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Re: Noah's Flood - Fact or Fiction?
« Reply #15 on: April 14, 2012, 01:42:31 pm »
Flood stories and creation stories are worldwide, so I think there's something to them. 

So, Earth is how old? 4.5 Billion some say... Just based on that number I would think the Earth would have flooded more than "once". Polar Ice melts causing flooding? Refreezes in new pole location? Could it be that... mixed with some other reoccuring event?

I hear Antarctica was once nice and green...?

 
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If nothing else the Irish Rovers had a good tune about the flood.
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We could always use all the discarded plastics; make a mold and start popping out "flood survival pods"...

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Re: Noah's Flood - Fact or Fiction?
« Reply #16 on: April 14, 2012, 01:49:20 pm »
Brilliant, Undo, and very clear and concise as well! You have a great handle on the Sumerian history that is so important in the present. I hope to reach half that level some day in my knowledge of them.
Your idea of words that were previously thought of as names, being actual objects of technology is spot on.
Great post, Undo!
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sitchin thought the enuma elish was about the planets and that abzu (same thing as absu and apsu), was the sun.  nopers.  unless it's got a gate associated with it.

have you ever read the book of 1 enoch?
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Re: Noah's Flood - Fact or Fiction?
« Reply #17 on: April 14, 2012, 02:05:28 pm »
What are the factors?
Polar shifts
Solar flares
Electromagnetic pulses
Radiation
Gaseous releases
Atmospheric changes
Temperature changes
Storms
Earthquakes
Volcanic activity
Asteroid impact
Gravity
Proximity or position of other spatial bodies
Trade winds
Oceanic currents
Tidal shifting
Other outside influences?

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Re: Noah's Flood - Fact or Fiction?
« Reply #18 on: April 14, 2012, 02:11:08 pm »
So, Earth is how old? 4.5 Billion some say... Just based on that number I would think the Earth would have flooded more than "once". Polar Ice melts causing flooding? Refreezes in new pole location? Could it be that... mixed with some other reoccuring event?

I hear Antarctica was once nice and green...?

 [youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r3sZReyBXTA&feature=player_embedded[/youtube]

We could always use all the discarded plastics; make a mold and start popping out "flood survival pods"...

wonder how fast the lifeforms could've adapted to such a drastic change as a pole flip in once temperate to tropical climate?  would there be any survivors had they not had millenia to become extremophiles?  (just thinking about the lifeforms they found under antartica recently_)
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Re: Noah's Flood - Fact or Fiction?
« Reply #19 on: April 14, 2012, 02:15:53 pm »
If something caused the Earths rotational speed to "slow down", would Gravity then not lessen?

That combined with all the other factors would be one hell of a bumpy ride.
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Re: Noah's Flood - Fact or Fiction?
« Reply #20 on: April 14, 2012, 02:27:35 pm »
If something caused the Earths rotational speed to "slow down", would Gravity then not lessen?

That combined with all the other factors would be one hell of a bumpy ride.

lower gravity, people would gain mass and height i would think?  might explain some mutations mentioned.
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Re: Noah's Flood - Fact or Fiction?
« Reply #21 on: April 14, 2012, 02:41:52 pm »
lower gravity, people would gain mass and height i would think?  might explain some mutations mentioned.

And if by the same token, the rotational speed increased...

increased gravity, biological organisms loose mass/height?
Oceans are temporarily "pushed down" causing them to spread out?

So if an asteroid hit Earth, depending upon its direction of impact in relation to Earth's rotation it would cause one of the two?

The change would also affect the tecktonic plates etc...
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Re: Noah's Flood - Fact or Fiction?
« Reply #22 on: April 14, 2012, 02:56:45 pm »
I've experienced a past life memory of Antarctica being green.

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Re: Noah's Flood - Fact or Fiction?
« Reply #23 on: April 14, 2012, 05:54:42 pm »
In the past I have not talked much about my experiences involving contact with other Civilizations
NOT from the Earth for fear of ridicule.

Since I have been invited to Pegasus, I am encouraged by the those here who appear to be
a little more tolerant to the unexpected and those things seen to be a little weird.

Please bear with me and I will explain about "Noah's Flood" as shown and explained by those
NOT of Earth.

I feel it is my responsibility to pass this on to you.

I was shown how on many planets (Billions throughout this program) partake in a similar phenomena
recorded in History on the Earth, involving what is referred to as "Noah's Flood".

I will try and explain this for you, as I was shown regarding events, soon to affect us on the Earth.

You will have no doubt become aware of the increasing numbers and magnitude of earthquakes
around the world, even to the extent of "Fracking"

http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20080731104652AAyAK5k

being blamed for smaller earth quakes, occurring around areas where oil exploration is taking place.

Oil is usually taken from areas around The Earths Trenches or near to them for Economic reasons.

The Earth has a "Thermal Cycle", involving the Changing Temperatures (Globally) over a long period of Time
(Some Thousand year Cycle).

What many don't realize, is the interior of the Earth generates Energy which has to be released.

The Flow of Energy eventually escapes outward, through the Earths crust escaping into space.

The Crust of the Earth, as well as some other Planets, Moons etc. have a similar make up
in their crust, in that it is like the Slag on near molten or molten metal.

The crust being like the Slag is able to move on the Earths Mantle, which is NOT as thick,
as scientist are lead to believe.

The Earth's crust is about 1/4 to 1/2 % of the Earth's Diameter, in thickness.
(Some ares even less.)

The Trenches formed by the Movement of "Plate Activity", allows the Earth
to expand slightly, due to changing temperature within the Earth Interior.

The Changes in the Earth's Crust is small to us, but it reflects the FLOW of Energy
between the Earth's Interior and its Atmosphere, across the Crust Slag like Dialectic.

At present we are approaching a "Node" or "Peak" in the Thermal Cycle where the Change takes place,
referred to in some of the Ancient writings now incorrectly treated as religious writings by many.

Instead of Starting with Noah's FLOOD, which is the other Peak or Node i.e. the other End
of the same "Thermal Cycle", I will start at the "Peak" in the "Thermal Cycle"
which draws nearer to us every passing day.

The Earth is slowly expanding at present, due to the increasing Internal Temperatures.

The reason for this expansion, is due to the Hysteresis produced by the nature of the Earth's crust involving Energy FLOW NOT Temperature.
(Like the Slag on partially Molten metal in a furnace.)

Note; that most of the Earthquakes are around the Pacific basin, involving what is commonly known
as "The Ring of Fire" (but the other trenches will also become involved).
It is just that the "The Ring of Fire" surrounds one of the larger plates, and so the reactions
are greater, associated with this Plate and surrounding smaller plates.

The same phenomena produces our tectonic plate movements, referred to as "Continental Drift".

If we look at the most recent Japan Tsunami, it's Wave front was different from other  Tsunami's
produced by many other Earth Quakes.

This is because this latest Japan Tsunami, was generated by the Japan Trench, Kuril Trench
and branch Trench known as the Izu ATrench)

There was an intake of water due the Opening Trench, noted by the Sea receding first,
along the east coast of Japan.
There was then a vertical displacement recorded, in one of the adjacent Plates, which closed
the Gap again, produced in the Trench, displacing the water back out again,
causing the  Tsunami, whose wave front was more or less linear, rather than in arcs.

As the Earth expands more, at some point Water will propagate into a Trench, which suddenly
opens extending deep enough, for the sea water to cause shrinkage in the associated plates.
(As a result in a drop in Plate temperature in that region.)

This will increase a breach in between the plates in the affected regions, and even
more seawater will gush into the Trench at this location. (Perhaps near Japan or South of Japan)

This Action will increase causing the Crust to shrink and lifting back will allowing sea water to enter
back under the Earth's Crust.

This action is extremely Violent at this point and the Seas disappear in a mater of Hours.

When the Water contacts the Magma the water Explodes into Steam causing more Violent
contraction of the Earth's Crust in All directions, much of the Water is thrown up into
the outer regions of our atmosphere, while most of the Water gushes down through the Trenches
to take its new location under the Earth's Crust, leaving No Seas above the Crust.

Re "The Books of Enoch"; 05 to 08  Quote;

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05.  And all shall be smitten with fear,
And the watchers shall quake,
And great fear and trembling shall seize them
unto the ends of the Earth.

06. And the high mountains shall be shaken,
And the high hills shall be made low,
And shall melt like wax before the flame,

07.  And the Earth shall wholly rent in sunder,
And all that is upon the Earth shall perish,

And there shall be a judgement upon all men.

08.  But with the righteous HE will make peace,
And will protect the elect, And mercy shall be upon them.

And they shall all belong to GOD,
And they shall be prospered,
And they shall all be blessed.

And HE will help them all,

And LIGHT shall appear unto them,
And HE will make peace with them.


Mars in in this stage of its "Thermal Cycle" where the bulk of its water
is now under its (Mars) Crust.

The Same with our Moon. Perhaps Zorgon and John Lear can tell you something about this ?

Biblical verses, regarding this end of "The Thermal Cycle" which is approaching.

"The Revelation of Jesus Christ" Chapter 21 verse 1 Quote;

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1.  Now I saw a new heaven and a new Earth
for the first heaven and the first Earth had passed away

Also there was NO more Sea.


Now at the other End of the "Thermal Cycle" is where "Noah's Flood" occurred.

When the Earth's Crust Shrinks, some of the Plates are suddenly forced upward, and because
the Sea Water Under the crust is under huge pressure, it escapes between the Plates
where the Trenches are.

Re. "Genesis" Chapter 7 verse 11 Quote;

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In the 600th year of Noah's life,
in the second month,
the 7th day of the month, the same day
were All the Fountains of the Great deep
broken up, etc. etc.

and
"Genesis" Chapter 8 verse 2 Quote;

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2.  The Fountains also of the Deep
and the windows of heaven
were stopped.


So the Sea Water changes its Location from under the Earth's Crust,
between the Mantle and the Crust to above the Earth's Crust repeatedly,
resulting from the Earth's continually and Repeating "Thermal Cycle".

Other Civilizations on other Planets, evacuate their planet, too and Return after their Planet
settles down again into a more suitable environment.

They evacuate using their "Transport Interfaces". (in human understanding, then travel forward in time)

The same with Mars; When it settles down again, the Martians  shall return again.

Fortunately many will be evacuated from the Earth, with a little help from our Neighbors
when the time arrives.

It is The Sun which Controls these Changes caused by the thermal cycles taking place in its planets and Moons.

Some involved with remote Viewing report a Solar Flare (This is part of this Phenomena)

Zorgon can tell you more about this event.

There are 2 Features to the Sun;

a.    What our Scientists observe. (Which is an Interactive Holograph)
and
b.    Another Component related to the SHIN. (Involving Processing)

Sadly Science overlooks the Functions of the SHIN as they are NOT even Aware
of the "Processing System" All is made Manifest through.
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Re: Noah's Flood - Fact or Fiction?
« Reply #24 on: April 14, 2012, 07:06:41 pm »
In the past I have not talked much about my experiences involving contact with other Civilizations
NOT from the Earth for fear of ridicule.

Since I have been invited to Pegasus, I am encouraged by the those here who appear to be
a little more tolerant to the unexpected and those things seen to be a little weird.

Please bear with me and I will explain about "Noah's Flood" as shown and explained by those
NOT of Earth.

I feel it is my responsibility to pass this on to you.


notice in that verse from revelation that there's a new heaven too because it also had passed away.  now how does water in the earth's crust, cause the heavens to pass away?  things that make you go, "hmmm." 

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Re: Noah's Flood - Fact or Fiction?
« Reply #25 on: April 14, 2012, 07:24:49 pm »
Hi undo11,

 ;D

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now how does water in the earth's crust, cause the heavens to pass away?

It doesn't ?

Explanation Clearer 4 U ?   :D

The Previous Heaven (Referring to the sky here) is NOT the Same, as in the Later,
the whole Nature of the Atmosphere has Changed, in that the Earth will be surrounded once again
by Moisture in the Upper atmosphere in the form of a Cloud layer.

So can't see the stars anymore...

Hope you understand what I am describing now?    ;D

Re Biblical writings; Many different "Heavens" are Mentioned, and have been confused
by humanity as All though referring to one and the Same Heaven. (Through Ignorance.)

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« Reply #26 on: April 14, 2012, 07:33:33 pm »
Hi undo11,

 ;D

It doesn't ?

Explanation Clearer 4 U ?   :D

The Previous Heaven (Referring to the sky here) is NOT the Same, as in the Later,
the whole Nature of the Atmosphere has Changed, in that the Earth will be surrounded once again
by Moisture in the Upper atmosphere in the form of a Cloud layer.

So can't see the stars anymore...

Hope you understand what I am describing now?    ;D

Re Biblical writings; Many different "Heavens" are Mentioned, and have been confused
by humanity as All though referring to one and the Same Heaven. (Through Ignorance.)

oh there's 2 heavens, the starry firmanent and planets, and the other is a "place" suggested to be other dimensional, if you will.  never heard of the air around the planet being called heaven before.  can you document that for me?  i always like to read this kind of thing
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Re: Noah's Flood - Fact or Fiction?
« Reply #27 on: April 14, 2012, 07:52:17 pm »
Hi undo11,

 ;D

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never heard of the air around the planet being called heaven before.
can you document that for me?  i always like to read this kind of thing

Actually there are more than 2 Heavens....  :D

Re. The Books of E'NOCH.

In fact many Heavens; Apart from the Billions in the "Processing System" which presents
your Experience to you.

These are the Processing Layers... or known as the "Faces" within the Plane where "The True Mind" resides.

Here is an Abstract Animation of the said Plane and its "Faces".



For more on The "Processing System" of The Mind..... (NO Religion or Philosophy)

http://www.thelivingmoon.com/forum/index.php?board=112.0

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Re: Noah's Flood - Fact or Fiction?
« Reply #28 on: April 14, 2012, 07:53:51 pm »
oh that looks like a gate.
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Re: Noah's Flood - Fact or Fiction?
« Reply #29 on: April 14, 2012, 07:56:21 pm »
Hi undo11

Indeed you are now On Track...    8)   ;D

But you know much about these don't yoiu ???   :D

 


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