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Re: Libya attack: Obama vows justice for killed US envoy
« Reply #30 on: September 13, 2012, 12:00:57 pm »
Sorry, people of America, this not the behavior of our Islam | Libya



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Re: Libya attack: Obama vows justice for killed US envoy
« Reply #31 on: September 13, 2012, 12:03:06 pm »
Timbuktu: Destruction of cultural heritage

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A radical Islamist militia group, Ansar Dine, with links to Al-Qaeda are destroying the cultural heritage of Timbuktu, a country which was a prominent centre of Islamic learning in the 15th and 16th centuries. Phillip will discuss these developments with author Tahir Shah who writes in his new book that for centuries, the greatest explorers of their age were dispatched from the power-houses of Europe — London, Paris and Berlin — to be the first white Christian to visit, and then to sack, the fabled metropolis of Timbuktu.

Timbuktu: Destruction of cultural heritage




Latest Attack on the Sufi Shrines in Libya
Failure of the Sufis and the Religious Scholars



Sufi religious sites attacked and destroyed in Libya

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News Flash: On Friday, 25th August, a group attacked the tomb of 15th-Century scholar Abdel Salam al-Asmar in Zlitan, about 160km (100 miles) south-east of Tripoli, Lybia. The Reuters news agency said its dome had collapsed. The attack came a day after hardliners the deviants were accused of damaging the tomb of a Sufi scholar in the city of Zlitan.

A shrine in the Libyan capital Tripoli venerating a Sufi Muslim saint has been partly destroyed - the latest in a series of attacks blamed on ultra-conservative Salafi Islamists by neo-Khajirites.

There has recently been an international outcry over the destruction of centuries-old shrines in Timbuktu, Mali. (Source: BBC)

On Sunday 26th August 2012 the Salafis deviants came at night 3 AM while people were sleeping and dug out the blessed resting place of Hazrat Shaykh Ahmad Zaruq Alayhi Rahma. Shaykh Ahmed Zarruq, one of Islam's greatest scholars ever. These cowardly men have been digging up, bombing and bulldozing sacred grave sites in Libya for the past week.

It is also reported that the vandals have taken the blessed body of Shaykh Ahmad Zarruq and removed it at unknown location and the Salafis the neo-Khajirites are on their way to destroy the tomb of a blessed companion (sahabi), Ruwayfi’ b. Thabit al-Ansari in Libya. (Credit: Journey of a Seeker of Sacred Knowledge).

This falls in a series of incidents of rising ignorance. In October 2011, raids on Libyan Sufi sites included the desecration of the Al-Masry shrine in Tripoli and the extraction from their burial crypts within it of the bodies of two Muslim scholars, Abdul-Rahman al-Masri and Salem Abu Seif  and reburied according to the principles of the hardline Wahabi school. In January 2012 fanatics had wrecked the cemetery of Sidi Ubaid in Benghazi, stealing 31 corpses.

The shrine of the fifteenth/sixteenth-century C.E. Sufi Sidi Abdul-Salam Al-Asmar Al-Fituri, at Zliten in western Libya, was targeted four months ago, in March 2012 by one hundred carloads of armed fundamentalists, according to the Libya Herald, a post-revolutionary media source.


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Re: Libya attack: Obama vows justice for killed US envoy
« Reply #32 on: September 13, 2012, 12:12:50 pm »
Afghan Taliban Begin Destruction of Ancient Buddha Statues

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KABUL - Ignoring an international outcry, Afghanistan's puritanical Taliban Islamic militia began demolishing statues across the country on Thursday, including two towering ancient stone Buddhas.

Taliban Minister of Information and Culture Qudratullah Jamal told AFP the destruction of scores of pre-Islamic figures, designed to stop the worshipping of "false idols," had begun throughout the country.


Undated photo of the world's tallest statue of Bhudda measuring 53 meters (175 feet) in Bamiyan, 125 kilometers (90 miles) west of Kabul in Afghanistan. Supreme Commander of the Taliban Mullah Mohammad Omar had ordered the destruction of all statues in Afghanistan, including the centuries-old Buddha in Bamiyan, and armed Taliban troops fanned out across the country Thursday to implement the supreme leader's order. (AP Photo)
He said militiamen started wrecking the almost 2,000-year-old Buddhist masterpieces in the central province of Bamiyan, including the world's tallest standing Buddha measuring 50 meters (165 feet), after sunrise.

"The work started about five hours ago but I do not know how much of it (the two Bamiyan Buddhas) has been destroyed," Jamal said. "It will be destroyed by every means. All the statues are being destroyed."

He said Taliban soldiers were at "work" in the Kabul museum and elsewhere in the provinces of Ghazni, Herat, Jalalabad and Kandahar.

An edict announced Monday by the militia's supreme leader, Mulla Mohammad Omar, calling for the destruction of all statues in line with "Islamic" laws, has caused shock around the world.

Afghanistan is home to an array of pre-Islamic historic treasures from its days as a key stop on the ancient Silk Road and a strategic battleground for conquerers dating back to Alexander the Great and the Aryans before him.

The two massive Bamiyan Buddhas, carved into a sandstone cliff near the provincial capital in central Afghanistan, stand 50 meters (165 feet) and 34.5 meters (114 feet) tall and were built around the second century.

Appeals for their preservation have come from the United States, France, Germany, Thailand, Japan, Sri Lanka, Iran, Pakistan, Germany, Russia, India and UN Secretary General Kofi Annan.

Koichiro Matsuura, chief of the UN Educational, Scientific and Cultural Organization (UNESCO), said he had convened an emergency meeting of members of the Organization of the Islamic Conference to try to stop the destruction.

"They are destroying statues that the entire world considers to be masterpieces," Matsuura said.

"And this is being done in the name of an interpretation of the Muslim faith that is not recognized anywhere else in the world."

But Afghan Foreign Minister Wakil Ahmad Mutawakel said the edict was irreversible. "Have you ever seen any decision of the Islamic Emirate (Taliban) reversed?" Mutawakel asked.

Afghan Taliban Begin Destruction of Ancient Buddha Statues


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Re: Libya attack: Obama vows justice for killed US envoy
« Reply #33 on: September 13, 2012, 12:19:23 pm »
Islamic Clerics Call on Egypt to Destroy Great Pyramids



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Several Islamic clerics called on Muslim Brotherhood President Mohammad Morsi to destroy the great pyramids and finish the work of Mohammad companion Sahabi Amr bin al-As.
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    According to several reports in the Arabic media, prominent Muslim clerics have begun to call for the demolition of Egypt’s Great Pyramids–or, in the words of Saudi Sheikh Ali bin Said al-Rabi’i, those “symbols of paganism,” which Egypt’s Salafi party has long planned to cover with wax. Most recently, Bahrain’s “Sheikh of Sunni Sheikhs” and President of National Unity, Abd al-Latif al-Mahmoud, called on Egypt’s new president, Muhammad Morsi, to “destroy the Pyramids and accomplish what the Sahabi Amr bin al-As could not.”

    This is a reference to the Muslim Prophet Muhammad’s companion, Amr bin al-As and his Arabian tribesmen, who invaded and conquered Egypt circa 641. Under al-As and subsequent Muslim rule, many Egyptian antiquities were destroyed as relics of infidelity. While most Western academics argue otherwise, according to early Muslim writers, the great Library of Alexandria itself–deemed a repository of pagan knowledge contradicting the Koran–was destroyed under bin al-As’s reign and in compliance with Caliph Omar’s command.

    However, while book-burning was an easy activity in the 7th century, destroying the mountain-like pyramids and their guardian Sphinx was not–even if Egypt’s Medieval Mamluk rulers “de-nosed” the latter during target practice (though popular legend still attributes it to a Westerner, Napoleon).

    Now, however, as Bahrain’s “Sheikh of Sheikhs” observes, and thanks to modern technology, the pyramids can be destroyed. The only question left is whether the Muslim Brotherhood president of Egypt is “pious” enough–if he is willing to complete the Islamization process that started under the hands of Egypt’s first Islamic conqueror.

    Nor is such a course of action implausible. History is laden with examples of Muslims destroying their own pre-Islamic heritage–starting with Islam’s prophet Muhammad himself, who destroyed Arabia’s Ka’ba temple, transforming it into a mosque.

In December the Salafist Party in Egypt, which just won 20 percent of the vote, wanted to cover the “idolatrous” Giza pyramids with wax.
Now they want to blow them up.

Islamic Clerics Call on Egypt to Destroy Great Pyramids


Holy hoax: Radical Islamists call on Egypt to destroy pyramids



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Calls from a Bahraini Sunni cleric to destroy Egypt’s Great Pyramids have been revealed as a hoax. The demands were made from a Twitter account which claimed to be owned by Bahrain’s President of National Unity, Abd al-Latif al-Mahmoud.

In the post, a person masquerading as al-Mahmoud labeled the pyramids “idolatrous” and asked Egypt’s new president to destroy them, as Egypt's Daily News reports.

Several conservative websites used the news to raise alarm over the rise of Egypt’s Islamist government.

According to rumors, al-Mahmoud encouraged Cairo to “accomplish what the Sahabi Amr bin al-As could not.”

This was a reference to the Muslim Prophet Mohammed’s companion, Amr bin al-As, and his ancient tribesmen who invaded and conquered Egypt in 641.

An Islamization process was begun under his rule – which saw many Egyptian monuments destroyed as “relics of infidelity.”

However, demolishing the pyramids was prohibited during the 7th century – so the structures remained untouched.

The parody tweet was published on June 25 – the same day Muhammed Morsi was announced president of Egypt. However, it wasn’t picked up by media until today.

The fake tweet that sparked frenzy in the Arab Media coincided with a genuine attack on cultural heritage objects by radicals.

On Tuesday, Islamist fighters destroyed two tombs at the famous Djingareyber mosque in the Malian city of Timbuktu. Witnesses say militants shot into the air to warn people away while they smashed the shrines.


A still from a video shows Islamist militants destroying an ancient shrine in Timbuktu on July 1, 2012 (AFP Photo)

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The mosque is a UNESCO World Heritage site and contains shrines dedicated to Islamic saints.

The Al-Qaeda-linked Ansar Dine group claimed responsibility for the act, saying the shrines were idolatrous.

The International Criminal Court has condemned the destruction of the tombs, and warned that it could constitute a war crime.

The act has led many to ask why Islamic militants would choose to demolish their own religious heritage.

A spokesman for the Ansar Dine group, Oumar Ould Hamaha, told AP that the organization has “divine orders” to destroy any grave that is over 20cm tall, because anything taller encourages people to direct their prayer toward the deceased, rather than to God.

Hamaha says residents of Timbuktu need to get their priorities straight and stop confusing the saints with Allah. He claims the destruction is for their own good.

But the militants aren’t solely focused on demolishing Muslim heritage; other religions have fallen victim to destruction, as well.

In 2001, the Taliban’s supreme leader issued an order against un-Islamic graven images.

The edict resulted in members using exposives, tanks, and anti-aircraft weapons to blow apart two images of Buddha in eastern Afghanistan.

Radical Islamists call on Egypt to destroy pyramids


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Re: Libya attack: Obama vows justice for killed US envoy
« Reply #34 on: September 13, 2012, 12:25:53 pm »
Who Destroyed Alexandria's Famous Library?



Early in the year A. D. 642, Alexandria surrendered to Amrou, the Islamic general leading the armies of Omar, Caliph of Baghdad. Long one of the most important cities of the ancient world and capital of Byzantine Egypt, Alexandria surrendered only after a long siege and attempts to rescue the city by the Byzantines. On the orders of Omar, Caliph of Baghdad, the entire collection of books (except for the works of Aristotle) stored at the Library of Alexandria were removed and used as fuel to heat water for the city's public baths.

The final individual to get blamed for the destruction is the Moslem Caliph Omar. In 640 AD the Moslems took the city of Alexandria. Upon learning of "a great library containing all the knowledge of the world" the conquering general supposedly asked Caliph Omar for instructions. The Caliph has been quoted as saying of the Library's holdings, "they will either contradict the Koran, in which case they are heresy, or they will agree with it, so they are superfluous." So, allegedly, all the texts were destroyed by using them as tinder for the bathhouses of the city. Even then it was said to have taken six months to burn all the documents.

2500 years later... they still have learned nothing nor changed...



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Re: Libya attack: Obama vows justice for killed US envoy
« Reply #35 on: September 13, 2012, 12:34:08 pm »
I have only ONE question...

IF this sentiment is SINCERE...

IF the vast MAJORITY of Islam feels this way...

IF only ONE percent of Islam is fanatics and murderers...

Then WHY does this vast majority not DO SOMETHING and clean their own house?

Put up or Shut up...

If you sincere,  then the world will have your back...

It really is that simple


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Re: Libya attack: Obama vows justice for killed US envoy
« Reply #36 on: September 13, 2012, 12:45:15 pm »
Okay at least SOMEONE mentioned it at ATS 

Bravo pavil   That post needs stars and requotes


pavil

While I appreciate the thoughts and sentiments, what I am really looking for is concrete actions. Why haven't the AQ inspired militia groups been "taken care of" yet? I saw pictures of Libyans trying to help those US embassy personal, for that I am thankful, but it wasn't enough to prevent it.


I really do want to see freedom and democracy ect thrive with the Arab Spring revolutions, more so for the people of the region than for any geopolitical reason. But so far all I have seen is the power vacuum of one dictator rapidly replaced by yet another dictator. The real foot soldiers of the Arab Spring, the people yearning for freedom, have just exchanged one master for another, I fear. Those foot soldiers need to stay vigilant and ready to protest again.

Does anyone really think that the Muslim Brotherhood will ever hold free and fair elections in Egypt again? Myself I doubt it, especially the way they are going after groups and people not supporting them. Shutting down media outlets, replacing posts with cronies....... where have I seen this story before?


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Re: Libya attack: Obama vows justice for killed US envoy
« Reply #37 on: September 13, 2012, 01:05:21 pm »
 :D

That would never happen in a Western Country that blaze's shratnel around in the name of the G*D  for sure...  :o

 


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Re: Libya attack: Obama vows justice for killed US envoy
« Reply #38 on: September 13, 2012, 01:33:05 pm »
U.S. vows to hunt down perpetrators of Benghazi attack
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September 13, 2012




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Washington (CNN) -- The United States on Wednesday vowed to avenge the killings of its ambassador to Libya and three other Americans, moving warships toward the Libyan coast and preparing to track the suspected perpetrators with surveillance drones, officials said.

The slain ambassador, Chris Stevens, helped save Libya's eastern city of Benghazi during last year's revolution. He died there Tuesday night, along with another diplomat and two State Department security officers, when a mob stormed the U.S. Consulate and set it ablaze.

The Benghazi consulate was one of several American diplomatic missions that faced protests after the online release of a film that ridiculed Muslims and depicted the Prophet Mohammed as a child molester, womanizer and ruthless killer.

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Libya's leaders apologized for the attack, with Prime Minister Abdurrahim el-Keib calling it a "cowardly, criminal act." And Obama said that despite the inflammatory movie, the violence was unwarranted.

"Since our founding, the United States has been a nation that respects all faiths. We reject all efforts to denigrate the religious beliefs of others," he said. "But there is absolutely no justification for this type of senseless violence -- none."

U.S. vows to hunt down perpetrators of Benghazi attack


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Re: Libya attack: Obama vows justice for killed US envoy
« Reply #39 on: September 13, 2012, 01:46:47 pm »
U.S. deploys warships, drones after Libya attack

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Washington - The United States is deploying warships and surveillance drones in its hunt for those who killed four U.S. diplomatic staffers in Libya — an attack that has outraged Americans and Libyans alike.

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Navy ships sent to waters off Libya coast
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Two Navy guided missile destroyers are being deployed off the coast of Libya, after attacks Tuesday on the U.S. Consulate in Benghazi left four Americans dead, including the U.S. ambassador, military officials told Fox News.

The destroyers are for "contingency purposes," a military official said.

In addition, officials said a "fast team" of 50 Marines was being sent from the U.S. Naval base in Rota, Spain. They are expected to go to Tripoli. According to a U.S. official, there are no U.S. personnel left at the consulate in Benghazi which was attacked.

A U.S. military aircraft is also expected to leave Libya soon with the dead and wounded onboard.

The move comes after President Obama ordered "all necessary resources" provided to Libya to support the security of U.S. personnel in the country.

In a statement, Obama also said he's directed his administration to "increase security at our diplomatic posts around the globe."
Ambassador J. Christopher Stevens and three other American staff members were killed in the attacks Tuesday.

U.S. posts are on alert amid protests, so far in Libya and Egypt, over a film that ridiculed Islam's Prophet Muhammad.

A senior military official clarified Wednesday that despite some reports, no Marines were killed in the Tuesday attack.

Navy ships sent to waters off Libya coast

Third day of protests in Cairo
More protests near U.S. Embassy in Cairo
By the CNN Wire Staff
September 13, 2012






Embassy clashes in Yemen
4 killed as Yemeni police, demonstrators clash at U.S. Embassy
September 13, 2012


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Three protesters were injured when Yemeni police fired on an angry demonstration outside the American Embassy in the capital of Sanaa.

Sanaa, Yemen (CNN) -- Violent clashes outside the U.S. Embassy in Yemen's capital left four protesters dead, Yemeni security officials said Thursday.

Twenty-four security force members were reported injured, as were 11 protesters, according to Yemen's Defense Ministry, security officials and eyewitnesses.

Protesters and witnesses said one protester was critically injured when police fired on them as they tried to disperse the angry crowd.

The protests in Sanaa are the latest to roil the Middle East over the online release of a film produced in the United States that denigrates the Prophet Mohammed.

As evening came, the number of protesters dwindled and tensions began to ease, after a day in which demonstrators breached a security wall and stormed the embassy amid escalating anti-American sentiment.

No embassy personnel were harmed, U.S. officials said.

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Re: Libya attack: Obama vows justice for killed US envoy
« Reply #40 on: September 13, 2012, 01:48:33 pm »
The solution, which is really quite simple, is to point out the only artifacts left will be Western ones, and they will complete Western history as absolute since the Muslim world will have no way to prove their heritage.

QED and not a drop of blood shed.
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Re: Libya attack: Obama vows justice for killed US envoy
« Reply #41 on: September 13, 2012, 01:59:07 pm »
Good point Janitor :D

Unless the Sufis are like Tibetans :D

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Re: Libya attack: Obama vows justice for killed US envoy
« Reply #42 on: September 13, 2012, 02:02:54 pm »
Perhaps the ROOT of "EVIL" is Religion !

IF we were for LIFE then the world would be Free of EVIL.

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Re: Libya attack: Obama vows justice for killed US envoy
« Reply #43 on: September 13, 2012, 02:05:59 pm »
i almost got kicked off protos sight for having feelings of resentment toward the arab world.
the more i read on here from zorgon,the more i resent them.
great research zorgon.

there has to be something positive coming out of that region of the world but i sure dont see it.

i think its time for the muslims to put up or shut up.
yes we have christian knuckleheads but not at the magnitude that is going on around the world.
or am i just sheltered?
ive never been much for rules.
being me has its priviledges.

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« Reply #44 on: September 13, 2012, 02:06:18 pm »
did you ever notice that evil is live backwards

 


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