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Offline Sgt.Rocknroll

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Re: Mandalay: The biggest shooting since Columbine.
« Reply #45 on: October 05, 2017, 05:47:32 AM »
I have a hard time believing that this did not happen.  I know a couple people that were there and are really messed up now with shock.

In my opinion, not everything that happens has to be a false flag.  There are wackos in this world that go postal once in a while.

This is no Sandy Hook in my opinion.

Gave ya Gold for that one Micjer...
Just a well planned attack by a nutcase...
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Re: Mandalay: The biggest shooting since Columbine.
« Reply #46 on: October 05, 2017, 06:15:48 AM »
I stayed in the corner suite of a different floor last year.  Same corner as where all of this happened.  The suite had four large windows, each covered with heavy floor length drapes and sheers.  Two windows in the main area, and one in each bedroom.  The draperies are opened and closed by wall switch.  There are no balconies.  The suites offer a really good view of the strip.

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Re: Mandalay: The biggest shooting since Columbine.
« Reply #47 on: October 05, 2017, 06:28:36 AM »
The greatest mass murder in US history was at Wounded Knee - in which the US army murdered Indians when it tried to take away their guns.

Another proof that the mass media can't be trusted.  Native American lives aren't counted and some of my skepticism about 'institutional racism' just went away.

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Re: Mandalay: The biggest shooting since Columbine.
« Reply #48 on: October 05, 2017, 10:31:10 AM »
this may have been the guy mentioned earlier  who was told to wait for the swat guys.


http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/jesus-campos-las-vegas-shooter_us_59d5c607e4b0cde45872e30e?ncid=inblnkushpmg00000009
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10/05/2017 08:38 am ET
Unarmed Hotel Security Guard Who Found Las Vegas Shooter Hailed As Hero
Jesus Campos, wounded in a barrage of gunfire, said he was “just doing” his job.

An unarmed security guard at the Mandalay Bay Resort and Casino was hailed as a hero for pinpointing the Las Vegas shooter’s location, despite a withering barrage of gunfire that wounded him in the leg.

Jesus Campos was on random patrol inside the hotel when the gunman opened fire Sunday on thousands of people gathered at the Route 91 Harvest Festival with modified assault weapons. According to The Daily Beast, Campos tracked the sound of gunshots to the 32nd floor and tried to open the door of the suite where the gunman was barricaded. The killer, who had set up security cameras outside the room, fired a furious barrage of bullets into the hallway, wounding the guard.

Campos was responsible for helping authorities nail down the gunman’s exact location in the massive casino-hotel complex, Clark County Sheriff Joseph Lombardo said Wednesday.

“It was the security guard,” Lombardo said during a news conference. He said the gunman fired “well over 200 rounds straight into the hallway” after a peephole camera showed Campos and police officers who responded to his discovery of the location.

“It is amazing that the security guard didn’t sustain additional injuries,” Lombardo said. “His bravery was amazing because he remained with our officers, providing them the key pass to access the door and actually continued to help them clear rooms until our officers demanded that he go seek medical attention.”

Police eventually blew open the door and found the killer dead from a self-inflicted gunshot wound.

Dave Hickey, president of the security labor union that represents Campos and hundreds of guards at the Mandalay Bay, told The Daily Beast a bullet in the guard’s leg will be removed in surgery at a later date.

Campos, reached by ABC News, said he was “just doing my job” and was “fine” after the drama.

“I’m telling you that I don’t think that our officers are recognized enough for the valuable role that they play in protecting property, people and even the nation,” Hickey told The Daily Beast.

Nearly 60 people were killed in the attack on Sunday night and about 500 were injured. Investigators are still trying to piece together the gunman’s motive.

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Re: Mandalay: The biggest shooting since Columbine.
« Reply #49 on: October 05, 2017, 10:34:11 AM »
They were on Monday morning (Portuguese time). I sent him a message and he told me they were all OK.

Thanks mate!

Although I don't really expect either of them to be attending a country music festival... I have no idea if any of their family's may have been involved and that was what worried me.

Thanks again for answering my Q Ara  :)  It wont help all the victim's, but it help's me in knowing that the people I know who live in Vegas are ok.

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Re: Mandalay: The biggest shooting since Columbine.
« Reply #50 on: October 05, 2017, 11:03:19 AM »
It's time's like this tragedy I'm glad it's hard to find what happened to certain technology.

Imagine what would have happened if Metal Storm got out into the Nut-Case world???


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Re: Mandalay: The biggest shooting since Columbine.
« Reply #51 on: October 05, 2017, 12:01:36 PM »
http://www.rense.com/general96/paddockblood.html

Very graphic (warning).  The scene looks staged.

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Re: Mandalay: The biggest shooting since Columbine.
« Reply #52 on: October 05, 2017, 12:13:57 PM »
http://www.rense.com/general96/paddockblood.html

Very graphic (warning).  The scene looks staged.
The blood and the shell casings? Why?

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Re: Mandalay: The biggest shooting since Columbine.
« Reply #53 on: October 05, 2017, 12:20:18 PM »
suicide gun appears to be a distance away from hand.   Spent cartridges appear to be on top of blood rather than blood on top of cartridges.

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Re: Mandalay: The biggest shooting since Columbine.
« Reply #54 on: October 05, 2017, 12:40:14 PM »
Not know in what position he was when he shot himself I cannot have any idea of what could have happened to the gun. Also, if I'm not mistaken, if he still had the gun in his hand the standard practice would be to kick it out of his hand before confirming if he was dead or not.

Flowing blood (or any other fluid) would get under the cartridges.

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Re: Mandalay: The biggest shooting since Columbine.
« Reply #55 on: October 06, 2017, 09:22:16 AM »
Is there a solution to gun control that requires no change to the Constitution?

First, make some allowance for private defense but not private arsenals as the right to bear arms is sustained thereby.

Second, create militias at the state/county level - which would allow controlled use of military level weapons at approved gun ranges in exchange for volunteer membership in local fire protection, border patrols or auxiliary police, including office work.  Irresponsible people get booted out while others get their Rambo impulses fulfilled.  Under the 10th Amendment, no commandeering of local militias is allowed - consistent with Founding Father's being against standing armies. Thus, 'a well regulated militia'.

It seems to me that you could do this by using the simple language of the 2nd Amendment and also be consistent with its history, while reducing gun violence.

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Re: Mandalay: The biggest shooting since Columbine.
« Reply #56 on: October 06, 2017, 12:31:12 PM »
Yes.  Shooting the people who want it. 8)

lolol...good one Petrus4....

to answer the question,,,,no because there will always be CRAZY PEOPLE!!!!!....

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Re: Mandalay: The biggest shooting since Columbine.
« Reply #57 on: October 06, 2017, 02:31:34 PM »
8thman, you seem to overlook the fact that 99% of crimes commited with firearms are not by law abiding citizens, or with lawfully purchased firearms

there is too much hype and bs out there; that one casing Jeff Rense is having a cow about could have been inadvertently kicked into the blood pool

and by the way, it is SOP to move any firearm away from the perp, even if they appear to be clearly dead...

I have a Glock model 32 on my side whenever I walk out my door; I also have a backup pistol and a CCP in my wallet; tis better to have it and not need it...
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Re: Mandalay: The biggest shooting since Columbine.
« Reply #58 on: October 06, 2017, 07:12:27 PM »
Agitation for gun grabbing is a permanent feature of US politics. What I suggest is a way to save our rights without further injury to the Constitution.

If police tampered with the crime scene as you claim, it would be good to hear it.  There should be huge numbers of spent cartridges laying around.  Of any place on Planet Earth, Vegas hotels must be loaded with video cameras and recordings - are they available?  Paul Craig Rogers has the best blog on this tragedy - we will never know exactly what happened but the narrative presented doesn't make sense.  Imagine a work of fiction with lots of pages torn out and you've got it.

Does anyone realize What Might Yet Happen with this? There is no established motive but rumors are emerging that there are links with ISIS and/or CIA and/or Antifa.  Tag one of them and this becomes a pivotal event in history with an aftermath similar to 9/11. 

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Re: Mandalay: The biggest shooting since Columbine.
« Reply #59 on: October 06, 2017, 08:12:35 PM »
Sounds pretty ridiculous.
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