method with the 101 number.


It says that service does not work with my line.


We have a internet phone line now so I assume that number is for a true hard line...
Title: Re: Is Your Phone Being Tapped?
Post by: Somamech on November 26, 2011, 10:50:01 am
Phew needed a break from attempting to edit a video  :-\

Putting some thought into this again as it does intrigue me on so many levels.  I'll refrain from rash judgement's in regards to where I first initially emailed this doc to (a first LOL)

There's a few clues in this !



Title:  The Use of Systemic-Functional Linguistics in Automated Text Mining
 


Code: [Select]
http://dspace.dsto.defence.gov.au/dspace/handle/1947/9900
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Abstract:  Systemic-functional linguistics is a linguistic framework for the analysis of grammatical and semantic information in text, with a potential role in automated text mining. This report outlines essential features of the theory, its application in computational work, and the rationale for use in automated text mining, and develops a grammatical annotation scheme– word functions– to enrich a mixed text corpus of newspaper articles and e-mails, for machine learning of semantically-oriented grammatical patterns. Testing demonstrates high accuracy in predicting word functions in unseen text in co-training with other grammatical information, providing the basis for further grammatical and semantic text processing.
 

Unseen ?   :o

 
Title: Re: Is Your Phone Being Tapped?
Post by: stealthyaroura on February 04, 2012, 10:31:27 am
I have an APP on my iphone that lets me put any mobile number in and it puts up a map and tells me exactly where that phone is. i got it just for fun and to show people the hard facts about how easy it is to track say your spouse if you suspect there up to no good etc. and the so called "key words" are a given that they will turn a red light on at any of the echelon stations such as RAF menworth hill UK harrogate north yorkshire.
Title: Re: Is Your Phone Being Tapped?
Post by: hobbit on February 04, 2012, 10:52:45 am
As someone who has worked at both menwith hill and Irton moor.
I am someone who has never owned a mobile phone.
hobbit
Title: Re: Is Your Phone Being Tapped?
Post by: Linda Brown on February 04, 2012, 11:50:31 am
Hi Hobbit.

And I know someone who gives her cell phone to someone else who takes it on "vacation" in other parts of the country......while she hightails it in another direction.

And even in the sixties, regarding my Dads work I was told several things......

"If you don't want anyone to overhear what you are saying...... don't say anything." That cuts it pretty clean.

And  " if you see or sense anyone following you..... they are underlings or amateurs or they WANT you to know that they are there. You will never see the big guys."

Linda
Title: Re: Is Your Phone Being Tapped?
Post by: Amaterasu on February 04, 2012, 05:01:16 pm
I accepted the fact that I'm probably being watched long ago.  At this point, as I have nothing to hide, I accept it.  I am not pleased, but what can I do except end the "need" for such activity.  And that is an uphill battle.

For now...  [shrug]  I just accept.
Title: Re: Is Your Phone Being Tapped?
Post by: zorgon on March 05, 2012, 10:56:06 pm
"If you don't want anyone to overhear what you are saying...... don't say anything." That cuts it pretty clean.

Yeah 'Silence is Golden'  However if you don't say anything , it makes it very hard to communicate with those that need to hear what you have to say. :D

99% of Android Phones Leak Personal Data

(http://www.securitynewsdaily.com/images/i/197/i02/bad-android-02.jpg?1323466618)
Image composite by SecurityNewsDaily


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99% of Android Phones Leak Personal Data
17 May 2011 | 12:03 PM ET | Matt Liebowitz, Security News Daily Staff Writer


Google's Android mobile operating system is again in the hot seat after German researchers found that a security flaw causes nearly 100 percent of Android phones to leak users' secret account credentials.

Researchers at the University of Ulm explained that the problem lies in ClientLogin, a Google authentication protocol that verifies communication between Android phones and Google apps such as Google Calendar, Google Contacts and Picasa, as well as third-party Android apps such as Twitter and Facebook.

99% of Android Phones Leak Personal Data (http://www.securitynewsdaily.com/697-99-of-android-phones-leak-personal-data.html)

 :o 8)

[youtube]Oo4OnQpwjkc[/youtube]
Title: Re: Is Your Phone Being Tapped?
Post by: stealthyaroura on March 06, 2012, 01:08:28 pm
As someone who has worked at both menwith hill and Irton moor.
I am someone who has never owned a mobile phone.
hobbit
Hey hobbit both menworth hill & irton moor eh, there only spitting distance from me! I'm in beetween both sites & know them quite well.
Care to elaborate a little on your time there? I do understand if you can't talk pal. My uncle was a radar techi at RAF fylingdales in the 60s to 80s out near Whitby there. Interesting job you had/have.
Title: Re: Is Your Phone Being Tapped?
Post by: Gigas on March 06, 2012, 04:08:15 pm
For the longest time I had this Erie feeling I was being watched. My phone definitely was being monitored and screwed with as is my internet connection. Just a couple days ago I was having a conversation where the line went click and the incoming call was disconnected. The caller immediately came over and we finished the conversation.

The caller was in a holy sheet moment cause I told the caller my phone is monitored and whoever is there, disconnects the line when conversation is made of the things nobody is willing to discuss in public. My mail is tampered with also. I made a charge to the postal service that my mail was being opened. It only occured to important mail that was of interest and not junk mail or bills. I had some litigation going on with some local business and that was being opened before delivery.

Anyway, I have this little story from Dr Steven Greer of the disclosure project who has something you really want to know.

Circles of Power behind UFO secrecy

Dr. Steven Greer from nexus magazine Volume 13, Number 6 (October - November 2006)


After my childhood and adult contact experiences, I formed CSETI (Center for the Study of Extraterrestrial Intelligence) to formalize contact protocols and teach them to other people, which we do through the CSETI week-long trainings. I realized early on, however, that there were human forces that could not be ignored whose aim was to discourage or block peaceful interaction with extraterrestrials.



My approach became two-pronged:

(1) to teach people how to contact extraterrestrial civilizations in peace

(2) to bring out the truth about the subject to governments, the military and the general public.

I like to call my book Hidden Truth – Forbidden Knowledge my personal disclosure, as it contains highlights of my spiritual journey, my interaction with extraterrestrial intelligence and with the so-called "secret government". This chapter gives a glimpse into the entity and how its members operate.


In 1993, before I briefed the CIA director, my contact for meetings at high levels had suggested that we name our operation "Project Starlight". So that's what it was called in the early days. The philosophy behind it was to assemble absolutely the best evidence that was available, which had been rigorously tested and proved, and to identify military, corporate and intelligence witnesses to programs and events. Then, with an iron-clad case in hand, we would brief the President, the intelligence and military community, Congress, the United Nations leadership and other leaders around the world, in advance of disclosure.


We knew it was crucial at the very least to give the system a chance. It's very important to understand that our intention was not simply to go in like a bull in a china shop and bring all this very sensitive information out, without first fully apprising the constitutional leaders of the world and inviting their participation. At the time, many people thought I was being silly and naive, that "those people" would never get behind something this controversial. But that's not the point!



The point is, from our perspective, that we had a moral responsibility at least to give them an opportunity to do the right thing—and if they didn't do the right thing, then it would be on their consciences and not ours.


I felt strongly that we had the obligation to give these leaders the current assessment of the situation and say to them,

"You need to take a leadership role, if this is going to be accomplished by you and not by an outside group [meaning, The Disclosure Project and CSETI]. You have an ideal opportunity that has opened after the end of the Cold War to break the cycle of misinformation, to make a fresh start."

After I met with the CIA director, a contact set up a meeting between Senator Byrd's chief investigator and counsel for the Senate Appropriations Committee and me. Senator Byrd was then chairman of the committee and very powerful. This man was named Dick D'Amato—not to be confused with Senator D'Amato from New Jersey. Dick D'Amato had a Top Secret clearance and had subpoena power from the Senate Appropriations Committee.


We met in the Senate Appropriations Committee meeting room—a huge, ornate room with a giant table and brass nameplates for each member of the committee.



He proceeded to tell me:

"I've been asked by Senator Byrd and some others to look into these things, and we've gotten close enough to know that these projects do exist. But I'm telling you that with a Top Secret clearance and a subpoena power from the Senate Appropriations Committee, I cannot penetrate those projects."



He looked at me—I'll never forget it—and said, "You're dealing with the varsity team of all black projects, so watch out. And good luck."

And that was the end of that.


Dick D'Amato and people like him know this is real, but they cannot get their hands around it or control the expenditures.
Access to these projects has nothing to do with rank or position. Access has to do with whether or not you are willing to go along with the secrecy. That is the only criterion that matters: whether you are willing to play along with the agenda.



Inside the shadow government


Those who shouldn't be in control but are comprise an illegal, rogue, break-off group that is transnational and whose members are not only ruthless and murderous but operate completely without any legal authority. When you're dealing with something as fundamentally important as this, involving technologies as powerful as those described, you begin to realize the risks to the world of allowing this masquerade to go on, unchecked, decade after decade after decade.


In 1994, an FOB (a friend of Bill Clinton) came to my home after I had briefed the CIA director. He was a very easygoing, affable guy.



He said,

"You know, everyone agrees with what you're recommending, but there's a consensus that if the President does what you've suggested to him and to the CIA director—that they exert executive power to get inside this operation and disclose it—the President will end up like Jack Kennedy."

I thought he was joking, and, to be honest with you, I laughed out loud. I truly thought, "Oh, come on." But no, he was deadly serious. And he made it very clear that he was serious.


So it went from crisis to crisis as I came to realize that the government of the United States—and of every other nation—was really hostage to an illegal, rogue group that had technologies that could do circles around a B-2 Stealth bomber and could, at will, terminate a presidency or terminate any other person who got in its way. This was made very clear to me by people who were in the inner circle of the greatest corridors of power on Earth.


Obviously, this weighed on me very heavily. I would say the period between 1992 and 1998... those six years were extremely traumatic for me. I would keep my chin up and publicly keep moving forward, but on a deep personal level it was devastating. I never lost faith in what we should do, but it was made very clear to me that the task was enormous, that the hour was late and that the stakes could not be greater.


You have to understand the compartmented nature of these interlocking interests that are keeping all this secret. They are mainly in the corporate, institutional, financial and technology sectors. The government of "We, the People" is the least important component of it, and this includes the military, the CIA, the NSA, the NRO, Army intelligence, Air Force intelligence—all of that is window dressing for an operation that's quite outside it. The real action is a hybrid group that is quasi-governmental but mostly privatized and utterly transnational—and completely illegal.


Some of the chieftains of that group invited me to meet with them after I had met with the CIA director. In advance of the meeting with the CIA director, my contact to Woolsey was terrified by the idea that anyone would find out about the meeting. He was doing everything through FedEx, and he wanted me to talk with him on the phone at telephone booths, talking in a code!



I said,

"We don't need to bother doing that, because the group that we're up against has technologies that can frustrate any system you can devise."

Well, he had been on the shortlist to be Clinton's Secretary of the Navy. So he knew the spook world fairly well. But he had been in the conventional military and intelligence world. I knew what we were up against, but he didn't.



So he said,

"Oh, no, we have to do this. You're just a doctor! I've been in all these circles, and we have to be careful."

So I humored him. I tried to explain to him that there was no way to frustrate the surveillance capabilities of this covert group, because they had non-local, "scalar" technologies that would enable them to bypass entire generations of electronics. Even the state-of-the-art NSA and NRO stuff is nothing compared to what they have, because what they have are electronic interfaces with consciousness, where they can monitor things in real time all the time. Well, he didn't know this. I knew it and had remote-viewed them remote-viewing me.


So I went along with his game. But before I had the meeting on December 13, 1993, someone who had been tied into these projects in the military in Arizona came to me and said:

"I understand you're going to be meeting with Jim Woolsey, the CIA director, about such and such on this date." I said, "I won't confirm or deny that, but isn't it interesting that you would comment on it?"

I reported this to my contact and had to pull him off the ceiling! He went ballistic!

"How could this be found out?" I said, "M.J., you haven't been listening."

The problem is that most people are too arrogant to know what they don't know.


I should also mention that during my visit to New York in the winter of 1994, while at the Hilton on Sixth Avenue, I got a phone call from a "reporter". And he said:

"I'm a freelance reporter for the Wall Street Journal. I understand you had a meeting with Admiral Woolsey regarding UFOs and extraterrestrial intelligence. What can you tell me about that?"

I didn't lie; I just asked a rhetorical question: "Do you really think a sitting CIA director would meet with a country doctor from North Carolina about a subject like UFOs and extraterrestrials?"

And he said, "Well, no, I guess not."

And I said, "Well, there you are."

I hung up, and that was the end of that. But this experience revealed to me that the media community is also mobbed up with intelligence people who are monitoring our activities.


It was around this time, in early 1994, that a contract worker for the covert shadow group that had a cell within the CIA called me.



He said,

"Look, we really want to see you get this done. Hurry up."

I said, "What do you mean, 'hurry up'?"

He said, "We've been wanting someone to appear who would do this for us; at least a third of the people in this covert control group want to see this matter disclosed, but we can't do it…"

I said, "Well, who the hell do you think I am? I'm just a country doctor here in North Carolina. I barely have a pot to pee in!"

He said, "Well, no, you don't understand. We can only do things behind the scenes."

Eventually he flew in and met with me at the Grove Park Inn, in Asheville. I'll never forget what he said to me during this conversation:

"You know, if you want to get a message to us or to the President, all you need to do is pick up the phone. Don't dial anything—just talk. Or if you prefer, just sit in your home office and talk to the four walls. Because it's all being monitored in real time."

And I said, "Yes, I know."

And he asked, "Well, how do you know that?"

I proceeded to tell him how they had made errors and left their end of the hook or tap open a couple of times. It's happened to my wife Emily, and it's happened to me. Once when I picked up the home phone to make a call, I heard a control room on the line. I could hear people talking instead of a dial tone.



So I asked,

"Who is this?"

Then a woman with a very thick foreign accent but speaking proper English said, "Oh, my God, it's Mr Greer."

And I said, "Doctor Greer to you, bitch."

And hung up!

In those days, I was outraged by these things.



Now, I couldn't care less.

So I told this man, "Yes, I'm sure that's true."

He said, "But, you know, this really does need to happen."

I said, "But why don't you do it?"

And he said, "Oh, no, it's too dangerous."

He said exactly what Laurance Rockefeller had said to me in September, standing out on his deck under the stars.



Competing interests in the cabal


By now you see a theme that keeps repeating: there are extremely well-connected people who are on the inside and who want to see disclosure, but they're terrified of the rogue, violent group.


After this meeting, I got an invitation from a group of rogue insiders to go to Phoenix in the winter of 1994. The meeting was at the Wrigley Mansion—the old, fabulous mansion that the Wrigley chewing gum family had built. It had been taken over by a cell within this covert group. Present were a number of shadowy corporate people. It was a very late night meeting.


A prominent industrialist who was involved with this cell was kept on drugs and was kept under some kind of mind control while this cell milked him of his money. They then used his money to support this particular operation. The methods and motives of this group are beyond dark.



I tell people:

"More than 10 or 15 per cent of what I have seen and learned, you don't want to hear. It's so damned disturbing, most people would commit suicide. And many people have, by the way."

We all gathered around a conference table in the Wrigley mansion. The discussion was about disclosing UFO information and making contact with ETs. One man, during a break, took me out onto a balcony and said:

"You know, we understand you've had this meeting with the CIA director and are providing information to the President, but you need to know that those people don't know anything, and they're never going to know anything. You should understand that, well, you should be talking to people like us. The people dealing with this are people who do a lot of contract work for the government, under 'Work For Others'—'WFO'—contracts. And you should be talking to certain think-tanks. And you should be talking to certain religious orders and certain orders of Jesuit priests who have control over the technology transfer. And you should be talking to..."

He gave me a whole list.


Well, I thought the man had certainly gone "round the bend". But it turned out that every single word he said was true: all of it was confirmed in the following months.


It gets more bizarre. This group or cell within the shadow government was attempting to intercept what we were doing. Remember, now, this is 1994. A former head of army intelligence—a member of that group—had offered me a board seat in 1992. So, things are progressing, and I'm not straying from my course because that's how I am.


So this man said,

"We can really help you."

I asked, "What do you mean?"

He said, "Well, you know, if you want to be supported in this, just let us help you."

I said, "How do you intend to help us?"

"Well, you're a doctor, right? So, you have really good credit. We've checked this out."

And I said, "Oh, yes, the best."

He said,

"Well, we know you have platinum cards and gold cards. Just maximize all of them, every month: $50,000, $100,000, whatever. Get as many of them as you want. And give us the numbers. And since we run all the supercomputers that back up and monitor the banking system of the world, we'll simply erase those account balances to zero, as paid each month."

This is a true story. I'm telling you, every word is true. Put me under any drug; hook me up to any machine. What I'm telling you is true.


I said, "Yes, but then if I did that, you'd own my ass, wouldn't you?" He just had a twinkle in his eye.


I was much too wise to take that bait, tempting as it was. This has been an enormous financial strain and struggle for those of us trying to do this with virtually no funding. But no way was I going to do that!


Then he said,

"I understand you're going to Europe soon to meet with certain people connected to the British royal family"—which I was.

He knew everything I was doing!



And I said,

"Well, that's true."

He said, "It so happens that I'm going to be over there meeting with the Rothschilds and the people who control the Volvo Corporation and some of the other big industrial concerns, because they're working with us."

I said, "Oh, I'm quite sure that's true."

He suggested, "Let's rendezvous while we're in London together."

I said, "Okay, that's fine."

He proceeded to tell me:

"One of my friends, who's really interested in what you're doing, is one of the leaders of the Council on Foreign Relations, Ambassador Maxwell Rabb. Would you like to come to a meeting with him?"

I said, "Well, sure, if he wants to help us."

And then he said, "And also, the Petersons—Mr Peterson was head of the Council on Foreign Relations and his wife was head of the Trilateral Commission—are also working with me, and maybe we can get together with them."

So I said, "When we have our next event, I'll invite them."

He said, "You need to know that all these people are reading what you write and are very interested in all of this."

And I said, "I know that."

Look, everyone puts their pants on one leg at a time. I view all humans as educable. And everyone has a role to play in this whole cosmic drama. But this shadowy contact was essentially, again, inviting me into the inner leading circle of the cabal. While I had no intention of being controlled by them, I have no problem sharing perspective and knowledge with them.


He also said that there were many top people that he worked with in the media and that his group worked with Bono and U2, the Moody Blues, Pink Floyd and various other groups. And they were receiving what I was writing.



And I just said,

"Well, I appreciate that."

He said, "They love what you are saying and doing…"

Later that winter, I went to Europe and met with some very good friends of Prince Charles and Prince Philip. One of Prince Charles's best friends is very supportive of the work we are doing. She wanted to receive some of the materials that I had put together for the CIA director and the President, so she could share them with Prince Charles and others.


But remember, I was squeezing this in between my emergency shifts. I literally, at times, went over to Europe for two or three days at a time and would come back and have to work a 24-hour shift in the emergency department!


In a sense, it was our own little shuttle diplomacy operation. I did meet with this shadowy Phoenix contact in London. He was still in the mode of courting me into his operations. So I would listen and learn—but never capitulate.



This group is the largest Mafiosi and organized criminal enterprise on the planet.


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Title: Re: Is Your Phone Being Tapped?
Post by: Groggy on March 09, 2013, 11:09:19 pm
What level of membership at this site gets you on their radar?

I'm just an observer.

I'd like to say that again, I'm just an observer!  :)
Title: Re: Is Your Phone Being Tapped?
Post by: zorgon on March 10, 2013, 04:50:09 am
What level of membership at this site gets you on their radar?

When you sign up :P

Quote
I'm just an observer.
I'd like to say that again, I'm just an observer!  :)

No worries...THEY advertize here ;)
Title: Re: Is Your Phone Being Tapped?
Post by: robomont on March 10, 2013, 06:53:12 am
On the phone spying.trash in trash out.
even with hard facts.the facts become soft with time.
Anything is hackable.anything.
To the point a ccomputer can become a torch that burns your house down while your out grocery shopping.

As i see it there are only two fone spy networks .fed and county.
County is the one that does most spying.harassing pot smokin kids in parks.usually monitoring text as its cheap and simple.high profit margin.
Title: Re: Is Your Phone Being Tapped?
Post by: robomont on March 10, 2013, 07:05:07 am
Now the deep black is masons in rv s travelling around the nation and staying in parks.always on the move.almost impossible to tie down.
Extreme paranoia begats constant motion.
 
As a pot grower seller i have always used the cat tail technigue.never expose your body.just the tail.leave the tail out and see if some one steps on it.if they do it intensionally they are your enemy.better to have a hurt tail than a hurt body.
one method i use is the trespasser technigue.
I tell strangers that if they intend harm of me they are tresspassing.if they are trespassing then the evidence they used to bust me would be void because they acguired it illegally.
i shoot trespassers.so far i havent had to add fertilizer to my grows.

These are some ideas and theories i have.
Title: Re: Is Your Phone Being Tapped?
Post by: robomont on March 10, 2013, 07:15:36 am
This got me thinkin about the sandyhook /batman fathers.both worked on the program to detect bank fraud.this program probably put a million power spotlight on deep black spending programs.

Every dirty account in the world.better shut up or more crazies will shoot up kids .
Title: Re: Is Your Phone Being Tapped?
Post by: Groggy on March 10, 2013, 07:36:18 am
"it's DOCTOR Greer!" i love that stuff. imagine the conversation she had with her supervisor.

just like Johns quote about Federal Building 7 "imagine the guys sitting around 'WHAT ARE WE GONNA DO?!?!'"

They are so so sure their plans and schemes are infallible i love hearing stories of when they get shaken up.
Title: Re: Is Your Phone Being Tapped?
Post by: sky otter on March 10, 2013, 11:21:36 am


well if they have mine taped they should be very bored by now.. ;D

but
i have a friend who's brother in another state was being monitored for some bad stuff
and she thought that someone had her's taped to see if they communicated

so we had some fun
at odd hours we would dial one another mention his name and give crytic
addresses or words...
then get off the phones and met for coffee and laugh like we were teenagers again

sigh.. i probably shouldn't have told you that... ::)
Title: Re: Is Your Phone Being Tapped?
Post by: stealthyaroura on June 21, 2013, 06:03:41 pm
SO with the current revelations about the NSA and there monitoring I thought A "BUMP" would be appropriate here.
Regarding what Dr Steven Greer wrote about in 2006 (thanks Gigas) he mentions these meetings with the secret shadow cabal that took place in 1993-1994 onward But he created CSETI in 1990 The Disclosure Project was created in 1993 also but he really got the media attention with the press conference of May 2001 with the testimonies.

What i'm wondering is, did Greer set out with good intentions to tell the public the truth in his early days but at some point he Took an offer to good to refuse? thus making him a tool for this powerful cabal or was he in there pockets from day one? Did he have a choice in the matter?

You only have to take a look at his exploits today with the UFO "meet & greet" chanting and the "moth Being" ETC to see IF he did have any credibility at the start it has long gone now.IMO

Or is this yet another ploy to deliberately muddy the waters ? Maybe he is trying to escape the grip of the cabal? It does make me wonder what the guy's real motives are & where he fits in the big picture,what is his role? Disinformation? :-\
Title: Re: Is Your Phone Being Tapped?
Post by: Smilingtree on May 03, 2015, 08:58:52 am
What level of membership at this site gets you on their radar?

When you sign up :
Title: Re: Is Your Phone Being Tapped?
Post by: zorgon on May 03, 2015, 11:09:59 am
Yeah  we have resident spooks :D  But don't worry  they don't bite