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Re: A Reason I Received Why Electrogravitics is "Dangerous"
« Reply #405 on: July 11, 2012, 09:50:05 am »
Of course, it doesn't have to be a 'lifter' in that room, it could be anything... ;)

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Re: A Reason I Received Why Electrogravitics is "Dangerous"
« Reply #406 on: July 11, 2012, 10:07:48 am »
The answer to those questions?

Do we have invisible aliens out there? Probably yes

Do we have a force out their fighting them... invisible  also?    Why not.... using the same technology... right...

REmember what William Moore said... Whatever they are they have the ability to alter your perception of reality.

What did he call his book.... Think it was The Philadelphia Experiment?  NO

Actually it was " Project Invisibility.... The Philadelphia Experiment."

maybe its about time we start talking about optical invisibility here... we keep saying that the clues are right in front of us... and we can't see them... well... Now is the time folks. Times a wastin.   Linda

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Re: A Reason I Received Why Electrogravitics is "Dangerous"
« Reply #407 on: July 11, 2012, 11:11:03 am »
Good :)

So what we need first is to establish these optical effects.

No i'm not going to dive into philadelphia files, i want something more concrete & up to date like that experiment i posted.
Ideas, anyone?

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Re: A Reason I Received Why Electrogravitics is "Dangerous"
« Reply #408 on: July 11, 2012, 01:01:51 pm »
Good :)

So what we need first is to establish these optical effects.

No i'm not going to dive into philadelphia files, i want something more concrete & up to date like that experiment i posted.
Ideas, anyone?

Infra red camera, night vision attachments,, as far as optical effects are concerned...

This would be the camera for visual effects..
http://www.pco.de/categories/scmos-cameras/pcoedge/

A good spectrum analyser....
http://www.thorlabs.com/newgrouppage9.cfm?objectgroup_id=5276

All in all about 30 grand for both..some big bucks!

For the poor man, a night vision camera or a good quality video camera could work..
Im thinking of...
sorta like ghost hunting!
Le
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Re: A Reason I Received Why Electrogravitics is "Dangerous"
« Reply #409 on: July 11, 2012, 01:14:44 pm »
Well, it's not going to be that high tech around here ;D
But i do have an infrared webcam laying around (don't ask :-[)

And i have an excellent storage scope & another one coming this week.
(sorry Steve, not yours, i don't have the room for it, but thanks for the offer)

And of course, i've still got the 'sensor tree'.... :P

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Re: A Reason I Received Why Electrogravitics is "Dangerous"
« Reply #410 on: July 11, 2012, 01:21:15 pm »
Well, it's not going to be that high tech around here ;D
But i do have an infrared webcam laying around (don't ask :-[)

And i have an excellent storage scope & another one coming this week.
(sorry Steve, not yours, i don't have the room for it)

And of course, i've still got the 'sensor tree'.... :P
Hows about some photooptical sensors with spectrum specific lenses and pickups...connected to the ubiquitous laptop?

Much cheaper!
Le
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Re: A Reason I Received Why Electrogravitics is "Dangerous"
« Reply #411 on: July 11, 2012, 02:44:37 pm »
OOOO that's neat, haven't seen those yet, drool :)

GlobalSpec (dotcom) gives me very nice sensor info..

http://www.globalspec.com/electronics

Cool 8) 8) 8)

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Re: A Reason I Received Why Electrogravitics is "Dangerous"
« Reply #412 on: July 11, 2012, 03:06:13 pm »
Oooh, global spec, like a candy store for a geek! 8)
Yummy!
I see the way of finding the dangerous nature of EG and how to find its secrets are through the use of sensors and such, even though some effects might not be observable, they may have some sort of effect on the room or cage the experiment takes place in.

That alone would enable us to center on the cause of the anomalous event, even if we didnt know what it was.

Those leveling lasers could be the grail to seeing if light deviates around a lifter, like some think it does around the sun. Using a target with hashmarks on the opposing wall, we would see where the light hits after the lifter is hovering along the horizontal plane of the laser.

Still thinking sound though, as everything vibrates...thanks Mr Tesla!

I would like to launch a lifter unencumbered by short wires in a calm wind, and let it rise as high as it wants to go.

I perceive a lifter as trying to be a cloud, and it wants to relocate to where it feels balanced.

Like a cloud.

Anyone have a 5000 ft spool of 30 gauge wire?

And a hard hat and ladder?

And am I just spinning my wheels here?

I know its dangerous, but not from the electricity, and thats where I think the thread was coming from as the OP put it.

Still wouldnt want to be riding in one, that mouse was quite lucky!
Le
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Re: A Reason I Received Why Electrogravitics is "Dangerous"
« Reply #413 on: July 11, 2012, 03:11:43 pm »
Please, i'm LOL'd out here ;D ;D ;D ;D

You got it in one, though 8)

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Re: A Reason I Received Why Electrogravitics is "Dangerous"
« Reply #414 on: July 11, 2012, 05:21:29 pm »
Good :)

So what we need first is to establish these optical effects.

No i'm not going to dive into philadelphia files, i want something more concrete & up to date like that experiment i posted.
Ideas, anyone?

I completely believe that the Philadelphia Experiment story as it was written was a very cleverly designed misinformation ploy to let people know that " something had happened regarding the opening of a portal".... but the rest of it was designed to lead all investigator in the wrong direction. Said that from the first and still believe it. I know that there are some of you out there who truly want to believe every word of the Philadelphia Experiment and that would be your choice. I see as Nick Cook described it..... A very carefully orchestrated disinformation campaign. I am paraphrasing there folks whenI find his book " The Hunt for Zero Point... I will quote it directly and properly. He sensed through his research that something was very wrong with the story and I have come to believe him , and have more detailed reasons to come to that conclusion. 

So avoiding it for source of material is a very good idea.    Linda

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Re: A Reason I Received Why Electrogravitics is "Dangerous"
« Reply #415 on: July 11, 2012, 10:58:55 pm »
Detailization! LOL.  That sounds like one of those Americanisations your Presidents use to me.  Not actually a word but sounds clever.  :o

OFFtopic: look in a grammar book of old En, ye'll see many clever stuff  ::)
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Re: A Reason I Received Why Electrogravitics is "Dangerous"
« Reply #416 on: July 12, 2012, 11:13:02 am »
Fine ;D

I mentioned that i read some stories to do with large lifter experiments.

It has been mentioned that after prolonged periods of use, sparks started appearing in the areas where the liters were being tested, some hours or even days after the lifter had been deactivated

(it is unclear at this time if the lifters were physically removed from the room at that point)
I have even devised a simple experiment to determine if this is true, let me see, got a diagram somewhere...

Here it is....

(edit) sorry i posted befor that last one, Pim, do you mean my remark on the original doom scenario? I thought that was mostly B.S.)

Hi PWM, In your attached drawing what are the conductive spheres for. And are they connected to the rebar?
 
Also when you mention Large lifters, can you give me an idea of size? On size meaning square feet or the amount of material used?
 
On prolonged usage, is this minutes or days aloft?
 
One more, when you turn yours off do you tie the leads together or leave them apart? Meaning is there any residual force left over?
 
Deuem
 

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Re: A Reason I Received Why Electrogravitics is "Dangerous"
« Reply #417 on: July 12, 2012, 06:08:34 pm »
Hi Deuem;

a little clarification is needed here, I havn't done this experiment yet, but it will appear in the IF group soon.

The spheres are earthed, they are there to attract sparks from 'returning' electrons.

The size, i'm not sure of, anything like one of Naudin's efforts would do.
Say about 1 foot across or bigger.

The alleged effects happen after the lifter has been running for several hours at least. Myself i would like to run them 12 hours on, 24 hours off, something like that.
As for the wires, i don't know. personally, i would remove the lifter entirely for the 'off' period, & see what happens.

With my luck, i will be just putting it back in 24 hours later and....ZZZZAPP!
 ;D ;D

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Re: A Reason I Received Why Electrogravitics is "Dangerous"
« Reply #418 on: July 12, 2012, 10:54:53 pm »
Hi Deuem;

a little clarification is needed here, I havn't done this experiment yet, but it will appear in the IF group soon.

The spheres are earthed, they are there to attract sparks from 'returning' electrons.

The size, i'm not sure of, anything like one of Naudin's efforts would do.
Say about 1 foot across or bigger.

The alleged effects happen after the lifter has been running for several hours at least. Myself i would like to run them 12 hours on, 24 hours off, something like that.
As for the wires, i don't know. personally, i would remove the lifter entirely for the 'off' period, & see what happens.

With my luck, i will be just putting it back in 24 hours later and....ZZZZAPP!
 ;D ;D

Hi PWM,
 
No problem if you have not run this test yet. I did take it as an idea you have.
 
On the spheres, You mentioned earthed. That is Ok but are they attached to the rebar system or on their own. By Earthed do you mean the household ground or a copper rod pounded in the ground many feet?
 
I never heard of the Naudin efforts, will try and look them up.
 
For us, if and when we do this I won't be going after something as small as 1 foot, it has been done many times. The mouse and above is the objective. Need to keep stepping up the pace. Will be using different approach that is in planning now.
 
I have heard some people ground the wires or the lifter to a resistor before touching it. Have you heard this also?
 
12 on 12 off is a good time period. I think anything past 8 hours is ok for now. Then build up to never off.
 
I want to stay away from the Zap, sounds painful !
 
Deuem

 


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