The Enigmas on Mars 29
17-5-2008 @ 06:19 AM
aka iammonkey at AboveTopSecret.com
Join the discussion on this image in this thread at ATS
|On the 7th of May, 2008 I decided to
look over a few
NASA photos that I had saved. My intention was to find
a few skulls and
other odd shaped rocks. Instead, I found myself
looking at what appeared
to be an Egyptian statue carved into the face of
Victoria craterís Cape
St Vincent. I sat on it for just over a week, not
being sure weather to
post it or not. The reason I eventually did is that
this statue has a smooth
surface, unlike its surroundings that are ruff. Just
like the ones in Egypt.
Of all the rocks, I have found in the past, this one
gave me a head spin...
Hereís the link to the original.
The reason it stood out for me, is because it reminds me of the statues in Egypt. If you look above, below and on each side of the statue looking figure. You will notice the rock has a rough surface. While the figure is a lot smoother. Any way here it is.
|Originally posted by internos, posted
@ 07:09 AM Post
This is PIA10210
Original Caption Released with Image:
NASA's Mars Exploration Rover Opportunity rover spent about 300 sols (Martian days) during 2006 and 2007 traversing the rim of Victoria Crater. Besides looking for a good place to enter the crater, the rover obtained images of rock outcrops exposed at several cliffs along the way.
The cliff in this image from Opportunity's panoramic camera (Pancam) is informally named Cape St. Vincent. It is a promontory approximately 12 meters (39 feet) tall on the northern rim of Victoria crater, near the farthest point along the rover's traverse around the rim. Layers seen in Cape St. Vincent have proven to be among the best examples of meter scale cross-bedding observed on Mars to date. Cross-bedding is a geologic term for rock layers which are inclined relative to the horizontal and which are indicative of ancient sand dune deposits.
In order to get a better look at these outcrops, Pancam "super-resolution" imaging techniques were utilized. Super-resolution is a type of imaging mode which acquires many pictures of the same target to reconstruct a digital image at a higher resolution than is native to the camera. These super-resolution images have allowed scientists to discern that the rocks at Victoria Crater once represented a large dune field, not unlike the Sahara desert on Earth, and that this dune field migrated with an ancient wind flowing from the north to the south across the region. Other rover chemical and mineral measurements have shown that many of the ancient sand dunes studied in Meridiani Planum were modified by surface and subsurface liquid water long ago.
This is a Mars Exploration Rover Opportunity Panoramic Camera image acquired on [b]sol 1167[/b] (May 7, 2007), and was constructed from a mathematical combination of 16 different blue filter (480 nm) images.
Color Version Normal Resolution
No luck yet finding the original color image of the super resolution version but I wrote a letter requesting info on that. As soon as I hear back I will post it...IF it is available
|Originally posted by mikesingh posted
@ 03:04 AM Post
As regards the image with that 'statue', it is undoubtedly extremely remarkable. Excellent find. Starred and Flagged!
Some have mentioned that it canít be a statue as there is a squarish block under the Ďfaceí. So? In art one does not need to accurately depict a figure with a chest, hands etc. It could be symbolic with the attention being paid only to the face.
As Zorgon had pointed out, why would NASA enhance the resolution of this image if they did not want to check out the details? They have, and that in itself is intriguing!
And of course, we have those unending proclamations and lectures by some that these are nothing but a case of pareidolia and seeing bunnies in the clouds! Thank you!
OK, here's an enlargement of that 'statue' which I have Ďbrushedí up a little, reducing noise and enhancing the dark and light areas. Though it's been hauled through a few filters, the result is pretty fascinating all the same! Notice also how it has been recessed into what looks like a geometrically carved cavity! Are we seeing the vestiges of a long gone civilization? We'll probably never know until we get our boots out there!
However, the issue can be put to rest if we could get hold of hi-res images of the same area but from a different angle. Iím sure internos and ArMaP are on it already!
Keep looking. The truth is out there!
|Originally posted by iammonkey posted
@ 07:23 AM Post
Reply to post by gottago
Hi gottago. I can understand
the point your making.
But Iím going to beg to differ. I donít think of
mars as in ďI believe
civilization is still there.Ē Rather there
was. When I see things
like this on mars, I think of a civilization that
once was. But long gone
as regards to road and plaza you wonít find roads
and plaza around the
Easter Island statues. The're in the middle of
nowhere. For all we know
there could be more around the other side. Or on
other rock faces, we havenít
looked at yet. As regards to the lines crossing
certain parts of the face.
It does not in my opinion dismiss it as a statue.
Example below (right).
Also the Cube shape (left) that is similar to the
one on Mars body wise.
However, I do appreciate your interest and input
just as much as every
Originally posted by iammonkey posted on 18-5-2008 @ 07:40 AM Post ID: 4353901
There are statues around the world big and small that stand alone. Yes I know people would want more statues surrounding this one. I know I would. As regard the Mars connection, well I donít believe in coincidences. We had the face on Mars, that some say resembles one in Egypt, the whole Cydonia thing, this picture, and let's not for get the pyramids.
|Originally posted by ziggystar60
posted on 18-5-2008
@ 04:06 PM Post
Reply to post by ArMaP
Hi, ArMaP, I am very interested in
your thoughts about
the feature in the biggest red circle in this part
of the Mars image. I
don't think anyone has commented on this specific
|Originally posted by iammonkey posted
@ 03:19 AM Post
Reply to post by Parabol
Parabol what you said has forced me. Yes FORCED me to crack open another bottle of baileys and start on a family size bar of chocolate. Hope you feel guilty.:lol:
Seriously though, you say its
plainly a rock. I donít
doubt that. But to me itís a carved rock. And I
think thatís why the thread
has continued. (with the help of your post. Thanks
for the bump.) No one
has proved, or disproved this is just a rock.
Although Vanitas has given
me food for thought as well as ArMaP. Therefore, Iím
still open to other
Now about lunica post. Showing the
scale of things.
As I said before, can we trust the information from
NASA in regards to
size? But for argument sake lets say there telling
the truth. And it is
very small. I donít see that as a good reason
to dismiss it out right.
Look at the size of these.
As regards the amount of time spent. I really donít have that much to spare. Some people play golf, read a book. I enjoy looking at Mars pictures. People already see us conspiracist as loonies. If threads on this site solely depended on evidence, there wouldnít be many threads.
Many theories - including conspiracy theories - rely on the assumption of rational expectations. Under this assumption, events and decisions are explained by the rational responses of groups and individuals.
(I wasnít going to add the next bit because I just know their talking about me.)
For relatively rare individuals, an obsessive compulsion to believe, prove or re-tell a conspiracy theory may indicate one or more of several well-understood psychological conditions, and other hypothetical ones: paranoia, denial, schizophrenia, mean world syndrome.
Paralol if you want to stay sane do not read any further. No hard feelings. All the best iammonkey.
Originally posted by iammonkey posted on 27-5-2008 @ 03:30 AM Post ID: 4392142
posted by zarlaan
Well done for pointing that out.
From just about every picture I've seen the rock around the sculpture is pushed/carved back to bring the sculpture 'out' of the canvas. But, what we see here in this Martian picture is a "sculpture" that appears to be just the opposite..
With the exception of Buddha.
So if we are measuring only the promontary itself from top edge to base, not to the base of the crater floor... the yellow would be more correct... Unfortunately NASA is not clear on this
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