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Re: The Santa Conspiracy
« Reply #15 on: December 25, 2012, 02:25:38 pm »
Skeptics and Debunkers have long made the case that because there is no land at  the true north pole, that Santa could not be real.  And as the magenetic North Pole is constantly moving that won't help us. So let's have a look at this...

The REAL Santa Conspiracy

Navy proves there is no Santa at the TRUE North Pole


Nick at the North Pole. Credit: Seaice.org.uk/

As you can see the sub came right up through the ice at the pole. Now naturally the Barber Pole is also not really there and you must bring your own for the Photo Op... I suppose it could be argued that there is no way to be sure that they are REALLY at the True North Pole, but for now, we will take their word for it.

SOURCE: http://www.seaice.org.uk/research/tireless2004.html

Arctic Submarine Laboratory


This is all part of the conspiracy and the cover up. We KNOW there is no actual land mass under the ice at the north pole... so on those years when the Arctic Ice melts, Santa would be in a LOT of deep water... Same goes for the Magnetic North Pole, it too is over water currently and as it moves, a permanent base at Magnetic North would not remain such for very long

Here is a picture in Google Earth of the area around True North...



As we can see... nothing but water! And with Global warming causing the Arctic Ice to melt, Santa and the elves would need to learn to tread water...


Lewis Gordon diving into the icy Arctic water (Image courtesy of Xinhuanet)

The 37-year-old British took 18 minutes and 50 seconds to complete a 1km swim in -1.8°C water on July 15, 2007. He undertook the swim to raise awareness about the effects of climate change on the Arctic.


Credit: Diesel: Global Warming, North Pole


If you don't believe me, go see for yourself

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Re: The Santa Conspiracy
« Reply #16 on: December 25, 2012, 02:37:41 pm »
Okay... so what is going on then? If he is real as we just proved in this report, then where IS that Secret Base really hidden?

Well, as with a lot of other government bases and secrets, it is HIDDEN IN PLAIN SIGHT

Greeneyedleo has already pointed it out to us, as she WAS THERE and took pictures. Here is the front gate. Even had a postal code number 99705


Credit: Greeneyedleo
North Pole Alaska
+64° 45' 1.88", -147° 22' 46.01"


Sure, ANYONE can hang a sign and say anything they want, but...

The USPS lists this as the return address for Santa...
North Pole Christmas Cancellation
Postmaster
5400 Mail Trail
Fairbanks AK 99709-9998

And on the photo Greeneyedleo  took of Santas' House we find this address...
101 St. Nicholas Drive
North pole Alsaka
99705

So Santa, his workshop, the elves and the Reindeer NEVER lived at the TRUE North Pole, but North Pole Alaska.

REMEMBER The USPS Press Release?

Press Release from the USPS
http://www.usps.com/communications/news/press/2004/pr04_086.htm

Return mail will bear the cancellation from here..

North Pole Christmas Cancellation
Postmaster
5400 Mail Trail
Fairbanks AK 99709-9998

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Originally posted by greeneyedleo ATS post ID 5436978



I lived near North Pole, Alaska.

I know for sure Santa is real.  I've seen him myself at his home in North Pole, along with his reindeers.
Seriously.   ;D

My very own pictures from North Pole.   ;D






Now lets examine this a bit more...

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Re: The Santa Conspiracy
« Reply #17 on: December 25, 2012, 02:53:17 pm »
Originally posted by zorgon ATS Post ID 5447236

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Originally posted by greeneyedleo
But im sorry to report, no pretty mushrooms will be included - those are reserved for Santa himself, so I have learned  here.

You know it just dawns on me why all the governments are banning us from getting any, and making their use illegal...

They need to keep the lid on the secret... I wonder if the US Government has any Reindeer on the payroll?

Hmmmm... lemme see...

Well I'll be hornswaggled   It seems they do indeed... and have had them for a very long time

The Manitoban was chartered from the company early in 1898 for an unusual voyage. She sailed from Alten (Norway) for New York on February 4 with 537 reindeer, 418 reindeer sleds, 511 sets of harness, 3, 500 bags of moss for  feeding the animals, together with herders, drivers and their families numbering in all 113 people. After proceeding by rail from New York to Seattle, the entire company embarked for Alaska to start the U.S. Government's reindeer herd.

http://www.merchantnavyofficers.com/all.html

537 reindeer... to START the herd? What the dickens does the US Government need a herd of Reindeer and Sleds for?

NOW it makes perfect sense why they hoard all those shrooms

We need to call the Pentagon and get to the bottom of this  >:(

 DAGNABBIT we are on to something now...
                                             

Alaska reindeer - Kotsebue herd no. 2. George A. Parks. Photographs, 1911-1933. ASL-PCA-240


Corralled reindeer at Mekoryuk on Nunivak Island Reindeer herd in U.S. Government Reindeer Project corral at Mekoryuk, Nunivak Island, Alaska, with coastline in background. From information with photo: [Photo used in article entitled] "Nunivak Island"

So they brought them in through New York in 1896 and by 1911-1933 we have full herds run by the Government... What are they up to?

Related Links:
Alaska History Nuggets: Reindeer Herding
Alaska Reindeer History
Video:  20,000 head today... peak was 640,000 in the thirties

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Re: The Santa Conspiracy
« Reply #18 on: December 25, 2012, 02:56:06 pm »
Posted by greeneyedleo

 reply to post by zorgon

There is a big reindeer farm next to University of Alaska, Fairbanks... and I believe there is some "research" that takes place at UAF


Originally posted by zorgon

WOW
Hey thanks for the tip space lady!
Man those Air Force guys have been dipping into those shrooms...
                                                                     

Credit: US Air Force

Originally posted by greeneyedleo
Oh my god.  It is VERY hard to respond with a well thought out response for that, that contributes to this thread.



Either that is a result of cultivating mushrooms or those vaccines have something in them we are not aware of.

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Re: The Santa Conspiracy
« Reply #19 on: December 25, 2012, 03:00:56 pm »
We have shown here that as early as 1898 the US Government has supported Santa and created a Reindeer division just outside Fairbanks, Alaska. In the 30's the Reindeer herds reached 640, 000 head, Now its closer to 20,000 on average. Pictures of Santa's Village show tall pine trees, someting we see easily in North Pole, Alaska, but not at the True North Pole.

So all evidence so far points to North Pole. Alaska as the the TRUE location of Santa's Secret Base...

Now lets look at the area on Google Earth and see what else we see in the area...



WOW... Seems like the MECCA of US Military Might...

Radar Domes:
FAIRBANKS PEDRO Radar Dome/AK, PAPD, FRBNKS/PEDRO DOM
ESTER Dome

Poker Flats Research Range:
  Rocket launchers at Poker Flat Research Range
  Chatanika, Incoherent Scatter Facilty - The New HAARP

Military Bases Surround North Pole:
   Fort Wainwright AAF with an Iron Cross on the runway
   Eielson Air Force Base
   Clear Air Force Base

Nike Missile Launch Sites Surround North Pole:
   LOVE Nike Missile Launch Site
   PETER Nike Missile Launch Site
   MIKE Nike Missile Launch Site
   JIG Nike Missile Launch Site

University of Alaska:
   Current HAARP Project

THIS is where Santa lives...  Secret Base at North Pole, Alaska, right smack dab in the middle of the USA's most 'secret' area with HAARP, Poker Flats and who knows what else is hidden beneath the facades

A final look at the North Pole
{just because its a cool painting...}


The image is a work by artist Inga Nielsen
The image, called "Hideaway" can be viewed on the artist's website.
It was also featured on NASA Astronomy Picture of the Day

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Re: The Santa Conspiracy
« Reply #20 on: December 25, 2012, 03:08:32 pm »
NORAD Tracks Santa Annually

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Originally posted by AccessDenied ATS Post ID 5434759
NORAD tracks Santa every year too!
Official site to countdown:
http://www.noradsanta.org/en/home.html

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Originally posted by SpacePunk ATS Post ID 5437078
Does NORAD still manage to track Santa with their radar these days?

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Originally posted by Greeneyedleo
Yep!
http://www.noradsanta.org/

Originally posted by zorgon

Nice hat Leo  HEY where's my Christmas Present

I was about to post that but with NORAD  (and who better to know) that makes 5 official government agencies

And here is a better one pointing to NORAD

Pentagon TV  ;D
http://www.dodvclips.mil/?fr_story Norad 2008







Now the skeptics face a dilemma. They either have to admit that Santa is REAL

OR they have to tell us that all these government agencies spending tax dollars on Santa tracking etc. are LYING

Which will it be?


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Re: The Santa Conspiracy
« Reply #21 on: December 25, 2012, 03:10:53 pm »
Okay there you have it...

SANTA IS REAL vetted by several Government Agencies... I have some more to add, but will unlock the thread at this point for comment.

Happy Holidays everyone....

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Re: The Santa Conspiracy
« Reply #22 on: December 25, 2012, 03:13:44 pm »
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Originally posted by squiz ATS Post ID 5437107

Yep, the amanita is toxic, there are many different types all over the world and are prepared differently accordingly. Generally drying them is the way to go. The urine of the ingester can be drunk as the psychedelic compounds can pass through the body several times. Not that I'm into that sort of thing.

The Santa clause story, I believe is based mainly on the Siberian shaman.

The shaman would gather the amanita for the winter solstice celebration, quite often he'd have to compete for the amanita with the reindeer, who had been known to attack the shaman to get to the mushrooms first. (the shaman would also sometimes drink the urine of the intoxicated reindeer).

While picking he'd place the mushrooms in the tree to begin drying them. (decorations).

When returning home, quite often his cabin would be snowed in and would have to climb in through the chimney with his sack of Christmas goodies.

Then to hang the mushrooms in sacks near the fire to continue drying them for safe consumption. (Christmas stockings).

Oh yeah Christianity is based partly on a pagan mushroom cult. Why do you think all those saints had visions? and why the Archbishops dress up like the amanita? Why the pope sports a pine cone on his staff? and the large pine cone sculpture at the vatican? not because of the pineal gland as some have recently suggested, but because the amanita grew under the conifer tree.


Lord of the Magical plants - The Paris Eadwine Psalter, c. 1150 CE.

Originally posted by Darlin ATS Post ID 5437154

The psychedelic secrets of Santa Claus

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Re: The Santa Conspiracy
« Reply #23 on: December 25, 2012, 03:15:07 pm »
Originally posted by manticore ATS Post ID 5437154

Here's more proof!



Credit: manticore


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Re: The Santa Conspiracy
« Reply #24 on: December 25, 2012, 03:16:38 pm »
Originally posted by Ghost147
I'm trying to come up with a conclusion that your joking, but I've seen some pretty dumb people on this forum before.


Originally posted by zorgon

I only have one appropriate response to that...



There is one in every crowd...

 :o

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Re: The Santa Conspiracy
« Reply #25 on: December 25, 2012, 03:17:57 pm »
Oregon Zoo Video News Release
Scientific Theory and Flying Reindeer


The Oregon Zoo's video of flying reindeer and their history, also explains why reindeer can or can not fly.

[youtube]4G58Uyc33do[/youtube]

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Re: The Santa Conspiracy
« Reply #26 on: December 25, 2012, 03:19:49 pm »
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Posted by silo13 ATS Post ID 5437500

Coke and Santa...
The plot thickens...

Santa Lore

Most people can agree on what Santa Claus looks like -- jolly, with a red suit and a white beard. But he did not always look that way, and Coca-Cola® advertising actually helped shape this modern-day image of Santa.

2006 marked the 75th anniversary of the famous Coca-Cola Santa Claus. Starting in 1931, magazine ads for Coca-Cola featured St. Nick as a kind, jolly man in a red suit. Because magazines were so widely viewed, and because this image of Santa appeared for more than three decades, the image of Santa most people have today is largely based on our advertising


http://www.thecoca-colacompany.com/heritage/cokelore_santa.html

And there's nooooo way Coke would use a subject for advertise if he isn't 100% true - right?

The Real Thing ---> Santa

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Re: The Santa Conspiracy
« Reply #27 on: December 25, 2012, 03:21:15 pm »
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Originally posted by Deson ATS Post ID 5443644

Personally, I've always thought of Santa as being only a Persian cat and a eye patch away from being a Bond Villain.  Here's why:

1) Secret base located in a inaccessible location.

2) Base cannot be found using the latest in technology.

3) Ultra sophisticated spy network revealing who was naughty or nice.

4) Spy network cannot be spoofed.

5) Lots of  minions working for him,  building "packages"

6) Ultra high speed, delivery system for said packages.

7) Un-erring accuracy in delivery of the packages.  No confirmed mis-deliverys of said packages.  Only rumor and humorous advertising.

8) Genetically modified reindeer.  One especially.

9) Does not exist in a officially recognized database.  Or at least not officially.
 

Santa Claus.
Bond Villain? or Alphabet agency spook?  You decide.

Note the post above is strictly meant in jest. Just to clarify.  Nothing else added or removed.

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Re: The Santa Conspiracy
« Reply #28 on: December 25, 2012, 03:24:49 pm »
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Santa Claus.
Bond Villain? or Alphabet agency spook? You decide.

When I first read your post I thought "Give the guy a break".

On reflection there could be cause for concern.

Look at it this way. He clearly prefers to maintain anonymity. The cameo appearances in shopping malls are more often than not taken on by staff disappointed by the fact he consistently fails to show.

But all that secrecy does make you wonder. On the one hand he could well be named as the culprit in one of the next 'false flag' ops. (To date the CIA has named just about everyone else.) On the other, after all I've read about his jeckyll & hyde characteristics I begin to fear he may have actually been recruited & that his next 'appearance' may not be so 'seasonal'.

Maybe they'll let him do the dirty work and then, next time he happens to be passing over, switch on HARRP. You knew it had a purpose, didn't you?

From that day on the NWO has the perfect excuse to access every home on the map, seeing as none of us knows the real deal from Adam.

...Which could give a new meaning to 'reds under the bed'.

Chilling.

Originally posted by zorgon

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Santa Claus.
Bond Villain? or Alphabet agency spook?  You decide.


Well there ya go... you just showed us why the NGA supports him with delivery technology and why the DoD tracks him with Norad...

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I wonder if this could somehow tie into it maybe renegade elves just looking to promote a bad name for him? or does it go deeper than that?

Elves Gone Wild
Inside New York with Jack Frost


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Re: The Santa Conspiracy
« Reply #29 on: December 25, 2012, 03:29:19 pm »
Originally posted by Nola213 ATS Post ID 5436295

Now, this topic brings up a lot of questions, if true:
Does this Santa actually pay his elves, or is he some sort of Slave Master?
I notice they (the elves) are all small and underweight, while he has a huge belly, and Mrs clause, has an enormous booty.

Also, is Santa Claus , actually Saint Nicholas of the Catholic faith?
and what of Frosty? and Jack Frost. or Heat Meiser, and Freeze Meiser, or The Grinch?
and last but not least can you provide proof of one named Ebenezer Scrooge?

I mean how deep does the conspiracy go?


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Jack frost I can do....


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