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Title: Bad Cops. Discussion Thread
Post by: zorgon on June 11, 2013, 02:51:48 pm
Bad Cops. Whatcha gonna do when they come for YOU

Discussion Thread...

NOTE: This is not a bash the cops thread, but intended to bring to light the bad apples and what happens to them, which in most cases is a slap on the wrist

Please only post verified cases. We don't need to add to the BS stories out there


Title: Re: Bad Cops. Discussion hread
Post by: robomont on June 11, 2013, 03:06:06 pm
i got kinda one.
i got a schizo wife yall know.her meds quick working and the doc wouldnt put her in the nut house.she left the doors open at night with all the lights on snd 90°f outside.those giant florida g mosquitoes were biting me.i hadnt dlept in five days for fear dhe would burn house doen.i took my gun and threatenef her.she started walking fown road.i cslled cops to warn them she was on the loose and what i did to keep from dying.they came snd arrested me.i at first rsn from the twenty eight year old cop snd he fell in the wet grass.then i stopped snd let him arrest me.after i bailed out the next afternoon.my wife was gone.she tried to steal a car to go to hospital.they pr bonded her out.then she snuck into a guys motel room when he went to his csr
Title: Re: Bad Cops. Discussion hread
Post by: Gigas on June 11, 2013, 03:10:08 pm
Where to start.

New york a guy shoots his boss on the street, walks away, two cops are pointed in which direction the guy went, cops come up on guy, guy turns and cops open up killing the guy, a couple of other people standing around and wounding 8 other people. Good shooting.

Cop shoots 7 year old girl point blank in the head on a swat smash the door invasion. He will be charged but with what and how long, will be a coin toss.

Oklahoma cop drives up a driveway to an empty home to ask directions to a location. Cop exits squad, dog from the home runs around cop, cop shoots dog in head and kills it. Cop calls in back up to make some fake story how the dog attacked.

Home owner arrives home and the cops tell her the dog attacked and was killed. She goes reviews the security video footage and clearly sees the cop could have just gotten back in the sqaud but instead pulled his gun and fired.

Cops are told there is video showing what happend. Cops, back peddling,  make a plea not to tell anything of this and they will pay some cash to keep quiet.

Green bay, cops are called to a fight in progress, man with weapon. Cops get there to late and perp is gone, no shots, no weapon other than a bat pulled when perp is confronted by mulitple assailants.

Day later cops catch up to guy with bat driving down town green bay. Cops stop car, order perp out and on the ground, perp does as told but is scared and runs. 4 Cops open up on the running guy firing 33 rounds with 11 hitting perp in the back killing him. The other 22 wild shots hit door ways, buildings and go through a tavern window where an illegal is bussing dishes as the wild shot hits this guy in the chest. Ya he got some serious cash.

I can go on and on with these criminals killing people.

Good cops stay quiet knowing they will either be killed or bullied on the job by other cops and superiors.

FYI, cops are now trained by israeli chertoff training. Nuff said.
Title: Re: Bad Cops. Discussion hread
Post by: robomont on June 11, 2013, 03:14:02 pm
car.
they  then took her to the nut house.
while there they revoked her bond on the car theft.because she didnt show up to hearing.i told the judge and he didnt care.
then they let her out of hospital and she came back to town and went to local hospital for help.
they called the cops and the cops called me to come get her.i told them that she got a warrant and her meds arent working.shes your problem.they took her to jail and called me every week begging me to come bail her out.i said not until the meds work.two months later she wad stable and i bailed her out.
Title: Re: Bad Cops. Discussion hread
Post by: petrus4 on June 11, 2013, 03:17:32 pm
The comment I'm going to make here, is not intended to "bash the police," because while yes, although they are completely responsible for their actions, there are a number of cultural and legal problems here which they are not responsible for.

The first problem is the fact that 9/11 has created an environment where, there are no practical operational limits on a police officer's power.  As far as contemporary cops are concerned, they say jump, and civilians say how high; and if that isn't the way it goes, then in their minds they can kill you, and they very often will get away with it.

I've said before that the only way to challenge the decision or behaviour of a police officer, without potentially getting shot, is to do so in the courtroom.  When you're standing in front of a cop in the street, it's vital to understand that in his mind, he literally has the power of life or death where you are concerned.  Even if this isn't necessarily true in other countries, it is absolutely true in America.

The second problem is cultural.  America is a country now where the degree of reverence that is shown towards police and the military, has gone light years beyond what is remotely healthy.  This reinforces the legal blank cheque that cops have been given due to the GWOT, but it also has an even worse effect of establishing an adversarial relationship between police and civilians.

As far as police officers are concerned, if you are a civilian, then you are the enemy; and you are also a second class citizen, for whom the law applies much more strictly than it does for them.  The police believe adamantly in the proverbial thin blue line, and they also believe that they and civilians stand on opposing sides of it.

My own psychological relationship with the police, is the same as that which I would have with a lion, a white pointer shark, or any other large, fierce, predatory animal.  I do not hate them, but I do regard them as at least potentially being lethally dangerous to me, and I do NOT want to cross paths with them, if I can at all avoid it.  The problem is actually not that I dislike them, as much as I expect them to dislike me.
Title: Re: Bad Cops. Discussion hread
Post by: robomont on June 11, 2013, 03:21:18 pm
then i went to court and they gave me 30days.i go to jail and the next morning the judge lets me out and puts me on six month probation.my wife was conned into a plea with three years probation.
now her meds have worked better but not perfect.copd and doctors didnt do there job and we had to pay for it.

frig THE POLICE !!!!
Title: Re: Bad Cops. Discussion hread
Post by: robomont on June 11, 2013, 03:30:56 pm
augh com on .its so easy to bash them.

i once went to college to be a cop.the classes are taught in a way that creates paranoia.i saw it first hand.

petrus is right about court.its easier to tear them a new one in front of a jury.i actually get off on it.ive been away from them for five years and the last time i spoke to one i straightup told him .every cop that has ever laid a hand on me.no longer is no longer employed at the job they had.
its called the rule in texas.the cops are questioned separately with the rest outside.their stories never match.no matter how hard they try
Title: bad cops
Post by: robomont on June 18, 2013, 08:57:08 pm
i just want to say .i think this thread is brilliant.i would call it insurance.it amazes me that zorgon would start it as usually the older generation doesnt reallize how bad it really is out there.ive had to deal with these bad cops for years.luckily im big enough and smart enough to make life miserable for most who have bothered me.a big thanks goes out to zorgon.
the bong law in florida just proves the prison industry is a real problem in this country.we can all use this thread as evidence if we end up in the wrong situation.again,thankyou zorgon.
Title: Re: bad cops
Post by: ArMaP on June 19, 2013, 05:53:36 am
we can all use this thread as evidence if we end up in the wrong situation.
Just be sure they cannot use it against you. :)
Title: Re: bad cops
Post by: robomont on June 19, 2013, 08:19:05 am
when ive been in court ive used the corrupt cop argument but at the time it wasnt well known.now i could download a list.judges like evidence before making an accusation.if this thread gets big.then i could milk days just pointing these facts out.this demoralizes the police and puts them in their place.plus it adds reasonable doubt to the juries mind think.its all about destroying the police state in the usa.
Title: Re: bad cops
Post by: PLAYSWITHMACHINES on June 19, 2013, 11:12:44 am
In England the good ole Bobbys just beat the carp out of you, then book you for 'resisting arrest'

Works every time ::)
Title: Re: bad cops
Post by: zorgon on June 28, 2013, 06:33:14 pm
.it amazes me that zorgon would start it as usually the older generation doesnt reallize how bad it really is out there

Did a lot at OM and ATS and on the TSA too  I guess I need to do a TSA thread here :D
Title: Re: bad cops
Post by: thorfourwinds on June 28, 2013, 06:43:03 pm
In England the good ole Bobbys just beat the carp out of you, then book you for 'resisting arrest'

Works every time ::)

Greetings:

There is a 'user fee' attached to the word carp.

And you know that.   :P

Please send the 'user fee' to Peggy.   :P


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Title: Re: Bad Cops. Discussion Thread
Post by: burntheships on June 28, 2013, 11:07:11 pm
All on the right track, here is some expert advice!
One of the best, professional presentations ever.


 :D

DontTalktoPolice
A law school professor and former criminal defense attorney tells you
why you should never agree to be interviewed by the police.

[youtube]6wXkI4t7nuc[/youtube]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6wXkI4t7nuc
Title: Re: Bad Cops. Discussion Thread
Post by: Ellirium113 on June 29, 2013, 07:20:30 am
All on the right track, here is some expert advice!
One of the best, professional presentations ever.


 :D

DontTalktoPolice
A law school professor and former criminal defense attorney tells you
why you should never agree to be interviewed by the police.

[youtube]6wXkI4t7nuc[/youtube]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6wXkI4t7nuc

Excellent video...you saved me the trouble of going looking for it as I was thinking on the same page.  ;)

I always enjoy cops struggling to deal with freemen on the land. Watch how some of these panned out. The first one the cop is a bit dumbfounded as to what the hell to do.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8IPct574o4w[/youtube]

Robert Menard on the Magnificent Deception

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ohiyO-IcqG8[/youtube]
Title: Re: Bad Cops. Discussion Thread
Post by: Littleenki on June 29, 2013, 07:32:07 am
All on the right track, here is some expert advice!
One of the best, professional presentations ever.


 :D

DontTalktoPolice
A law school professor and former criminal defense attorney tells you
why you should never agree to be interviewed by the police.

[youtube]6wXkI4t7nuc[/youtube]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6wXkI4t7nuc

Agreed, BTS, this guy lays it out in black and white..great video!

Cheers!
Title: Re: Bad Cops. Discussion Thread
Post by: Amaterasu on June 29, 2013, 02:42:08 pm
From: http://news.yahoo.com/uva-student-jailed-possession-bottled-water-ice-cream-135417476.html

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A University of Virginia student spent a night and good part of the next day in jail after seven plain-clothes agents from the state’s Alcoholic Beverage Control division ambushed her.

The student, 20-year-old Elizabeth Daly, made the mistake of walking to her car with bottled water, cookie dough and ice cream in a dark supermarket parking lot near the UVA campus, reports The Daily Progress.

The seven agents sprung aggressively into action, suspecting that the student was carrying was a 12-pack of beer. She was actually carrying a sky-blue carton of LaCroix sparkling water.

Police admit that one of the high-strung agents vaulted onto the hood of Daly’s car. She contends that one of them also drew a gun.

It’s not clear what about Daly’s appearance gave the six police officers the belief that they had probable cause to confront her en masse.

Daly, along with two roommates who were in the car, did what reasonable, unarmed people usually do when violently pounced upon by seven people. They tried to get away.

More at link.
Title: Re: Bad Cops. Discussion Thread
Post by: zorgon on June 29, 2013, 05:51:34 pm
All on the right track, here is some expert advice!
One of the best, professional presentations ever.
DontTalktoPolice


“You have the right to remain silent. Anything you say can and will be used against you in a court of law. You have a right to an attorney. If you cannot afford an attorney, one will be appointed for you.”

The RED part is more than enough reason to keep your mouth shut :P  Exercise your RIGHT  (while we still have it :P )

Title: Re: Bad Cops. Discussion Thread
Post by: Amaterasu on June 29, 2013, 06:23:00 pm

“You have the right to remain silent. Anything you say can and will be used against you in a court of law. You have a right to an attorney. If you cannot afford an attorney, one will be appointed for you.”

The RED part is more than enough reason to keep your mouth shut :P  Exercise your RIGHT  (while we still have it :P )

Heh.  From: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/06/17/supreme-court-silence_n_3453968.html

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WASHINGTON -- The Supreme Court says prosecutors can use a person's silence against them if it comes before he's told of his right to remain silent.

The 5-4 ruling comes in the case of Genovevo Salinas, who was convicted of a 1992 murder. During police questioning, and before he was arrested or read his Miranda rights, Salinas answered some questions but did not answer when asked if a shotgun he had access to would match up with the murder weapon.

Prosecutors in Texas used his silence on that question in convicting him of murder, saying it helped demonstrate his guilt. Salinas appealed, saying his Fifth Amendment rights to stay silent should have kept lawyers from using his silence against him in court. Texas courts disagreed, saying pre-Miranda silence is not protected by the Constitution.

The high court upheld that decision.
Title: Re: bad cops
Post by: zorgon on July 08, 2013, 05:07:27 pm
There is a 'user fee' attached to the word carp.


Tell it to the judge :P

Today, from our backyard....

THIRD AMENDMENT VIOLATED? NEV. POLICE ALLEGEDLY INVADE FAMILY’S HOME TO USE DURING SWAT CALL, ARREST TWO FOR ‘OBSTRUCTION’ WHEN OWNER REFUSES

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“Henderson police arrested a family for refusing to let officers use their homes as lookouts for a domestic violence investigation of their neighbors,” Reason explains.

The Las Vegas Review Journal provides details on the domestic violence situation police officers were dealing with on that blistering summer day:

Police had gone to the 300 block of Evening Side Avenue, near Horizon Ridge Parkway and the Las Vegas Beltway, for an alleged domestic violence incident at Phillip White Jr.’s home…

White was believed to have barricaded himself and a child inside his home at 363 Evening Side.

SWAT officers closed all entrances and exits to the neighborhood. The standoff lasted hours.

Police began to call people in their homes.

When officers called on Anthony Mitchell and asked if they could “occupy his home in order to gain a ‘tactical advantage’ against the occupant of the neighboring house,” he declined, saying he didn’t want to get involved.

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2013/07/08/third-amendment-violated-nev-police-allegedly-invade-familys-home-to-use-during-swat-call-arrest-two-for-obstruction-when-owner-refuses/?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=story&utm_campaign=Share+Buttons
Title: Re: Bad Cops. Discussion Thread
Post by: starwarp2000 on July 15, 2013, 11:38:10 am
When San Luis Obispo County Sheriff's Deputy Darren Murphy responded to a "shots fired" call in April 2008, he decided en route that he was going to make an arrest.
Those recordings provide a rare, frighteningly revealing, behind-the-scenes perspective of how one local law enforcement agency views  the Fourth Amendment to the U.S. Constitution, and other laws its personnel are sworn to uphold.
Sheriff's spinner Rob Bryn declined to confirm the identities of any of the deputies appearing or heard in the recordings.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6aGD32DENkk[/youtube]

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vt9y9RlMFzA[/youtube]
Title: Re: Bad Cops. Discussion Thread
Post by: zorgon on July 27, 2013, 02:09:19 pm
Maybe THIS is why the Cops are so antsy when they come up to your car...

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Title: Re: Bad Cops. Discussion Thread
Post by: sky otter on July 27, 2013, 06:06:28 pm
UC Davis Pepper Spray Cop Seeks Workers’ Comp



By Russell Goldman

http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/headlines/2013/07/uc-davis-pepper-spray-cop-seeks-workers-comp/

Jul 26, 2013 5:42pmA former University of California, Davis police officer who was fired after pepper spraying a group of students staging a protest in 2011, and whose actions went viral on the internet, is seeking workers’ compensation settlement, claiming the incident left him psychologically injured.

John Pike was fired in July 2012, following an internal affairs investigation regarding his actions at a November protest on the campus.  In a video that spread across the Internet, Pike can be seen aiming pepper spray in the faces of students sitting passively protesting tuition increases and in solidarity with the Occupy movement.

Pike has a settlement hearing scheduled for Aug. 13, according to the Department of Industrial Relations website.

His claim pertains to a “nervous system – psychiatric” injury according to department documents published online.

UC Davis officials confirmed Pike had filed a claim. “The university is required to follow the worker’s compensation process. We are not in agreement with the benefits being claimed,” said Andy Fell, a university spokesman.

Pike reportedly collected a pension for the years he worked at the school, despite being fired. According to a report in the Davis Enterprise, the police lieutenant earned an annual salary of $121,680 before his dismissal. His lawyer Jason Marcus would not comment on the case or indicate the size of the benefit Pike is seeking.

...................................................................





DAVIS, Calif. -- The former police officer who pepper-sprayed students during an Occupy protest at the University of California, Davis is appealing for worker's compensation, claiming he suffered psychiatric injury from the 2011 confrontation.

John Pike has a settlement conference set for Aug. 13 in Sacramento, according to the state Department of Industrial Relations' website.

Pike was fired in July 2012, eight months after a task force investigation found that his action was unwarranted.

Online videos of him and another officer casually dousing demonstrators with pepper spray went viral, sparking outrage at UC Davis leaders. The images became a rallying symbol for the Occupy Wall Street movement.

Hackers posted Pike's information online. He received scores of threats that led an Alameda County Court judge to rule against releasing the names of other officers at the scene.

This week, a state appeals court ruled news organizations are entitled to know the names of a dozen University of California police officers who were interviewed about the use of pepper spray on demonstrators at UC Davis.

The Los Angeles Times and The Sacramento Bee are seeking the officers' identities, which were redacted from two reports on the incident.

In the aftermath, the University of California agreed to pay $1 million to settle a lawsuit filed by demonstrators and the chief of the UC Davis police department resigned.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/07/26/john-pike-workers-comp-pepper-spray_n_3658316.html
Title: Re: Bad Cops. Discussion Thread
Post by: zorgon on July 28, 2013, 01:57:27 am
Not a Cop but... fits in this thread...

Ray Nagin: Former New Orleans Mayor Indicted for Bribery


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New Orleans Mayor Ray Nagin during an interview in his office at City Hall in New Orleans, Dec. 23, 2008. (Alex Brandon/AP Photo)

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By JASON RYAN (@JasonRyanABC) and PIERRE THOMAS (@PierreTABC)
Jan. 18, 2013
Federal prosecutors today announced a 21-count indictment against former New Orleans Mayor Ray Nagin, accused of enriching himself as the city struggled to rebuild in the wake of Hurricane Katrina.

Nagin is accused of using the office of mayor to steer city projects to business associates who, in turn, allegedly paid kickbacks and bribes and flew him on lavish free trips to Hawaii, Jamaica, and Las Vegas.

Nagin was charged with bribery, honest service wire fraud, money laundering, conspiracy and filing false tax returns.

"The defendant C. Ray Nagin, knowingly devised a scheme and artifice to defraud the City of New Orleans and its citizens of his honest services through bribery and a kickback scheme, whereby Mayor Nagin used his public office and his official capacity to provide favorable treatment that benefitted the business and financial interests of individuals providing him with bribery/kickback payoffs in the form of checks, cash, granite inventory, wire transfers personal services and free travel," the indictment said.

The indictment charges that Nagin established a family company in 2005 called Stone Age LLC and allegedly put bribes and kickback checks into the firm's accounts.

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/ray-nagin-orleans-mayor-indicted-bribery/story?id=18253548

Title: Re: Bad Cops. Discussion Thread
Post by: Ellirium113 on July 28, 2013, 07:13:30 am
Nursing home resident dead after confrontation with police

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A 95-year-old resident of an Illinois nursing home died early Saturday, hours after being shocked with a Taser and bean bag rounds in a confrontation with police.

Authorities said John Warna was a resident at Victory Centre of Park Forest, on the 100 block of South Main Street in the south suburb. He was threatening paramedics and staff with a cane and a metal shoehorn when police arrived at the complex, they said.

Police said they struck him with a Taser and bean bag rounds after he threatened officers with a 12-inch butcher knife.

Warna was taken to Advocate Christ Medical Center, where he later died.

A cause of death was not released by Saturday evening.


http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/07/27/19720753-nursing-home-resident-dead-after-confrontation-with-police?lite (http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/07/27/19720753-nursing-home-resident-dead-after-confrontation-with-police?lite)

So what, the old man started slowly shuffling towards them and they had no time to act accordingly? Surprised the never released the hounds on him as well.  >:(

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Title: Re: Bad Cops. Discussion Thread
Post by: spacemaverick on September 17, 2013, 08:01:38 pm
I would like to throw in my own personal story.  Having worked for a Sheriff's Office for 20 years as botha deputy and corrections deputy I have seen many good officers but I have seen some bad ones.  Back in the mid 90's, I was a Field Training Officer for Corrections Deputies.  We were working maximum security.  My trainee was working the control room that controlled all the doors.  Inside a Plexiglas cell the Officer-in-charge of the unit had a fully restrained inmate.  His hands and his legs were restrained by a special set-up but he could move around on the mattress on the floor.  This was an inmate that had mental issues.  He could be no threat to anyone the way he was restrained.  We had to make periodic checks on everyone every 15 minutes in these cells and allow access to restroom facilities.  Well 2 officers came in and didn't want to be bothered by any of his questions or anything else.  Both kicked at him and one connected with him on the mattress.  The man was defenseless and was restrained for our safety.  Long story short I objected and turned them in.  The next 18 months were pure hell with 50% of my peers for me and 50% against me.  It went to an internal investigation.  My trainee lied and so did the other two denying that it happened.  The inmates would not say anything for fear of retribution.  Naturally I came out on the short end of the stick.  I stayed with the department, gave up my position as a trainer for awhile.

Someone became our new commander and they had a need for a trainer.  I was schooled in that area and had the experience.  I put in my memo and had to explain why I gave it up the first time and the issues involved.  I told the new commander that I would do the same thing all over again.  I received a call from the new commander asking me which shift I would like to have as a trainer.  I returned to my love of teaching others.  This did have repercussions though.  Later on when I went to apply for a job on road patrol, a friend of the officer (Major) that has done the internal investigation had passed onto another Major (who was his friend) that I should not be hired.  We had a central police testing for all the departments who handled everything regarding hiring.  My file was buried never to be seen again.

It was then I realized what a pile of political crap I had gotten into.  One of the things I learned was when a system is complex, you can use their own rules and procedures against them.  I survived and eventually ending up writing their training programs and worked up to the rank of Lieutenant in the end.

The things I have seen out on the street and in that jail by a few bad apples made the good ones look bad.  It's hard to weed out bad apples because the system doesn't make it easy.  Most of the time you have to let karma take care of it.  The two people involved went on to retire just like I did.  It makes it even harder when you have some leadership that is the same way.  When I left it was getting worse.  There are still good officers out there but things get worse everyday.  Our academies are starting to spew out officers that do not protect and serve but just enforce.

Hope I have not bored you.  Don't forget there are good ones out there. The politics in there was atrocious but that is another subject.
Title: Re: Bad Cops. Discussion Thread
Post by: Amaterasu on September 17, 2013, 08:47:51 pm
Yes. there are good apples.  Hopefully enough.
Title: Re: Bad Cops. Discussion Thread
Post by: burntheships on September 17, 2013, 08:56:44 pm
  Don't forget there are good ones out there.

SM,

Yes, there are and thanks for your story. Bad apples
rot and ruin a bushel, my grandma said.

I say thanks to those like you who have served in honesty,
acting with dignity for the better. Some of the criminals these
days are enough to make anyone lose their cool, it is a fine
line to walk.
Title: Re: Bad Cops. Discussion Thread
Post by: Amaterasu on September 17, 2013, 09:15:02 pm
Let Us keep in mind that this divide - criminals and enforcers - has been fomented.  It is part of a plan.

They WANT Us to rise up, get violent, and I'm amazed that the only violence (beyond the norm) I see is the false flags and war mongering.  We, the People, are being mighty restrained in that.

And though some call for the death of These and the destruction of Those...  The Ones who cause the drama turn out to be paid inciters; NOT Those who protest.  (Seems there is some evidence that protesting legally means "I don't like it but will accept it..."  I prefer "rebuke."  No ambiguity.)

It's really quite lovely to see the degree that peaceful behavior is emerging.
Title: Re: Bad Cops. Discussion Thread
Post by: zorgon on December 13, 2014, 12:34:22 pm
Musician Arrested In NYC Subway After Cop Reads Out Loud Exact Statute That Permits Him To Play

One of NYPD's finest arrests a man for playing in the subway after he recites the law word for word that allows him to perform for donations. He continues to sing as he is being handcuffed. A "frig the police" chant subsequently follows.

[youtube]PEBZReXChoA[/youtube]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PEBZReXChoA


The LAW

Section 1050.6c
Except as expressly permitted in this subdivision, no person shall engage in any nontransit uses upon any facility or conveyance. Nontransit uses are noncommercial activities that are not directly related to the use of a facility or conveyance for transportation. The following nontransit uses are permitted by the Authority, provided they do not impede transit activities and they are conducted in accordance with these rules: public speaking; campaigning; leafletting or distribution of written noncommercial materials; activities intended to encourage and facilitate voter registration; artistic performances, including the acceptance of donations.


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"I don't care if I am WRONG, I am a Cop so I will arrest you anyway"

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Title: Re: Bad Cops. Discussion Thread
Post by: Shasta56 on December 13, 2014, 01:41:12 pm
A security guard at an Aurora, CO hospital punched a restrained patient in the face.  He was allowed to keep his job.   Action against the security guard who reported the incident to his supervisor is being considered.   The director of the observation unit also wants patient belongings of every patient in that unit confiscated. 

It's all up for review by the ethics committee,  which will hopefully do the right thing.

Shasta
Title: Re: Bad Cops. Discussion Thread
Post by: ArMaP on December 13, 2014, 02:03:04 pm
Everything is OK, apparently that police officer will be "retrained".  ::)

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xGvrLoTmSa8[/youtube]
Title: Re: Bad Cops. Discussion Thread
Post by: zorgon on January 01, 2015, 11:04:26 pm
Like the part where the woman says "so I am not getting a ticket?"

Shock Factor  LOL we just are so used to them hassling us for 1 mile over the limit :P

But look at THIS  Seems the turmoil is starting th swing the pendulum...

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(https://craigwwright.files.wordpress.com/2012/04/a1-a-government-tryanny.jpg)
Title: Re: Bad Cops. Discussion Thread
Post by: zorgon on January 01, 2015, 11:05:44 pm
And main stream news is now starting to report Cops that do Evil Deeds getting charged instead of paid leave for misconduct..

Maybe 2015 will see a new trend  We can hope

Just going to drop the headlines

New York City cops to be charged for beating Brooklyn teenager: sources
http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/nyc-crime/nyc-cops-charged-beating-teen-sources-article-1.1999240
http://nypost.com/2014/11/04/cops-indicted-for-hitting-unarmed-teen-in-face-with-gun/

Bloomfield cops indicted after dashboard video shows them hitting suspect
http://www.nj.com/essex/index.ssf/2014/02/bloomfield_cops_face_misconduct_charges_after_second_dashboard_video_surfaces.html

South Carolina indicted three white cops in four months, and it’s probably not a coincidence
http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-nation/wp/2014/12/05/south-carolina-indicted-three-white-cops-in-four-months-and-its-probably-not-a-coincidence/
Title: Re: bad cops
Post by: Glaucon on January 02, 2015, 03:46:33 pm
judges like evidence before making an accusation.

Just to be clear, judges don't make acusations.
Title: Re: Bad Cops. Discussion Thread
Post by: Glaucon on January 02, 2015, 03:48:42 pm
A security guard at an Aurora, CO hospital punched a restrained patient in the face.  He was allowed to keep his job.   Action against the security guard who reported the incident to his supervisor is being considered.   The director of the observation unit also wants patient belongings of every patient in that unit confiscated. 

It's all up for review by the ethics committee,  which will hopefully do the right thing.

Shasta
Yikes
Title: Re: Bad Cops. Discussion Thread
Post by: spacemaverick on January 02, 2015, 05:18:03 pm
And main stream news is now starting to report Cops that do Evil Deeds getting charged instead of paid leave for misconduct..

Maybe 2015 will see a new trend  We can hope

Just going to drop the headlines

New York City cops to be charged for beating Brooklyn teenager: sources
http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/nyc-crime/nyc-cops-charged-beating-teen-sources-article-1.1999240
http://nypost.com/2014/11/04/cops-indicted-for-hitting-unarmed-teen-in-face-with-gun/

Bloomfield cops indicted after dashboard video shows them hitting suspect
http://www.nj.com/essex/index.ssf/2014/02/bloomfield_cops_face_misconduct_charges_after_second_dashboard_video_surfaces.html

South Carolina indicted three white cops in four months, and it’s probably not a coincidence
http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-nation/wp/2014/12/05/south-carolina-indicted-three-white-cops-in-four-months-and-its-probably-not-a-coincidence/

I hope this is a new trend.  If the evidence is there it should be done.
Title: Re: Bad Cops. Discussion Thread
Post by: zorgon on January 02, 2015, 07:52:52 pm
Everything is OK, apparently that police officer will be "retrained".  ::)

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xGvrLoTmSa8[/youtube]

AWESOME!!!!  This is what I want to see  the FOLLOWUPS of how it turns out.  So many times we never see the outcome.  Seems internet viral protests DO help

 8)
Title: Re: Bad Cops. Discussion Thread
Post by: zorgon on January 02, 2015, 08:06:58 pm
I hope this is a new trend.  If the evidence is there it should be done.

It does appear that way. Seems for once social media is actually making a difference. And we have all those new police shows that are focusing more and more about busting bad cops like the new one with Tom Selleck - BLUE BLOODS

And then there is THIS

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Double up on real crime? Stop harassing the little people for stupid sh!t?  WOW what a concept eh?

 ;D
Title: Re: Bad Cops. Discussion Thread
Post by: zorgon on January 02, 2015, 08:10:13 pm
A security guard at an Aurora, CO hospital punched a restrained patient in the face.

Is that your town?  This just popped up but I cannot find any details on the web  There is a CBC logo on the image so it should be real news

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Title: Re: Bad Cops. Discussion Thread
Post by: zorgon on January 02, 2015, 08:17:38 pm
Found THIS though  I bet its the real story   

25 people indicted in gang bust

CENTENNIAL –9NEWS has confirmed the Arapahoe County District Attorney's Office has indicted more than two dozen people associated with a metro-wide gang on 73 charges including first-degree attempted murder, aggravated robbery, third-degree assault, theft, and witness intimidation. Two of those indicted are juveniles.

Sources say 24 of the suspects were arrested in early morning raids in Aurora and Denver Wednesday, involving both the Aurora Police Department and Denver police officers. One person indicted, Roderick Penny, 18 of Aurora, remains at large.

Video Here no embed code
http://www.9news.com/story/news/local/investigations/2014/10/22/25-people-arrested-in-gang-bust/17748083/
Title: Re: Bad Cops. Discussion Thread
Post by: Shasta56 on January 04, 2015, 04:37:40 pm
I previously mentioned a hospital security guard punching a restrained patient.   The guard is still employed.   My son-in-law was threatened with disciplinary action for getting bitten by a patient.   A pharmacist that my daughter knows,  was pulled over for driving through Kansas while black.

Shasta
Title: Re: Bad Cops. Discussion Thread
Post by: space otter on January 05, 2015, 08:38:18 am



here’s where it’s going to get scary imo..
there doesn't have to be bad cops for this to be scary

when all the small police departments are connected state and country wide

centralized police department

after reading this..which is local to me news (you can ignore..only copied  for background)
I can see the future..centralize police..and that would be close to a military state without being declared one
..not so much that they would have more info but that the wrong info could be used so readily....

and we already know that erasing something on line is impossible already..thoughts of mccathy swim thur my brain

I am not a criminal and am a very law abiding citizen but thoughts of a centralized police  scares the beegeebers outta me




Barring a missing child, a murder investigation or another high profile crime, police departments don't always tell the public about crimes occurring in their communities. Sometimes, they lack the means to get word out to the public effectively.

“This is one of the prices we pay for 18,000 police departments in the United States,” said Wesley G. Skogan, professor of political science at Northwestern University.

For life-threatening incidents, such as a missing person, small police departments often communicate readily, according to Skogan.

But such communication often is lacking for routine cases.

If there was a centralized police department, “identification of crime patterns would be much more routine,” he said.
























Police challenged in circulating information on Alle-Kiski crime spree

Read more: http://triblive.com/neighborhoods/yourallekiskivalley/yourallekiskivalleymore/7386085-74/police-residents-township#ixzz3NxdkSjBQ
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By Mary Ann Thomas
Sunday, Jan. 4, 2015, 12:01 a.m.



A Lower Burrell resident watched incredulously as a young man pulled laptop computers and other electronics from a bank of weeds across the street from his house.

That tip from a private citizen led police to crack a car break-in spree that stung more than 100 victims in 10 communities in August and September. Four suspects are awaiting their trials sometime in 2015 in Westmoreland County Court.

How did a handful of allegedly drug-addled thieves outwit residents and police for two months before a resident's tip nabbed them?

A Valley News Dispatch examination of the case found:

• A lack of communication among police departments.

• Insufficient communication among the police, media outlets and the public.

• People leaving valuables in plain sight in unlocked vehicles.

• The ability for thieves to sell stolen items at legitimate businesses that can take only their identifying information at the time of purchase.

VND interviews of area police chiefs found spotty crime-alert communications from police to residents.

The car break-in spree was allegedly pulled off by several heroin addicts looking for items that could be converted to quick cash.

They cased unlocked vehicles in unsuspecting “safe” neighborhoods in Lower Burrell; Washington, Allegheny, Kiski, Upper Burrell and Bell townships; and West Leechburg, Plum, Oklahoma and Leechburg boroughs.

Awaiting charges are four area residents who allegedly stole hundreds of items: Michael B. Guzzi, 28, of Washington Township; his sister, Kristy Sue Guzzi, 30; and her boyfriend, Alexander Steven Molnar, 29, both of 201 Floral Ave., Leechburg; and Ryan Seybert, 24, of Hulton Road, Allegheny Township.

The stolen items included wallets and purses containing cash and credit cards, GPS units, a high-powered rifle, nine handguns, six sets of golf clubs, four laptop computers, iPods, cell phones and high-end sunglasses.

And the loot was easy to steal: Almost every victim left the vehicle unlocked in the driveways.

Washington Township Chief Scott Slagle said he was most concerned about the stolen forearms.

“Those guns aren't going to upstanding people,” said Slagle, who had seven handguns stolen in his township. “They are guns that will be used in crimes later down the road.

One suspect allegedly traded a gun for heroin. Kristy Guzzi allegedly told police she tried to sell a handgun in New Kensington, but the “buyer” instead stole it from her.

Who knew?

Many residents didn't know that they were targets.

Barring a missing child, a murder investigation or another high profile crime, police departments don't always tell the public about crimes occurring in their communities. Sometimes, they lack the means to get word out to the public effectively.

“This is one of the prices we pay for 18,000 police departments in the United States,” said Wesley G. Skogan, professor of political science at Northwestern University.

For life-threatening incidents, such as a missing person, small police departments often communicate readily, according to Skogan.

But such communication often is lacking for routine cases.

If there was a centralized police department, “identification of crime patterns would be much more routine,” he said.

Lower Burrell Chief Tim Weitzel said, “As much as I hate to say it, but with the workload, it is up to the municipalities to decide what they have to investigate.”

Violent crimes and domestic threats command immediate attention.

“Then you get a break, like someone in Lower Burrell saw one of the suspects,” he said. “You have to prioritize, you have to hit the local pawn shops and use police resources to go to a second-hand store in Monroeville or Greensburg.”

‘We tried to tell them'

Leechburg and Washington Township police put out Facebook alerts, telling residents of the car break-ins and pleading with them to keep their cars locked.

“When we talked to the people involved, the suspects said that they didn't do good in some neighborhoods because the bulk of the cars were locked,” Lower Burrell Detective Lt. Robert Galvanek said.

Not all of the residents knew they'd been victimized. In some cases, police powered up GPS units, found the owners' addresses and alerted residents that their unit had been stolen, according to Weitzel.

“Then some people don't even take the time to report the theft,” Weitzel said. “They just chalked it up to a loss.”

Washington Township posted information about the break-ins on the township's Facebook page on Aug. 14 and had 2,154 hits. They re-posted it on Sept. 16 and got another 7,884 hits.

Leechburg warned residents on its Facebook page as well, and the car break-in post “went around the Internet like wildfire,” said Leechburg Mayor Shawn Lerch.

But not everybody noticed and not all methods of communications work as well and as fast as police would like.

Even when given the chance to receive police alerts, most residents don't bite.

Allegheny Township tried, unsuccessfully, to get residents to go online and sign up for Nixle, which would provide email and text alerts from police.

Out of Allegheny Township's population of about 8,200, only about 140 signed up for Nixle.

North Huntingdon has the same problem: only about 3,000 residents out of an estimated 30,000 signed up for Nixle, according to Chief Andrew Lisiecki.

When a car break-in crime spree, which Lisiecki calls “car shopping,” broke out there and surrounding communities in the summer, police used Nixle but also issued press releases, trying to get media coverage to alert residents.

“We try to get the media to help us, but unfortunately ‘car shopping' doesn't take priority over homicides and rapes,” Lisiecki said.

But North Huntingdon also had great success recently in reaching out through traditional media. The township experienced several car entries the week before Christmas, including one in which the thieves used garage door openers to burglarize homes.

The department issued a news release about the case with a warning to residents and received coverage in several newspapers and on all three Pittsburgh television stations.

Allegheny Township Chief John Fontaine said that the large majority of break-ins were in housing plans where there were easy opportunities for the thieves to look for unlocked cars on foot.

“We were sending out Nixle reports and getting messages into the communities,” he said. “We increased housing plan patrols at night, we had officers spending a lot of time in those areas looking for suspicious activity. We were out there.”

The number of unlocked cars in the spree was alarming — but not surprising — to local police chiefs.

“I can tell you for a fact that some people that I told specifically to make sure their vehicles were locked, they went unlocked and got broken into,” said Washington Township's Slagle. “They called me and they were embarrassed.”

Washington Township had almost 30 car entries in a five-week period.

“People believe that they are in the country and things like that don't happen out here — and the suspects prey on that mentality,” he said.

Ease of the crime, getting caught

A Lower Burrell resident, who has chosen to remain anonymous, followed one of the suspects — reportedly Michael Guzzi — and jotted down his license plate number. That's when Westmoreland County Detective John Clark and Lower Burrell police put together the pieces.

Police checked the resale shops and talked to neighboring police departments to investigate the reach of the crimes.

“By the time we got it, the bulk of the crimes had been committed,” said Lower Burrell's Galvanek.

The stolen items can be relatively easy to find as many are sold to second-hand shops. Such sales require a seller's identification, which is recorded by the store.

One resale shop that bought numerous items from the ring was Tradeyourstuff4cash on Fourth Avenue in Tarentum.

There was no response from the owner for repeated requests for an interview.

The suspects allegedly sold a number of golf club sets at Play It Again Sports in Greensburg, which offers used sports equipment.

“There are some people that look a little shaky,” said Jeff Edgar, owner of Play It Again Sports. “But as long as long as we have their information, we can't accuse of them of something.”

The store wrote up to about $1,000 checks for golf clubs in question. With police taking the stolen clubs to return to the victims, the store will likely lose out on $600 to $700, according to Edgar.

“This doesn't happen often,” he said, noting that golf clubs are high-ticket items. “There's a market for it and they know that. A lot of times, it's a family member selling golf clubs.”

Edgar stressed that people need to file a police report in order for police to alert them to watch for stolen items.

Mary Ann Thomas is a staff writer for Trib Total Media.



Title: Re: Bad Cops. Discussion Thread
Post by: zorgon on January 13, 2015, 01:58:09 am
Remember a while back those New Mexico cops that killed a homeless man for ILLEGAL CAMPING?

APD officers to face criminal charges for first time

ALBUQUERQUE (KRQE) – District Attorney Kari Brandenburg plans to file murder charges on Monday against the two Albuquerque police officers who shot James Boyd in the Sandia Foothills last March, according to multiple sources with firsthand knowledge of her decision.

It will mark the first time an APD officer has faced criminal charges for shooting someone in the line of duty in New Mexico’s largest city. APD has one of the highest rates of police shootings in the country, and Boyd’s death was the result of the most controversial in a series of 27 fatal shootings here since 2010.



http://krqe.com/2015/01/11/charges-to-be-filed-monday-against-apd-officers-in-boyd-shooting/
Title: Re: Bad Cops. Discussion Thread
Post by: Amaterasu on January 18, 2015, 09:35:41 am
So...  Given the pristine state of the "dead" homeless man's white jacket after a headshot from a distance, along with other shots to the back...  We might conclude that They are filing these charges as more of the show.  Same in Boston, same in all the other psyops.  Ferguson, Garner. Paris, and on and on.
Title: Re: Bad Cops. Discussion Thread
Post by: Glaucon on January 21, 2015, 04:53:56 pm
psyopspsyopspsyopspsyopspsyopspsyopspsyopspsyopspsyopspsyopspsyopspsyopspsyopseverythingmustbeapsyopspsyopspsyopspsyopspsyopspsyopspsyops
Title: Re: Bad Cops. Discussion Thread
Post by: Shasta56 on January 21, 2015, 09:14:13 pm
Is that your town?  This just popped up but I cannot find any details on the web  There is a CBC logo on the image so it should be real news

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Yep.  My town.  Same city as the theater shooting.   I think the second story is the real deal.   Here's a bit of trivia.   My cousin Tom used to be the Chief of Police in Aurora, back about 30 years ago.  Overall, I have found Aurora P.D. to be friendlier than Denver P.D.  Although I haven't had to call Aurora to respond to my being shot at.  Maybe they'd be jerks about that just like Denver was.

Shasta
Title: Re: Bad Cops. Discussion Thread
Post by: Sinny on January 22, 2015, 02:47:39 am
psyopspsyopspsyopspsyopspsyopspsyopspsyopspsyopspsyopspsyopspsyopspsyopspsyopseverythingmustbeapsyopspsyopspsyopspsyopspsyopspsyopspsyops

How did you get your text to go across the screen like that? lol
Title: Re: Bad Cops. Discussion Thread
Post by: Shasta56 on January 22, 2015, 06:49:04 pm
Breaking news:  Aurora SWAT is raiding the house just up the street from my daughter.   Don't know if it's a meth lab or a chop shop or both,  but apparently the cops listened when my son-in-law reported suspicious activities.   There are advantages to working hospital security.   So I guess this really isn't in the bad cop realm.  This was just a convenient place to post it.

Shasta
Title: Re: Bad Cops. Discussion Thread
Post by: zorgon on January 23, 2015, 02:19:13 pm
Good cop stories are allowed LOL  We had the swat tanks at a house behind us A rental that had gangs move in.  Driveby shooting last Halloween (2013)  and the next day a swat tank with cannon pointed at the front door

End result  neighborhood is gang free again...