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Re: Malaysia flight 370 Where is it?
« Reply #15 on: March 12, 2014, 03:05:07 pm »
I was thinking of the movie Milleinum 1989
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« Reply #16 on: March 12, 2014, 06:23:04 pm »


http://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/missing-jet/chinese-satellite-images-may-be-missing-jet-debris-report-n51346






Chinese Satellite Images May Be of Missing Jet Debris: Report

China's official Xinhua news agency reported Wednesday that a government website has published satellite images of what might be debris from the Malaysia Airlines plane that went missing last week.

According to the website, the high-resolution photos were taken around 11 a.m. local time on March 9 over the South China Sea, which is one of the areas where investigators are searching for the wreckage. The website does not confirm the images actually depict the debris of Flight 370.

NBC News cannot currently confirm what is depicted in the photos and whether they are connected to the missing jetliner.

The Chinese media report said the images appear to show "three suspected floating objects" of varying sizes.

The report includes coordinates of a location in the sea off the southern tip of Vietnam and east of Malaysia.

The largest of the suspected pieces of debris measures about about 79 by 72 feet, according to the Chinese report.

Senior U.S. defense and military officials said they have no information on the Chinese satellite imagery. According to one official, "Nothing's coming up" on their satellite networks regarding these images.

More than 27,000 square nautical miles of sea are being searched in a 12-nation effort, officials said Wednesday, as the hunt for the missing jet entered its fifth day.

— Becky Bratu and Jim Miklaszewski with The Associated Press

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Re: Malaysia flight 370 Where is it?
« Reply #17 on: March 13, 2014, 06:40:01 am »

http://news.msn.com/world/malaysia-no-engine-data-after-plane-went-missing


Experts say that if the plane crashed into the ocean then some debris should be floating on the surface even if most of the jet is submerged. Past experience shows that finding the wreckage can take weeks or even longer, especially if the location of the plane is in doubt.

The hunt has been punctuated by false leads, the latest Thursday when planes were sent to search the area where Chinese satellite images published on a Chinese government website showed "three suspected floating objects" of varying sizes in a 20-kilometer (12-mile) radius off the southern tip of Vietnam.

"There is nothing. We went there, there is nothing," Azharuddin said.

In the latest in a series of confusing events, he later said the Chinese Embassy had notified the government that the images were released by mistake and did not show any debris from Flight 370.

Malaysia's air force chief said Wednesday that an unidentified object appeared on military radar records about 200 miles (320 kilometers) northwest of Penang, Malaysia, and experts are analyzing the data in an attempt to determine whether the blip is the missing plane.



wouldn't you think that with satilites that can see faces on the street they would be able to find this plane !!

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Re: Malaysia flight 370 Where is it?
« Reply #18 on: March 13, 2014, 06:57:39 am »
wouldn't you think that with satilites that can see faces on the street they would be able to find this plane !!
No. :)

A satellite that can take photos with enough resolution to show a face needs millions of photos to cover that area, if there aren't any clouds hiding the surface. The bigger the resolution the smaller the area covered and vice versa.

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Re: Malaysia flight 370 Where is it?
« Reply #19 on: March 13, 2014, 11:20:16 am »
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2579524/Hijacked-hidden-US-counter-terror-officials-fear-plane-captured-debris-spotted-Chinese-ruled-new-data-reveals-airborne-FOUR-hours-vanishing.html

Well now...a new wrinkle in this saga.  We are now told that the aircraft was still airborne for 4 hours after it vanished.  Still, nobody knows the truth.  It will be interesting to know what really happened.  Starting to wonder if someone knows the truth and are not telling.  No, that wouldn't happen now would it? (sarcasm intended)
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Re: Malaysia flight 370 Where is it?
« Reply #20 on: March 13, 2014, 11:59:09 am »
Okay, here is some additional information.  Once again none of this is proven but this scenario could be more frightening not knowing what the purpose of hijacking an airliner would be.  Flying a nuclear device over a country, exploding said device to create an electromagnetic pulse on the ground.  If this is a hijack, this would be my theory of what it could be used for and this scenario frightens me to be honest with you.

http://intellihub.com/malaysian-airliner-may-commandeered-taken-secret-coco-island-base-new-info-reveals-plane-flew-4-hours-transponder-deactivated/

Apparently the group, likely militarized, who commandeered the jetliner and it’s 239 occupants, didn’t account for the Boeing company’s automatic maintenance download which successfully transferred data from the missing aircraft to Boeing’s database about 5-hours after the triple-seven’s takeoff. This data transfer did happen and has been confirmed by Boeing officials.
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Re: Malaysia flight 370 Where is it?
« Reply #21 on: March 13, 2014, 12:40:29 pm »
http://www.theguardian.com/world/blog/2014/mar/13/mh370-no-sign-of-debris-detected-by-chinese-satellite-live-updates

Here we are now having some corrections to previous news and some updates.  This is not unusual as an incident tends to progress and the experts rule out some things and communication are clear as muddy water.  This is a fluid incident where things may change by the hour as certain things are ruled out.

EXCELLENT TIMELINE AND SUMMARY OF EVENTS ETC....

And some more news:

http://intellihub.com/e-bomb-electronic-weapon-can-make-plane-disappear-videos/

Brings up EMP (electro magnetic pulse)
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Re: Malaysia flight 370 Where is it?
« Reply #22 on: March 15, 2014, 09:38:30 am »

and yet another scenario


http://www.cnn.com/2014/03/14/world/asia/malaysia-airlines-plane/

CNN Exclusive: Analysis shows two possible Indian Ocean paths for airliner
By Barbara Starr and Chelsea J. Carter, CNN
updated 10:01 PM EDT, Fri March 14, 2014


Washington (CNN) -- Malaysia Airlines Flight 370 made drastic changes in altitude and direction after disappearing from civilian radar, U.S. officials told CNN on Friday, raising questions for investigators about just who was at the controls of the commercial jetliner that went missing one week ago with 239 people on board.

The more the United States learns about the flight's pattern, "the more difficult to write off" the idea that some type of human intervention was involved, one of the officials familiar with the investigation said.

The revelation comes as CNN has learned that a classified analysis of electronic and satellite data suggests the flight likely crashed either in the Bay of Bengal or elsewhere in the Indian Ocean.

The analysis conducted by the United States and Malaysian governments may have narrowed the search area for the jetliner that vanished en route from Kuala Lumpur to Beijing, leaving little trace of where it went or why.

The analysis used radar data and satellite pings to calculate that the plane diverted to the west, across the Malayan peninsula, and then either flew in a northwest direction toward the Bay of Bengal or southwest into the Indian Ocean.

The theory builds on earlier revelations by U.S. officials that an automated reporting system on the airliner was pinging satellites for up to five hours after its last reported contact with air traffic controllers. Inmarsat, a satellite communications company, confirmed to CNN that automated signals were registered on its network.

Taken together, the data point toward speculation of a dark scenario in which someone took control of the plane for some unknown purpose, perhaps terrorism.

That theory is buoyed by word from a senior U.S. official familiar with the investigation that the Malaysia Airlines plane made several significant altitude changes and altered its course more than once after losing contact with flight towers.

The jetliner was flying "a strange path," the official said on condition of anonymity. The details of the radar readings were first reported by The New York Times on Friday.

Malaysian military radar showed the plane climbing to 45,000 feet soon after disappearing from civilian radar screens and then dropping to 23,000 feet before climbing again, the official said.

The question of what happened to the jetliner has turned into one of the biggest mysteries in aviation history, befuddling industry experts and government officials.

Suggestions have ranged from a catastrophic explosion to sabotage to hijacking to pilot suicide.

The sabotage theory got a boost Friday from The Wall Street Journal, which reported investigators increasingly suspect the plane's communications systems were manually switched off.

Investigators are trying to determine whether the satellite communications system that pinged for hours stopped functioning because "something catastrophic happened or someone switched off" the system, the newspaper reported, citing an unnamed person familiar with the jet's last known position.

The pings stopped at a point over the Indian Ocean, while the jetliner was flying at a normal cruising altitude, according to the newspaper.

Malaysia Airlines Flight 370: What we know and don't know

Movie-plot theory

Then there's the theory that maybe Flight 370 landed in a remote Indian Ocean island chain.

The suggestion -- and it's only that at this point -- is based on analysis of radar data revealed Friday by Reuters suggesting that the plane wasn't just blindly flying northwest from Malaysia. Reuters, citing unidentified sources familiar with the investigation, reported that whoever was piloting the vanished jet was following navigational waypoints that would have taken the plane over the Andaman Islands.

The radar data don't show the plane over the Andaman Islands, but only on a known route that would take it there, Reuters cited its sources as saying.

The movie-plot theory seems more complicated and unlikely than one in which the plane -- its flight crew perhaps incapacitated -- simply flew on until it ran out of fuel or faced some other problem. But it's one that law enforcement has to check out, former FBI Assistant Director James Kallstrom said.

Timeline of Malaysia Airlines Flight 370

Aviation experts say it's possible, if highly unlikely, that someone could have hijacked and landed the giant Boeing 777 undetected.

The international airport in Port Blair, the regional capital of the Andaman and Nicobar islands, has a runway that is long enough to accommodate a 777, according to publicly available data.

But the region is highly militarized because of its strategic importance to India, Indian officials with knowledge of the operation tell CNN, making it an unlikely target for pirates trying to sneak in an enormous airplane with a wingspan of more than 200 feet.

Denis Giles, editor of the Andaman Chronicle newspaper, says there's just nowhere to land such a big plane in his archipelago without attracting notice.

"There is no chance, no such chance, that any aircraft of this size can come towards Andaman and Nicobar Islands and land," he said.

The Malaysian government said Friday that it can't confirm the report.

And a senior U.S. official offered a conflicting account Thursday, telling CNN that "there is probably a significant likelihood" the plane is on the bottom of the Indian Ocean.

Among the things being considered is whether lithium batteries in the cargo hold, which have been blamed in previous crashes, played a role in the disappearance, according to U.S. officials briefed on the latest developments in the investigation. The officials spoke on condition of anonymity because they were not authorized to release details to the media.

If the batteries being carried on the plane caused a fire, it still doesn't fully explain other anomalies with Flight 370, the officials say.

What is a transponder?

Details of the search

Malaysian officials, who are coordinating the search, said Friday that the hunt for the plane was spreading deeper into both the Indian Ocean and the South China Sea.

India has deployed assets from its navy, coast guard and air force to the south Andaman Sea to take part in the search, the country's Ministry of Defense said Friday.

Indian search teams are combing large areas of the archipelago. Two aircraft are searching land and coastal areas of the island chain from north to south, an Indian military spokesman said Friday, and two coast guard ships have been diverted to search along the islands' east coast. Indian officials are also including part of the Bay of Bengal in their search, officials said.

As of Friday, 57 ships and 48 aircraft from 13 countries were involved in the search, Hishammuddin Hussein, the minister in charge of defense and transportation, said at a news briefing.

China, which said it would be extending its search, said crews have searched more than 27,000 square miles (about 70,000 square kilometers) of the South China Sea without finding anything.

On Friday, the United States sent the destroyer USS Kidd to scout the Indian Ocean as the search expands into that body of water.

"I, like most of the world, really have never seen anything like this," Cmdr. William Marks of the U.S. 7th Fleet said of the scale of the search. "It's pretty incredible."

"It's a completely new game now," he said. "We went from a chess board to a football field."

Malaysia Airlines: The pilots of the missing plane

Other developments

• "Seafloor event": Chinese researchers say they recorded a "seafloor event" in waters around Malaysia and Vietnam about an hour and a half after the missing plane's last known contact. The event was recorded in a non-seismic region about 116 kilometers (72 miles) northeast of the plane's last confirmed location, the University of Science and Technology of China said.

"Judging from the time and location of the two events, the seafloor event may have been caused by MH370 crashing into the sea," said a statement posted on the university's website.

However, U.S. Geological Survey earthquake scientist Harley Benz said Friday that the event appeared to be consistent with a naturally occurring 2.7-magnitude earthquake.

• Malaysian response: Authorities continued to defend their response to the crash. "A normal investigation becomes narrower with time, I understand, as new information focuses the search," Hussein said. "But this is not a normal investigation. In this case, the information we have forces us to look further and further afield."

However, Bob Francis, a former National Transportation Safety Board official, is one of several experts who have questioned how Malaysian authorities have handled the situation.

"The Malaysians are not doing a superb job of running this investigation," he said. "And they apparently give you some information, and then they withhold information. How much are they relying on and listening to the Europeans and the NTSB who are there with more expertise? I don't know, but I think you know we've got a mixture of a very strange situation that happens to be in an environment, a regulatory environment, that really isn't capable or isn't running an investigation the way it should be run."

How you can help find the plane   http://www.cnn.com/2014/03/11/us/malaysia-airlines-plane-crowdsourcing-search/index.html?hpt=bosread

Barbara Starr reported from Washington, Chelsea J. Carter wrote from Atlanta. CNN's Jethro Mullen, Michael Pearson, Evan Perez, Jim Sciutto, Mike M. Ahlers, Pamela Brown, Aaron Cooper, Brian Walker, Harmeet Shah Singh and Karen Chiu contributed to this report.


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Re: Malaysia flight 370 Where is it?
« Reply #23 on: March 15, 2014, 10:36:18 am »

Officials - ‘It Is Conclusive’ Someone
Hijacked Missing Jet


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The official, who is involved in the investigation, says no motive has been established, and it is not yet clear where the plane was taken. The official spoke on condition of anonymity because he was not authorized to brief the media.
 
The official said that hijacking
was no longer a theory. “It is conclusive.”




http://washington.cbslocal.com/2014/03/15/malaysian-official-it-is-conclusive-someone-hijacked-missing-jet/


They have the data from Satellite, the Rolls Royce engines
have a sat uplink and they kept pinging pressure and temps
to the Satellite. Following the direction of the pings,
engine temps and pressure lead them to believe
the Plane flew for 7 hours.

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Re: Malaysia flight 370 Where is it?
« Reply #24 on: March 15, 2014, 10:42:24 am »
They have satellite tracking of the engines and we are only now hearing this?

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Re: Malaysia flight 370 Where is it?
« Reply #25 on: March 15, 2014, 10:45:06 am »
They have satellite tracking of the engines and we are only now hearing this?

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I could have posted it on day one, some people
know these things. But, you know how that goes.

Yes, they have known this from the hours
the flight went missing. Rolls Royce is bound
to keep its mouth shut by The Ori.

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Re: Malaysia flight 370 Where is it?
« Reply #26 on: March 15, 2014, 10:49:07 am »
They also know that the transponder was manually turned off.  Someone in the black world knows what happened in my opinion.  Diego Garcia is in the Indian Ocean and I am pretty sure they keep and eye on a lot of air space.  So I say what's up USAF and the listening post that is there.  Hello....
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Re: Malaysia flight 370 Where is it?
« Reply #27 on: March 15, 2014, 10:51:16 am »
I haven't read any clear explanation anywhere as to what the hijackers intended to accomplish - especially as they seemed to be flying to nowhere in particular.

I know there was once a smaller plane that was deliberately brought down in a field because it's entire crew and passengers were dead from decompression.  If this 777 was up for 7 hours, did it fly until it ran out of fuel?

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« Reply #28 on: March 15, 2014, 10:57:39 am »
Analysts from U.S. Intelligence, the Federal Aviation Administration and the National Transportation Safety Board have tracked satellite data and pings in the Indian Ocean area that they attribute to Flight 370. And without any visual confirmation of the aircraft, there is only one grim conclusion to make: “There is probably a significant likelihood” that the aircraft is now at the bottom of the Indian Ocean, an official said, according to CNN.

http://hollywoodlife.com/2014/03/14/malaysia-airlines-flight-andaman-islands-landing-zone/

Of course these are some of the people that said a missile did not hit TWA 800 also.  Look behind the curtain!

Oh, I forgot to mention, the Indians say they have a military installation on the Andaman Islands with radar.  Think they can pinpoint what happened in the area.  Like I said, we have the technology to track a shark with a locator on it we can track anything.
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Re: Malaysia flight 370 Where is it?
« Reply #29 on: March 15, 2014, 10:58:29 am »
I haven't read any clear explanation anywhere as to what the hijackers intended to accomplish - especially as they seemed to be flying to nowhere in particular.

Just depends - There are several possible reasons
to hijack a plane, and where the plane goes is determined
by who is doing the hijacking. I think it is safe to say
that this is something deep and nefarious.

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  If this 777 was up for 7 hours, did it fly until it ran out of fuel?

No, the pilot can request additional fuel preflight. Remember
this particular pilot was doing days off practice on
his flight sim....think about that one.

 
They keep track of the plane by its own contrails, this is no joke.
NSA can look that up in minutes, if not seconds.

A 777 at 45,000 feet is going to blowing a big one.   
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